Choose Your Own Adventure Mafia [Concluded]

[edse]

Ah, nice.

Van Halen probably meant eruption btw.

[TinCow]

Worst correct lynch ever.

[Zack]

Your Zack impersonation needs work.

Word. No one pulls off the confrontational "these are my testicles, marvel at their gargantuan size, and bring it on" defense with little to no substance and consisting of dubious merit quite like I do. I would say johnhughthom, but his is more of the "I can't be bothered to defend myself" variety.

[johnhughthom]

Word. No one pulls off the confrontational "these are my testicles, marvel at their gargantuan size, and bring it on" defense with little to no substance and consisting of dubious merit quite like I do. I would say johnhughthom, but his is more of the "I can't be bothered to defend myself" variety.

I must protest! It is not laziness, but proven strategy.

[Zack]

I must protest! It is not laziness, but proven strategy.

I can't be bothered to offer a rebuttal.

Now marvel.

[Montmorency]

Worst correct lynch ever.

If it makes you feel better, recall that Pizza would have brutalized him anyway. Wasn't that your recommendation?

[White_eyes:D]

Worst correct lynch ever.

Much worse then that I think...

“I have special job for you. Are you willing to serve Coldensk?”

The newly freed man nodded.

“Go south from volcano. Run as fast as you can. You will find group of capitalist swine there. Kill one. Take his clothing. Infiltrate their ranks and eliminate them all. Carry out the will of the Union.”

Sounds like a recruitment of some kind is going to occur. Let this be a lesson to everyone who wanted to save the slaves.

[Double A]

Ah, nice.

Van Halen probably meant eruption btw.

Obviously.

Word. No one pulls off the confrontational "these are my testicles, marvel at their gargantuan size, and bring it on" defense with little to no substance and consisting of dubious merit quite like I do. I would say johnhughthom, but his is more of the "I can't be bothered to defend myself" variety.

What about Pizza "Diamond Cojones" Guy?

[Zack]

What about Pizza "Diamond Cojones" Guy?

Diamond is shiny, but small in volume, and its ability to sustain "men of the sea" is questionable. On the other hand, normal stones that are simply humongous are both impressive to gaze upon, and superbly able to hold plenty of fluid to impregnate your mother with twenty offspring in as many minutes.

Although, I will grant that if you wanted to castrate yourself and sell the jewels on the black market, diamond would likely fetch a significantly higher price. So there is that.

[Jolt]

Worst correct lynch ever.

[Choxorn]

The ghost of choxorn basks in the glow of the erupting volcano and attempts to get a tan. Sadly, Zack's enormous testicles are blocking all of the light.

[Double A]

Hey kid. You wanna see a man's external reproductive organ?

Zack, what breed of space whale were you again?

[Askthepizzaguy]

So I am at a loss for targets now.

Suggestions?

Or shall I make this one a surprise?

[Jarema]

So I am at a loss for targets now.

Suggestions?

Or shall I make this one a surprise?

I still think this posts resembles ATPG serial killer trying to pose as a vigilante...
please, let's lynch him before its too late

[Askthepizzaguy]

I still think this posts resembles ATPG serial killer trying to pose as a vigilante...
please, let's lynch him before its too late

What's too late? When all the orange fellers are dead?

I wonder who gets lynched immediately thereafter.

[Jolt]

So I am at a loss for targets now.

Suggestions?

edse.

[edse]

edse.

Jolt!

[White_eyes:D]

What's too late? When all the orange fellers are dead?

I wonder who gets lynched immediately thereafter.

So your admitting it is in your best interest to leave the scum alive?

Yeah, your pretty crazy Pizzaguy...

[TinCow]

ATPG is clearly not mafia aligned. As a result, his night kills have a chance of killing scum and are essentially as good as vigilante kills; they basically count as a free lynching every day, which is good for the town. At the same time, he clearly cannot be trusted as pro-town and we must assume that his victory condition is town-hostile. As a result, while it may be in the town's short-term interests to keep him alive, he absolutely must be lynched eventually. As I see it, there are two factors to consider when determining whether it's time to lynch him.

1) Is ATPG killing actual suspects? If ATPG's kills remove people who were legitimate candidates for lynch votes, his kills are assisting the town. If ATPG's kills remove people who were not going to be lynch candidates, then he is not assisting the town and warrants lynching.

2) Are there non-ATPG-aligned scum still alive? As noted, ATPG is clearly not mafia-aligned. Therefore if you think there are still mafioso alive, ATPG retains value as a possible way to eliminate them. However, if you think all mafioso are dead, ATPG's value to the town ends.

As a result, you should not vote to lynch ATPG if you think that he is killing suspects and there are still mafioso alive. If, on the other hand, you believe that EITHER ATPG is not killing actual suspects OR all mafioso are dead, you should be placing your votes on him.

[Jolt]

Jolt!

I just voted to lynch one mafioso using a rationale that (apparently) proved to be correct.
You voted for me previously just to create a random bandwagon, and you voted this last round to lynch the person who voted for a mafioso, that you called being an "easy solution", even though it was in no means certain that he was a mafioso and that what I did isn't considered fair-play (Hence it wasn't even an easy solution). If there's anything that we can draw from the last day's voting is that the most probable candidates to be scum, provided the Mafia knows who each other are, is:
Those that tried to form the bandwagon on McCrow (Riedquat and Double A), and those that voted for people who were voting for Arjos (Visorslash and you).

