Three Wolf Moon [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Give it to Populus Romanus.

If the implication is, Pizza, Memnon, Johhog, and Populus are all mafia, that's an interesting one since I just self-pwned.

If you toss out that implication, then Populus should get the shirt since he's scanned town.

[Montmorency]

I want that shirt too, brother.

Vote: Montmoremcy

Perhaps we can make an arrangement? I get the shirt today, and I'll vote it to you tomorrow.

[Montmorency]

It could work. The three kill you, you scan one of them, and they clear three for the price of one.

[Tratorix]

I want that shirt too, brother.

Vote: Montmoremcy

Perhaps we can make an arrangement? I get the shirt today, and I'll vote it to you tomorrow.

Why should we give the shirt to someone who can't spell his own name?

[Montmorency]

OKAY

Vote: Montmorency

[Believer]

Vote: Montmorency

Same reasoning.

Vote: Populus Romanus

[Askthepizzaguy]

OKAY

Vote: Montmorency

You have to unvote Montmoremcy before you can vote Montmorency.

[Montmorency]

Bollox, the first vote was invalid.

If I Vote: ATPG, I won't have to unvote when I place a real vote later.

Anyway, have it your way. Unvote; Vote: Populus Romanus.

If the guy he scans turns up Mafia, then will you consider it?

[B-Wing]

Vote: Populus Romanus seems safe enough. I don't think he'd have done something quite as scummy as changing his name if he were actually scum.

Vote: Yaropolk for lurking. Will you flinch for me?

[Montmorency]

Vote: Warman

Isn't he usually active?

[Memnon]

I'll do my usual, which is Vote:WarmanCrazyName, and I'll also point out that I am town! Yippee! Although unfortunate that the one who stirred up the game and made it more interesting is dead... Requiescat in Pace, Pizza.(4 years of Latin!)
I'll also Vote: Populus Romanus, because that just makes sense

[Zack]

Just so you know, I'm fine (and would actually prefer) just calling [insert his ridiculous name here] "Warman".

[Double A]

I'm not exactly a veteran here (yet), but my feeling is that when new players act scummy, it's because they're - well - new. Has there ever even been a precedent for a first-timer being Mafia?

Johhog claims to be experienced though.

In my first game, I was a vig, and NK'd 2/3 of the mafia by D3. If Pizza weren't so dead sexy, I would have gotten him on N3.

Tee hee. Scum.

Three words. Scum!

@ Zack

Replace the inactives please? :P

@ Monty

The campground was a great game without death reveals.

Revive me!

Alternatively, since Pizza didn't die till he took the shirt off, maybe yall could vote it to stick it on me, I'd come back alive for a night, investigate jht, and then keel back over. I would be avenging my own death! (probably) (maybe) (kinda) (not really)

[Memnon]

Just so you know, I'm fine (and would actually prefer) just calling [insert his ridiculous name here] "Warman".

Yeah, I know,, just poking a little fun, sorry if it's confusing.

[Yaropolk]

Vote: Populus Romanus seems safe enough. I don't think he'd have done something quite as scummy as changing his name if he were actually scum.

Vote: Yaropolk for lurking. Will you flinch for me?

Totally

Vote: Yaropolk

Vote: Yaropolk

[Montmorency]

Isn't that like a textbook scumtell?

[Yaropolk]

Probably - you should give me the Shirt as a consolation prize.

[Montmorency]

What is a year, really?

[Populus Romanus]

vote: Populus Romanus I missed my chance at the shirt cause I was gone, now I want it back!

[Askthepizzaguy]

I just thought of something.

Your mileage may vary, but my murder proves I'm townie, and my scan proves three people are townies.

Which means I managed to not get lynched based on nonsense this time. Just barely, and it was mind-numbing how close it was.

Now let's see:

bestrfcplayer- probably gonna be replaced and stuff
Johhog -- Scanned Town (N1)
Memnon -- Scanned Town (N3)
Populus Romanus -- Scanned Town (N2)

So who does that leave....

