2012 U.S. Presidential Election

[a completely inoffensive name]

You people are watching one big infomercial. I am disappointed.

[ICantSpellDawg]

You people are watching one big infomercial. I am disappointed.

Michelle's speech sucked and did nothing for me. I'm glad that they are deciding to overplay their hand on the abortion issue. It will give us an opportunity to hammer the President on his positions on infanticide during the debate. Romney takes a centrist position on abortion, clearly attempting to balance the rights of women with the rights of the unborn. Obama believes that an abortion Dr should be the one to decide whether a child who survives even a late term abortion gets life saving treatment or not. Barack Obama was an IS against a ban on late term abortions. As "detached" as Mitt Romney is, his abortion position is much closer to the position of most Americans and is much more humane than Obama's

[Goofball]

Michelle's speech sucked and did nothing for me. I'm glad that they are deciding to overplay their hand on the abortion issue. It will give us an opportunity to hammer the President on his positions on infanticide during the debate. Romney takes a centrist position on abortion, clearly attempting to balance the rights of women with the rights of the unborn. Obama believes that an abortion Dr should be the one to decide whether a child who survives even a late term abortion gets life saving treatment or not. Barack Obama was an IS against a ban on late term abortions. As "detached" as Mitt Romney is, his abortion position is much closer to the position of most Americans and is much more humane than Obama's

Not to turn this into an abortion argument, but you brought it up, so.....:

There are no "rights" for the unborn. There are, however, constitutionally enshrined rights for women (as they are actually, beyond a shadow of a doubt, human beings). I would suggest that any president who, as the sworn defender of the constitution tries to balance (and by "balance" I mean "infringe upon") the legitimate constitutional rights of women by placing them on the same level as the in no way legal "rights of the unborn" has broken his promise to defend the constitution by putting his personal beliefs before the law of the land.

If he wants to infringe upon womens' rights so much, he should have the balls to propose a constitutional amendment and put his money where his mouth is. Who knows, he might even win. You guys did a pretty good job getting the hate vote out against teh gheys in a bunch of constitutional amendment votes at the state level, maybe you can roust up the same brown-shirt base to take down teh chix at the federal level.

[Strike For The South]

Michelle's speech sucked and did nothing for me. I'm glad that they are deciding to overplay their hand on the abortion issue. It will give us an opportunity to hammer the President on his positions on infanticide during the debate. Romney takes a centrist position on abortion, clearly attempting to balance the rights of women with the rights of the unborn. Obama believes that an abortion Dr should be the one to decide whether a child who survives even a late term abortion gets life saving treatment or not. Barack Obama was an IS against a ban on late term abortions. As "detached" as Mitt Romney is, his abortion position is much closer to the position of most Americans and is much more humane than Obama's

humane to you

[Sasaki Kojiro]

[rvg]

Gah. Gutless.

[Greyblades]

So... What does that mean to the uninitiated?

[rvg]

So... What does that mean to the uninitiated?

It means that the Dems now recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Mitt Romney would be proud.

[Memnon]

I believe it means that the Democrats have now taken the same "stand with Israel" position that the Republicans have, in a reversal of their earlier reversal. Is that really how they do that? That seemed more like how to get kindergartners to choose what they wanted for lunch than how to decide the fate of nations.

[Hooahguy]

I believe it means that the Democrats have now taken the same "stand with Israel" position that the Republicans have, in a reversal of their earlier reversal. Is that really how they do that? That seemed more like how to get kindergartners to choose what they wanted for lunch than how to decide the fate of nations.

Agreed. The turnout seemed pitiful. The arena seemed almost half empty. And they voted by "aye" and "nay"? Seriously? Isnt there some sort of better way? The vote seemed very close judging by the number of voices. Plus the shots of the arab voters was funny. You could see the desperation in their eyes.
Guess that means they lost some voters.

[drone]

So... What does that mean to the uninitiated?

"Bow to your AIPAC masters! Bow I say!"

[Hooahguy]

Im going to guess that the Dems are trying to court the Jewish vote, while leaving the Muslims and Atheists in the dust. Which is interesting because according to a Pew report Jews are only 1.7% while Muslims are 0.6%. Which on paper isnt much, but combine that with Atheists and Agnostics which they also alienated, that equals over 4%. Granted, its old, but the info is still pertinent, Id say. If anything the number of Atheists have grown.

Plus they cant even guarantee all the Jewish vote with that platform change since the GOP been holding that since I can remember, so this just looks fake.

Stupid, stupid.

[ICantSpellDawg]

Beautiful. I'm happy with the results AND with the fact that they look even worse about them with their own supporters.
As much as I hold Israel in contempt, Jerusalem makes sense as the capital of Israel, even if it has to be a shared capital with Palestine (which I favor)

[rvg]

Just finished listening to Bill Clinton's speech. The man's a genius. The rest of the convention was one big blah, but he might just have handed Obama four more years in the office. Brilliant speech.

[drone]

Just finished listening to Bill Clinton's speech. The man's a genius. The rest of the convention was one big blah, but he might just have handed Obama four more years in the office. Brilliant speech.

Clinton is a master, without term limits he might still be the Prez. There's a reason the GOP brass despises him, they know they can't beat him.

Of course, the DNC is stupid enough to put it's sole rockstar on TV at the same time as the first NFL game of the season. I caught the speech on youtube, who is going to pick DNC speeches over Cowboys v Giants?