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    I think you are getting the underlined sentence wrong.I can speak from personal experience as one of my parent´s is an alcoholic to the point that it has completely destroyed her life. The situation you describe does hurt others. In ths case us being her family. So it is your interpration of my words that is wrong one, not my words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kagemusha View Post
    I think you are getting the underlined sentence wrong.I can speak from personal experience as one of my parent´s is an alcoholic to the point that it has completely destroyed her life.
    I'm sorry. I have a loved one who has experienced the same thing.

    The situation you describe does hurt others. In ths case us being her family. So it is your interpration of my words that is wrong one, not my words.
    But this is my question to you. So there is a point where a person engaging in destructive behavior can cause harm to others by greatly harming his/herself. So at what point do you draw the line and say that a certain amount of self destruction starts rippling towards other people? Is there a degree of self destruction that is ok? As far as I know, no one wants anything bad to happen to someone they care about whether it is big or small. So to me, it seems any amount of self destruction is hurtful towards other people who care for that individual. So the statement "as long as it doesn't hurt others" makes me want to take a step back and say, what exactly does this mean? Of course I was going to misinterpret your words, because I do not know what your words mean.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ACIN
    Do you mean to tell me that you have sex to build up your immunity? Or to have a good night sleep? Sure I can see having sex to relieve stress, but stress isn't exactly the demon it is painted out to be.
    Err, yes of course I do. That is not to say, pleasure is not a big incentive.
    I believe I was twelve when my mother (both my parents are physicians) gave me the first talking to about sex (I wasn’t active at the time, don’t get any ideas) – she was mainly concerned with informing me about every risk in detail and how to avoid them, yet she also delicately outlined the necessity for a good sex life.
    Building up on that through disparate lectures at various points in my life, I do go through life with the knowledge that not having sex is very unhealthy for me, and that it will negatively affect my professional performance and social interactions.

    P.S. Oh and you've no idea how insidious stress proves to be; it's almost impossible to self-asses the degree to which you're experiencing it.

    that casual sex worked for many people, that still doesn't make it the correct choice (and I am not talking about morals here)
    Then what are you talking about? Because any sort of negative biological repercussion is totally avoidable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowake View Post
    Err, yes of course I do. That is not to say, pleasure is not a big incentive.
    I believe I was twelve when my mother (both my parents are physicians) gave me the first talking to about sex (I wasn’t active at the time, don’t get any ideas) – she was mainly concerned with informing me about every risk in detail and how to avoid them, yet she also delicately outlined the necessity for a good sex life.
    Building up on that through disparate lectures at various points in my life, I do go through life with the knowledge that not having sex is very unhealthy for me, and that it will negatively affect my professional performance and social interactions.
    Well, I guess you got me there. If you really are having casual sex so you can stay healthy, (I assume you make sure that doesn't backfire by getting an STD), then it isn't completely pointless on a physical level. However, as I explained, I wasn't stressing the physical part.

    P.S. Oh and you've no idea how insidious stress proves to be; it's almost impossible to self-asses the degree to which you're experiencing it.
    I disagree about that. I don't know what your job is, maybe you are a surgeon and really do take on the stress, but if I take a moment to collect myself and try to be more aware of what I am feeling and acting, I can tell how off key I am due to the stress. I got my finals starting monday, so it isn't like I am sitting here completely chill.

    Then what are you talking about? Because any sort of negative biological repercussion is totally avoidable.
    Ok so you got a safe that has something valuable inside that you want, maybe even need. You got time, and a stethoscope to carefully work out what the combo might be. OR, you got a bunch of dynamite that can blow the entire door to smithereens and you, if you are not careful. Both of these tactics work, but one is more volatile and has a greater chance of hurting you. Do you see what I am trying to say with this ridiculous analogy?

    EDIT: Unfortunately, it is way too late for me to be up longer. I need 8 hours of sleep and I need to study for at least 8 hours tomorrow. I will read any responses tomorrow and try to reply as soon as possible.
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    Surely. Night night ACIN
    Quote Originally Posted by ACIN
    However, as I explained, I wasn't stressing the physical part. (...)
    Well, you were talking about casual sex on the whole as hollow and pointless.

    That aside, I have written about its psychological implications as well just above. Its impact on REM sleep, which has a crucial role in placating depression and enhancing your cognitive and memory skills, on Oxytocin secretion and on alleviating stress are all almost exclusively concerning your psyche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nowake
    Then what are you talking about? Because any sort of negative biological repercussion is totally avoidable.
    Ok so you got a safe that has something valuable inside that you want, maybe even need. You got time, and a stethoscope to carefully work out what the combo might be. OR, you got a bunch of dynamite that blow the entire door to smithereens and you, if you are not careful. Both of these tactics work, but one is more volatile and has a greater chance of hurting you. Do you see what I am trying to say with this ridiculous analogy?
    Hmmmm mmnot really?
    If we are not discussing morals, and we have established it has very beneficial psychological and physical consequences while any sort of negative biological repercussions are avoidable, how exactly is casual sexual intercourse “blowing” you away into pointlessness and hollowness? (no pun intended)
    What you are perhaps referring to is not sexual intercourse, but your human relationship with your partner, which is something that in practice “blows up” in short and long term relationships in equal measure, with the caveat that while you may physically experience short term relationships with increased frequency, you also detach yourself from any negative fallout more easily, while in long term relationships, many people become genuine emotional cripples after an “explosion”, to keep to your analogy.
    Nevertheless, unrelated to sexual intercourse between mature unattached responsible partners.


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    'You have told me before the psychological benefits of casual sex, but as far as I can remember from what you wrote, my complaint at the time (I don't think I posted this though) was that even if it was true, and that casual sex worked for many people, that still doesn't make it the correct choice (and I am not talking about morals here). '

    Nothing wrong with it either, unless you somehow believe that deep down that girl wanting sex is really desperate for her daddy to safe her from you. So archaic to think women have no will of their own

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