B_Ray
Believer
Ishmael
johnhughthom
Montmorency
Seamus Fermanagh
Tratorix
Yaropolk
Warman


And what do I see:

TALLY:

Johhog: 2 (JHT, Tratorix)
ATPG: 2 (B_Ray, Ishmael)

Memnon: 1 (ATPG)
Montmorency: 1 (Believer)
Warman: 1 (Memnon)
Abstain: 0
Not Voting: 6 (bestrfcplayer, Montmorency, Populus Romanus, Seamus Fermanagh, Yaropolk, Warman)
bestrfcplayer will be replaced if he doesn't vote next Day Phase.


SHIRT TALLY:
ATPG: 7 (ATPG, Believer, Ishmael, Johhog, JHT, Montmorency, Tratorix)

Seamus: 1 (B_Ray)
Montmorency: 1 (Memnon)
Not Voting: 5 (bestrfcplayer, Populus Romanus, Seamus Fermanagh, Yaropolk, Warman)

Ishmael- voted for me to die, and also gave me the shirt. Makes no sense.
Montmorency- Late on the shirt wagon.
Tratorix- Late on the shirt wagon.
B_Ray- Voted for me to die
Believer- Usual Believer.
johnhughthom- went for Johhog and gave me the shirt rather easily yesterday.
Seamus Fermanagh- Hasn't been posting much.
Yaropolk- Hasn't been posting much.
Warman- Hasn't been posting much.


Now which of these is the scummiest. That's the big question for me anyway.

We have Montmorency and Tratorix openly questioning the results, but not acting upon it, and then voting me the shirt. Then I died. Both now also want the shirt.

Yaropolk wants the shirt and is voting for himself, rather uncharacteristically. Definitely not adding much to the discussion.

Ishmael's move makes no sense whatsoever. But it also makes no sense whatsoever from a scumbag, I think.... it neither clears him nor condemns him.

Johnhughthom feels a bit conciliatory towards me.

But really, I think I know which one takes the cake.

Vote: TheLastDays

"I didn't get a PM" posts are a ploy as old as the hills and should be discouraged. Populous, you may well be next for the same reason unless another candidate comes along. Nice spoof of this pizza.

Vote: ATPG

He's a fine fellow. Why not?

By the way, B Ray, you were supposed to vote for me to get the shirt since I am "lengendary," not vote to lynch me. Naughty, naughty.....

Fortunately, we are all aware that "legendary" is only one little step up from "fictional." Any heroic character I possess is of the Flashman variety.

Voted to lynch someone, I'll assume they're townie for now, just because our luck isn't that good.

Second one to vote me the shirt, possible snuggling attempt. Actually seems to flinch when he gets a vote, and downplays his abilities.

Vote: Johhog, reasons as above.

Vote: Populous as a means of exerting pressure. Thoughts?

Goes along with the shirt wagon, votes for someone who just got scanned as townie, and is second on the Populus wagon.

Voting "no lynch" in the early game feeds right into mafia goals. The mafia wants to be the only ones killing early on so as to minimize the chance of early investigations identifying one. The time for "no lynch" votes, if ever, is in the mid to late game when investigation suspects have been narrowed. Moreover, your assumption of one mid-game lynch in your metric is optimistic in practice. Read over some of Sasaki's comments on the no lynch route.

Populus squirmed enough for now. Unvote: Populus; Vote: Montmorency.

You're just too willing to let the mafia set the pace. Believer too, with his minimal vote support and third on the bandwagon status, also bears some evaluation.

Arguing against the No Lynch, and using not-present "legendary" Sasaki Kojiro's arguments, if they were indeed his arguments, to bolster his point.

No Lynch late in the game reduces the chances of hitting scum, and early lynches increases the chances of lynching townies. It's entirely backward, actually.

That Seamus would go so far as to cite Sasaki to make this argument means he realizes without a credible source other than himself, arguing this point will look extra-scummy.

That means Seamus is worried about looking scummy. Which means he's scum.