That said, which one of us has the better odds of being Mafia-aligned?

[BSmith]

I would have had a hard time not bussing my partner after what happened precisely because I could make a post like that.

[Montmorency]

It was a 3-2 lynch. Only a very few could consider bussing that.

[Jolt]

I would have had a hard time not bussing my partner after what happened precisely because I could make a post like that.

Aww, BSmith, after all this time away from Mafia games, I had forgotten about the comedic potential of your posts.

[Double A]

I just voted to lynch one mafioso using a rationale that (apparently) proved to be correct.
You voted for me previously just to create a random bandwagon, and you voted this last round to lynch the person who voted for a mafioso, that you called being an "easy solution", even though it was in no means certain that he was a mafioso and that what I did isn't considered fair-play (Hence it wasn't even an easy solution). If there's anything that we can draw from the last day's voting is that the most probable candidates to be scum, provided the Mafia knows who each other are, is:
Those that tried to form the bandwagon on McCrow (Riedquat and Double A), and those that voted for people who were voting for Arjos (Visorslash and you).

That said, which one of us has the better odds of being Mafia-aligned?

I only voted for Lazy because he was OMGUSing on D2. Two or three people isn't a bandwagon in my book.

[Askthepizzaguy]

ATPG is clearly not mafia aligned. As a result, his night kills have a chance of killing scum and are essentially as good as vigilante kills; they basically count as a free lynching every day, which is good for the town. At the same time, he clearly cannot be trusted as pro-town and we must assume that his victory condition is town-hostile. As a result, while it may be in the town's short-term interests to keep him alive, he absolutely must be lynched eventually. As I see it, there are two factors to consider when determining whether it's time to lynch him.

1) Is ATPG killing actual suspects? If ATPG's kills remove people who were legitimate candidates for lynch votes, his kills are assisting the town. If ATPG's kills remove people who were not going to be lynch candidates, then he is not assisting the town and warrants lynching.

2) Are there non-ATPG-aligned scum still alive? As noted, ATPG is clearly not mafia-aligned. Therefore if you think there are still mafioso alive, ATPG retains value as a possible way to eliminate them. However, if you think all mafioso are dead, ATPG's value to the town ends.

As a result, you should not vote to lynch ATPG if you think that he is killing suspects and there are still mafioso alive. If, on the other hand, you believe that EITHER ATPG is not killing actual suspects OR all mafioso are dead, you should be placing your votes on him.

Indeed, and if you'll remember, there was an endgame where a serial killer faced off against a lone mafioso and a single townie at the end of one of my Simpsons games.

The mere fact of the SK being there meant town could win simply by voting No Lynch on the final round. The only outcome for such a vote would be the two scums voting to kill the townie, and then murder each other at night, ending the game in a draw, or for there to be No Lynch, and the two scums would either have to kill each other, or one of the scums would have to kill the townie and also lose the game in doing so, the face-off ending the game in a town win.

Or it would have been, if the SK hadn't won.

Serial killers are a particularly prickly situation for the scumbags. As long as one is alive, their entire team can be taken out one by one.

And you never know when town is watching the serial killer, waiting for someone to kill him, and then expose the murderer.

Of course, mafia are bad for the serial killer as well. So long as they live, the SK has a large chance of being outvoted just from the mafia alone, and of course, night-killed.

There is still an important piece of the equation missing, however. And I'll discuss that at a later time, for it is a trump card that benefits us, meaning both myself and the rest of the Town.

[Askthepizzaguy]

There is also an inherent balancing mechanism. So long as there are opposing scums trying to kill each other, the overall power of the scum factions is lessened compared to the town. I've played games where an outnumbered town defeated the remaining scums by playing them off of each other. Without rival scums, the town would have been doomed.

Remove the serial killer and what will happen next is that the unopposed mafia will curb-stomp the town. They're likely on a team of four.

You might safely get rid of the SK after the next mafioso dies, leaving it 1 versus 1 with one exposed. Remove one and have one left.

Or you could be bold and daring and give pizza a chance for a clean sweep, removing the final scumbag and then hoping to do some epic fast-talking all the way into the endzone.

Which worked so well for me in that Smurf game. Thanks for revealing that the mafia faction had been destroyed. Oy vey.

[TinCow]

They're likely on a team of four.

You'll have to give some explanation for this number, otherwise it's you just spouting a number which is convenient for your survival. Personally, four plus a serial killer seems a bit high for a game of this size.

[Askthepizzaguy]

You'll have to give some explanation for this number, otherwise it's you just spouting a number which is convenient for your survival. Personally, four plus a serial killer seems a bit high for a game of this size.

Four is exactly the right number to keep me alive longer.

[TinCow]

Please do not lynch ATPG just yet. Regardless of what I said above, he's too much fun to lose this early.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Please do not lynch ATPG just yet. Regardless of what I said above, he's too much fun to lose this early.

Good things come to those with big testes.