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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    <- this / people like him.

    When people ask me why I am against the economical system we have at large.
    ok bro. Sorry I'm a dirty capitalist pig using my own money to create a comfortable life for myself in the future. It's not hard to invest and it doesn't take as much money as people think. Nearly anyone can do it, it isn't my Fault people are too stupid to be able to do so. The issue with your little dream society and whatever flawed economic model you pine for is that simple fact. There are smart People and there are stupid people, neh.

    But I digress I'm evil your a crusader of good. Oh and I'm also ignorant and misled, coolly wish I could quell my greedy Little heart by being happy as a ski instructor and children's teacher. Oh wait but I'm not.

    Look across history and where you find success is where you find capitalism.
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    See you just come off as a pompous asshole when you call something you are good at as "easy" and then claim that people are just too stupid to do what you are doing. If they are too stupid then by definition it is hard for them to do it.

    Also many people may not be suited for playing the stock market. Not everyone is good at one thing. You got a lot of growing up son.


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    I would also beg to differ that it is really "your money" and more like "money that was given to you."

    That, to me, is irrelvant, it's still money in your possession and you can do whatever you want with it. But please don't make it sound as if you have been slaving away for decades to build your investment capital when the real slaves were, in fact, your parents or grandparents.

    I find it quite amusing that families with double earner incomes of 200k + lump themselves in the same "middle class" income bracket as a couple making a combined total of 80k. That is a huge discrepency. I actually lost friends in college over this, friends whose parents gave them everything and they didn't have to work, and then they insult me because I am a C student thanks to working 3 part time jobs to pay bills and tuition because of my parents lowly nurse+bakery owner income. The only reason I am bringing this up is because your statement that "it doesn't take as much money as you think" is totally subjective to your situation.

    I also think Kadagars comments were a little harsh in singling you out, although at the heart of the matter US investment law is idiotic due to government employees being exempt from insider trading laws, and deep down inside I want it to collapse and ruin everyone involved..
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    But back OT:

    I see Obama's approval in the black community, particularly amongst evangelicals, has dipped significantly.

    I never had any idea there were so many racist black people who hate black people. I mean, what other reason could there be?
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    Anyone who thinks there's movement in the race is fooling themselves. The polling is still quite stable.

    Despite what you might expect based on conventional wisdom, polling suggests that a tumultuous month has done little, if anything, to alter the contours of the race: Obama continues to hold a narrow but relatively consistent lead in polls of registered voters (RV), but Romney fares better in polls of likely voters (LV).

    If you can see any clear trends, you should get your eyes checked. [...]

    Why is the race so stable? For starters, the electorate is deeply polarized and there aren’t very many persuadable voters. Of course, many of those persuadable voters aren’t turned into the race. Most haven’t heard of Cory Booker, let alone care about his musings on Meet the Press. Obama’s comments about the state of the private sector may hurt him, but probably not until deployed aggressively by the Romney campaign.

    The voters most likely to follow the intricacies of the race are also those most likely to have firmly made up their minds.


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    Oh I don't think for a second that the opinion polls or anything else are accurate in portraying the election results. Just because his approval rating has dipped with one democraphic does not mean that demographic will not vote for him. I have absolutely no illusion that black evangelicals will vote for Romney, just like I have no illusions that white PaulBots will vote for Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Major Robert Dump View Post
    Oh I don't think for a second that the opinion polls or anything else are accurate in portraying the election results.
    They're on measure, no more, no less. The most interesting stuff happens when people with a deep understanding of statistical math combine the polls with other interesting things like voter turnout historical maps and regression analysis. You know, Nate Silver's bag.

    But do I take any particular poll or aggregate of polls as predictive of an election months away? Of course not. What the stasis in the polls indicates to me is that the scandals and oopsies and storis of the day aren't getting any traction—right now. The vast majority of people just aren't paying attention yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    They're on measure, no more, no less. The most interesting stuff happens when people with a deep understanding of statistical math combine the polls with other interesting things like voter turnout historical maps and regression analysis. You know, Nate Silver's bag.

    But do I take any particular poll or aggregate of polls as predictive of an election months away? Of course not. What the stasis in the polls indicates to me is that the scandals and oopsies and storis of the day aren't getting any traction—right now. The vast majority of people just aren't paying attention yet.
    You miss understood me, and I wasn't all that clear.

    I mentioned the lower approval rating amongst black voters. You mentioned the overall unchanging waters of the election polls. I thought perhaps you were suggesting that the lower approval ratings amongst blacks was irrelevant and not a good indication of eventual turnout, and I was agreeing with you.

    Basically, don't mix opinion polls w/ issue polls with how-will-u-vote polls and think they are interchangable.

    And aside from all this,
    I was just wanting to make a funny
    By pointing out that there were black voters who didn't approve of The Man
    And henceforth were racist

    I failed
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centurion1 View Post
    ok bro. Sorry I'm a dirty capitalist pig using my own money to create a comfortable life for myself in the future. It's not hard to invest and it doesn't take as much money as people think. Nearly anyone can do it, it isn't my Fault people are too stupid to be able to do so. The issue with your little dream society and whatever flawed economic model you pine for is that simple fact. There are smart People and there are stupid people, neh.

    But I digress I'm evil your a crusader of good. Oh and I'm also ignorant and misled, coolly wish I could quell my greedy Little heart by being happy as a ski instructor and children's teacher. Oh wait but I'm not.
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    Some people are born on 3rd base and think they hit a triple.

    Look across history and where you find success is where you find capitalism
    This statement means nothing. No one is talking about getting rid of private owned, for profit buisness. No one really ever does.
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