Lordy it has been a while. I think they were in one of GH's Mafia renditions 5-7. The issue keeps cropping up from time to time. I put no lynch in Capo because, with all the acitve night actions, it sometimes made more sense to investigate and wait....but capo generally has 20+ investigations going on each night along with all the blood, so the numbers are different. In a bog standard 1 detective, I remember the numbers end up putting more pressure on the mafia, at least in the end game, by lynching to reduce the field early on. Brutal, but ends up working.

This plan relies far too heavily on investigation results we can't even trust, sacrificing our best-odds random lynches in the endgame to make it happen.

I don't trust it, and I don't trust Seamus would make this argument as a townie in this game.

Got to this late on Sunday.

Interesting argument from pizza, and I agree it would be a deliciouslsy devious trick by Zack.

Surprisingly, for me, memnon voted for monty without much support and then when pressured, voted for warman....a second vote for little reason in the same round. Does seem like squirming to me.

I would've vote memnon

Snrubbing me with the "I agree", then smeared some suspicion onto Memnon, who is now cleared.

Of course, Seamus also knew that I'd be scanning Memnon last night, which would make him look like an uninformed townie in the morning when the results came back townie.

This is all very good stuff.

Seamus is interested in early lynches, on townies, without much thought or effort put into those lynches, and is arguing for us to rely on the detective results we can't trust, in the endgame which is going to be approaching soon, and we haven't lynched any scums yet unless they're TheLastDays, and his response to me pointing out the deviously untrustworthy nature of the detective results is to go "interesting argument".

Now, I'd argue here that he hasn't taken much of a stand on anything, but that's wrong. He's taken a very firm stand on early lynches followed by relying on late detective results. And his argument was so scummy, he needed to cite Sasaki Kojiro to make it even sound like a townie would ever advocate such a thing.

Maybe Sasaki would, but he's also the type to insist someone is guilty for no reason after he's dead and demand someone's death. Which isn't particularly pro-town because there's no way to argue with a dead proven townie with no argument. Sasaki tested out many avant garde ideas, not all of them were particularly good, and I think they are especially wrong here.




If I were alive, I'd be voting for Seamus Fermanagh. He's no townie.

[Askthepizzaguy]

But I'm not finished, oh no no no. You see, I can't just give you one name. There's bunches of scums, and I don't want to leave any turns unstoned.

Remember, it could be a red-herring team-kill.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

If Pizza is town: HA, YOU WERE WRONG

Yeah, it's funny.... it's the exact thing I said yesterday about how you couldn't necessarily trust my results because if I were indeed scum, and memnon was scum, and johhog was scum, then we've cleared us.

Thing is, I'm dead.

If Memnon and Johhog continue to survive, and they don't get scanned by others to confirm, don't you think it's gonna be a teensy-weensy bit suspicious? And then that takes down at least two of us. Could it be done? Yes. Could I do it? Yes. Would I kill myself to do it?

Nah.... and if the chain continues, populus Romanus scans another townie, then what? that person scans Memnon or Johhog.

There's not enough mafia scumbags to complete the chain.

It means if player Populus scans goes ahead and scans Memnon or Johhog, and it turns out that player is mafia, then there is no debate, there is no discussion. It means I was mafia for the false scan on memnon, and Memnon was mafia for falsely scanning Johhog.

That means 3 of us die, and I'm already dead, and I just told you how to unravel our evil plans.

Why? Because I have great big giant diamonds, or is it because it's WROOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG?

No, I think you took one for the team, so to speak.

Seriously, if we don't have a killer ID'd by Day 6...

Then that means everyone who was scanned was townie, because I just told you how to confirm Memnon and myself and Johhog.

All you have to do is scan Memnon or Johhog with whoever Populus Romanus scans. It's impossible for the scums to keep up the charade at that point, because A townie would have had to scan A mafia before then, or else Populus Romanus' scanee is going to find mafia for reals, and that scanee is going to be townie as well, since there's not enough scums to complete the chain.

So, you're smearing my good name after I'm dead, by insisting I followed a plan that is extremely absurd and I just destroyed with my own words.

