[EB MP]3.0 Thread - Testing and Updates

[TheShakAttack]

Herodotus is a problem, but he is also one of the only glimpses we have into the non-Greek world before Xenophon shows up. I wouldn't believe all that much that he says as he is prone to exaggeration and is not a first hand observer much of the time, however there are likely grains of truth in just about everything he says, we just have to sift through and pick out the facts from the fiction.

We all know the line that Persians are taught three things from youth: to shoot a bow, to ride a horse, and to speak the truth. Well this probably applies only to the Persian nobility first off as most people would not own horses. As such, it is not necessarily true that the general levy (i.e. Persian Archers/Archer Spearmen) would be trained in using the bow any more than a western levy of Celtic Archers. Obviously there was a tradition of archery in Persia that did not exist in the West so bows were a more prevalent weapon in warfare, therefore the Persians come in larger sizes. Also, they had access to superior bows and therefore they have better range. However, it does not necessarily make them any more accurate with that weapon as individuals.

The Heavy Persian Archers may be a more professional fighting force though I am unsure of this and would defer to others. However, they are already represented as such in game so no problems there.

Sorry for double post. This is a very good post and I would agree with this with the exception of 1 point.

1) I think the levy persian archer accuracy should basically be a bit better than celtic levy archer accuracy. It's like how gaul and germania raises decent quality melee troops as levy. These melee levy troops, would not be able to beat the more expensive persian infantry (like babylonian spearmen), but, they provide decent stats for their cost compared to other factions.

Secondly, it was my understanding that stats were based on weapons used, and in the case of archers, this would attack and range. In this, I would imagine the persians levy unit would have good stats. I am not saying they do not already as I have not looked at them in any detail. I will do so and get back to you guys.

Lastly, I think this is a good point and is imp that it gets highlighted:

"The Heavy Persian Archers may be a more professional fighting force though I am unsure of this and would defer to others. However, they are already represented as such in game so no problems there"

I feel their bows are pretty sucky (range and attack).