Quote Originally Posted by gaelic cowboy View Post
How much liberty do you want or need to get.
You gotta be more specific.


On an related point but not aimed at yourself RVG to be honest I find a lot of this individual liberty stuff to be pure guff, if you ask me most the people who are saying it are not actually libertarians at all.

Usually it's some GOP reactionary/plutocrat who goes about using there individual liberty as a cover to protect X.

A farmer in Iowa thinks his subsidy is reward for self reliance and protection of X so he calls himself libertarian. Thats all well and good till he goes out and votes to prevent or curb welfare for poor people in the nation as a whole how is that libertarian.

Incidently who was the .ORG member that said they copped the GOP is not actually libertarian and really use the term to fool libertarian voters into givin em the tick.
I do not consider myself a libertarian nor do I belong to the GOP. I oppose Obamacare not out of some partisan reasons but purely based on the reasons discussed earlier in this thread.