Mmm mmm mmm. I DONT THINK SO...

Well, this has just raised further questions now hasn't it?

Vote: Tratorix Gimme dat shirt.

I want that shirt too, brother.

Vote: Montmoremcy

Perhaps we can make an arrangement? I get the shirt today, and I'll vote it to you tomorrow.

Oooh scummy.

In the words of Fleetwood Mac, never break the chain.

It could work. The three kill you, you scan one of them, and they clear three for the price of one.

Say that a little louder so they can hear you.

Vote: Montmorency

Same reasoning.

Vote: Populus Romanus

Love it. This guy is townie.

Isn't that like a textbook scumtell?

Naw.

This quote, on the other hand, is a textbook scumtell.



Montmorency or Seamus Fermanagh today. Really, either one will do.....



1. Montmorency
2. Seamus Fermanagh

Who else? Come on, I wanna hit em all.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Self vote the shirt, we can?

Vote: Askthepizzaguy

Spoke first in the opening write up, clearly scum.

Dare I bring out the dreaded OMGUS case? Not to mention, you were in the writeup too, my friend.

unvote, vote: Believer

I don't care what random.org said, voting newbies is poor form.

Vote: Memnon

Welcome to mafia at the org, only a few of us are as ill-mannered as that Believer chap.

Snuggling Memnon, and voting for someone I find very townie right at the moment. That's three strikes so far. Let's go for some more.

Is Memnon new? I had no clue. :(

OMGUS will do just as well as random.
Unvote; Vote: JHT

You have done well, my young apprentice. Your hate has made you powerful.

vote: Memnon seems to be the consensus

vote: JHT - I actually really like the choice of JHT

Also, where's my role PM?

Yes.... it was a good choice. What happened then? Did you get lynched? Hmm?

Vote: TheLastDays

"I didn't get a PM" posts are a ploy as old as the hills and should be discouraged. Populous, you may well be next for the same reason unless another candidate comes along. Nice spoof of this pizza.

Vote: ATPG

He's a fine fellow. Why not?

By the way, B Ray, you were supposed to vote for me to get the shirt since I am "lengendary," not vote to lynch me. Naughty, naughty.....

Fortunately, we are all aware that "legendary" is only one little step up from "fictional." Any heroic character I possess is of the Flashman variety.

Right, Seamus drops in and votes for you. Uh-huh.... and he's not in any way scummy.

Maybe because you voted for johnny boy? Hmm?

Huh? my you really don't like bad jokes, do you?

unvote 'twas a joke too

random vote: Montmorency

Batting a thousand, my fellow zombie. Batting a thousand.

vote: Seamus Only his dead sexyness can tame the power of the Three Wolf Moon shirt, which will make it wearable by us mooks at a later date. It is for the good of me everyone!

vote: jht I hear from Bob who heard from Jill who heard from Jane who heard from Vader who heard from Steve who heard from him that he got a PM.

GOSH WHAT HAPPENED TO DOUBLE A?

Who stoled the batteries? Why would Double A die, he's such a harmless bloke!

VOTE: TheLastDays
VOTE: Memnon

I'm just wanting to blend in with the crowd and don't reveal myself as scum.

Nah, but I agree with the view that the "I haven't got a role PM yet OHALP" post was scummy. Furthermore, why did you unvote and then making another random vote?

Memnon can get the shirt. MOAR SHIRTS TO THE CROWD!

Now, Johhog is townie, but what happens when votes pile up on TheLastDays?

Unvote, Vote: TLD

It's not a great case, but it's better than letting myself get lynched.

Oh squirmy.

It's a very bad case but I'll volunteer as the first day lynch since JHT was killed N1 in my last game. unvote, vote: TLD

No, TheLastDays. You should not have rushed to face Vader.... incomplete was your training.

Fallen, the shroud of the dark side, has.

I will oblige.

Unvote, Vote: TLD

Your sacrifice will be in vain. Your death shall be forgotten.

Go gentle. Go soft.

LOOKIE WHO IT IS!

Guess Seamus and Montmorency dinn't want Johnny to die, eh? eh? EH???




And so it ends.

TALLY:

TLD: 6 (Johhog, JHT, Montmorency, Seamus, TLD, Warman)

JHT: 2 (Believer, Double A)

Ishmael: 1 (ATPG)
Seamus: 1 (B_Ray)
ATPG: 1 (Ishmael)
Warman: 1 (Populus Romanus)
B_Ray: 1 (Tratorix)

Abstain: 1 (Memnon)

Not Voting: 3 (bestrfcplayer, Seon, Yaropolk)

Believer, Johhog, Memnon, Populus Romanus, myself, and Double A be townies.

Monty, Seamus, and Johnhughthom be guilty.



1. Montmorency
2. Johnhughthom
3. Seamus Fermanagh



Moar boar wants moar!

[Ishmael]

Well, seeing as I suggested him earlier I may as well honour the wishes of the dead and

vote: Seamus Fermanagh

And because it's the logical choice:

vote: Populus Romanus

EDIT: Pizza, now I see how you got that obscenely high post count . On a completely unrelated tangent, the Org really needs a 'chuckling gently' smiley as well as the 'laughing maniacally' one - there's no middle ground between that and the one I used here, which means I have to convey my tone by writing intelligibly instead of spamming emoticons; obviously a terrible scenario.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Is there a number four candidate? Help me looks.

[Johhog]

Sorry guys, but I'm tired and won't give any reasoning until tonight. I pretty much agree with ATPG however.
VOTE: Seamus Fermanagh
VOTE: PopulusRomanus
Investigate Montmorency tonight, please.

[johnhughthom]

Vote: Seamus

Vote: PoopyRoman

Yes Pizza, you need to get that fourth candidate. That will be half the players you'll have said are mafia, you've a great chance at being right with some of them and saying "See, see everybody, I was right. I'm Askthepizzaguy and I'm awesome." And stuff.

So, would WIFOM be an acceptable defence to you right now? Kinda, I wouldn't kill you if mafia and stuff like that. No? Okay.

Why are you so focused on four mafia?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Askthepizzaguy: I know there is much we can learn from each other if we can negotiate a truce. We can find a way to coexist. Can there be a peace between us?

Hint: It's exactly-who-you-think-it-is' alphabetical precedent.

Montmorency: Peeeeeacccce....... No peeeeeeaccce....


Askthepizzaguy: What is it you want us to do?


Montmorency: Dieeeeee....... Di-i-i-i-i-i-i-i-eeeeee.......

Yes, Askthepizzaguy should be your first target, he's hasn't been targeted in the first night of any game in ever. In ever.

Congrats on not hitting me N1. Funny, I even asked for it this time.

Alright, I've decided that I'm not going to type out Warman's ridiculous name, I will continue to refer to him as Warman. Since I don't really want to type out Populous Romanus either though, I will refer to him as Pop Rocks.

Vote: Pop Rocks for confusing me.

That's a very lame case.

Vote: Johhog, reasons as above.

Vote: Populous as a means of exerting pressure. Thoughts?

I think you're scum!

Really not liking this bandwagon, especially Believer and Montmorency. Believer especially seems to have just jumped on both popular votes, not to mention he's third on the bandwagon. But then Monty comes along with an even weaker vote.

Unvote: PR, Vote: Montmorency

Ooh hold the telly. What's all this then?

No lynch is better for town. It gives us time to identify everyone. Of course, it's not good for the backlog of Mafia games. I just realized that recently.

What did I say in Swords and D20's III. Anyone here remember? What did I say?

And was I scum for saying it? Yeeeep.

No lynches are lame!

I'm guilty. Lynch me.

No lynches are lame. Wanna know why?

• Nearly killed John D1
• Nearly killed Montmorency D2

That's why.

Voting "no lynch" in the early game feeds right into mafia goals. The mafia wants to be the only ones killing early on so as to minimize the chance of early investigations identifying one. The time for "no lynch" votes, if ever, is in the mid to late game when investigation suspects have been narrowed. Moreover, your assumption of one mid-game lynch in your metric is optimistic in practice. Read over some of Sasaki's comments on the no lynch route.

Populus squirmed enough for now. Unvote: Populus; Vote: Montmorency.

You're just too willing to let the mafia set the pace. Believer too, with his minimal vote support and third on the bandwagon status, also bears some evaluation.

Here we go, call some bluffs.

unvote, vote: Montmorency

I'm doing the lazy strategy this time because I'm still disappoint.

Scan me tonight.

Monty wagon!!!

Meh. B_Ray. Haven't really been following up on this game so.........

Seems completely uninterested in the pressure on Monty.

Alright then, now that's clarified I'll

vote: Johhog

And, on a hunch (read: random guess as nobody has made a decent case yet)

vote: Seamus Fermanagh

Me likey.

I think I will vote Ishmael because his hesitant play-it-safe attitude seems unfitting for a townie.

Interesting. And Seon was murdered promptly thereafter?

Maybe to frame Ishmael? After all, we already killed guy voting for Johnhughthom. Now we can't keep killing folks that vote for us, that would be rather obvious.



And what happens next? Vote was tied. By whom?

I'm not going to hunt through several thousand posts for this, so I'll take your word for it.

Unvote; Vote: PopulusRomanus

I thought we'd at least compromised on "better for mid-to-late game."

But but but but what happened to No Lynch?

Oh yeah, tying the vote makes it a No Lynch.

So, no consistent policy except to self-save. And he's voting to lynch a person who got scanned as a townie.

AND he's panicking! Oh I love it.

And Johhog has a good target.

Do I detect the sweet smell of perfect information syndrome and distancing, the heady mix of herbs and spices that leads me to believe you're both scum?

Yes, yes I do.

We are now honor-bound to defend each other to the death. We share a bond deeper than that known by any other men.

Snuggling the dude you tried to kill? Feeling rather exposed, aren't ya?

Indeed I have, but not who you think...

So Johhog thinks that it is Populus Romanus who was scum in that equation.

Well, close. But I'm not the one who's so far away.




Johhog scans Populus Romanus and finds him townie.

He nearly had Montmorency, and John's distancing would have made him look good. Not to me, but you know, to like people who would believe it and junk.

http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showt...8#post10167408

jht needs to be investigated eventually.

GREAT IDEA.

Can't leta guy have a bit of fun, eh? I wasn't particularly serious about the No Lynch campaign, it came about by accident yesterday. I just noted that if patience and the Mafia schedule/calendar were not issues, we would be better off not lynching for a while.

But a veteran did say No Lynches were useful near the endgame, so we'll see when we get there.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Hear that, scum? MURDER ME AND IT STOPS

ROFLCOPTER!!!

WASN'T SERIOUS ABOUT THE NO LYNCH CAMPAIGN???? You argued harder for that than anything else this whole game.

LYNCH THIS SCUMBAG.

No death reveals, hadn't noticed that.

Vote: ATPG

A chance to discredit Memnon, Johhog, and Populus Romanus?

Sign me up, says scum John.

What do you think happens when scum get the shirt?

Vote: Johhog

For now.

Or you could lynch THIS scumbag.

That's what I'm saying. If you three are innocent, and Pizza is Mafia, then you will all (presumably) come up as Mafia.

I just don't know. Suggesting that I get the shirt here would be laughable, but I guess I will try.

Vote: Montmorency

Take a chance on me? :/

And that hurricane tweren't even a thang, the tornado did loads more damage.

You REALLY want that shirt, dontcha?

Don't you wish your buddies had a shirt like this?

holy crap, tl;dr

OK, since ATPVolcano has erupted from its dormant state, would someone be willing to summarize the new strategy? It obviously involves lynching Johhog, but why are we all giving ATPG the Sacred Shirt?

Oh, B_ray.... you were doing so well.

Tsk tsk tsk.

You like the bad idea I had, but HATE the good idea I had? Such a shame.

I'm sane, Pizza? How nice of you to say so.

There's a problem here though. If you are town, then why would you have a huge, flailing seizure as soon as someone votes you? And of course that would just lead to more votes on you, I mean, come on. Of course, maybe you do just have genuine anger management issues, so eh.

If you really are Mafia, then this situation would be perfect. You check Memnon, he turns up Mafia, and we waste three lynches. Mafia wins.

And you know what? Better to waste one lynch than 3. I'm not going to vote you for anything. I recommend everyone else do the same. Can we find another good shirt candidate, someone besides Pizza?

Unvote: Populus Romanus

This is the scummiest post yet in the game.
You do remember that it is the host that reveals the result of the lynch, not the player himself? So there is no way for mafia to fudge up who's guilty. You deserve this lynch.

Unvote; Abstain
Vote: Montmorency

Holy poop, Believer is ON FIRE!!!

And I noted that if Pizza is Mafia, his scan of Memnon would likely mark him as Mafia. This would end in the town wasting 3 lynches on Memnon, Johhog, and Populus. Which would cost town the game.

Monty HATES me scanning Memnon. I love his unrealistic scare tactic "This would end in the town wasting 3 lynches" because obviously townies never change their minds over the course of three rounds?

Can't even keep their minds in one spot on ONE round.



What happens next? My unvote of Johhog actually spares Johhog

Johhog: 2 (JHT, Tratorix)
ATPG: 2 (B_Ray, Ishmael)


Memnon: 1 (ATPG)
Montmorency: 1 (Believer)
Warman: 1 (Memnon)

Abstain: 0

Not Voting: 6 (bestrfcplayer, Montmorency, Populus Romanus, Seamus Fermanagh, Yaropolk, Warman)

You're welcome, Joh!

Sadly, I should have followed Believer.

Look who was voting for you, Johhog. Johnhughthom and Tratorix. At least one of those is a dirty scumbag.



So no lynch, and what happens next?

So you were scum, Pizzaboy!

Re-he-he-he-he-he-eeeally?

Got to this late on Sunday.

Interesting argument from pizza, and I agree it would be a deliciouslsy devious trick by Zack.

Surprisingly, for me, memnon voted for monty without much support and then when pressured, voted for warman....a second vote for little reason in the same round. Does seem like squirming to me.

I would've vote memnon

Really Seamus?

Monty looks scummier than Memnon during that exchange.




So anyways.

1. Montmorency
2. Johnhughthom
3. Seamus Fermanagh or B_Ray

Yes Pizza, you need to get that fourth candidate. That will be half the players you'll have said are mafia, you've a great chance at being right with some of them and saying "See, see everybody, I was right. I'm Askthepizzaguy and I'm awesome." And stuff.

So, would WIFOM be an acceptable defence to you right now? Kinda, I wouldn't kill you if mafia and stuff like that. No? Okay.

Why are you so focused on four mafia?

How about we lynch Montmorency before Seamus Fermanagh? I'm more sure on him, or Johnhughthom.

Seamus could just be my coincidentally looks like a scumbag townie in between two scumbags.

And John, this is possibly the single scummiest post I've ever seen, anywhere, ever, ever, ever, ever.


I bet you 1,000 pizzaguy points that John is scum with Montmorency.

Less sure on Seamus.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Just to reiterate, I'm much much more sure on John and Monty than I am on Seamus.

Scan Seamus, kill Monty or John.

[Ishmael]

I do buy your logic, although it obviously isn't 100% conclusive, but I'm also voting Seamus for selfish reasons - if he turns out to be scum and I'm talked out of lynching him, I'll feel terribly embarrassed after the game is over (I'm looking at you, Visorslash).

[Johhog]

Oh well, I'll blindly follow ATPG just to stand there like an idiot if he's wrong.
UNVOTE: Seamus Fermanagh
VOTE: Montmorency
Scan Seamus then and if all goes as planned we lynch JHT tomorrow?