The Toeies.

[Greyblades]

Do not vote to get labour in , vote to get the rest out.

[LittleGrizzly]

Which is probably what I will end up doing...

I told myself I wouldn't vote for Labour for a good while after the Iraq war, I guess that is pretty much past us now or at least long enough has passed....

[Greyblades]

It says something where the war makers are the least crap.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Considering the options are:
A condecending cabal of rich kids who've messed up the economy and by doing so have done the exact opposite of the only thing we consider voting them in for,

A bunch of racists, extremists and loons, hidden behind a showman with one, single, solitary but all encompassing point that does nothing but distract from aforementioned racists, extremists and loons.

A bunch of aimless fools lead by an intergity-less idiot

And labour, the tentative lesser of 4 evils who got us all into this mess in the first place... well they have my vote, for how little I value it anymore.

Before you get too down on the rich kids, think about the fact that they built and maintained the British Empire. You also have to ask carefully whether they're responsible for the economic mess, our Credit rating is Better than France or the US's, we don't have the sort of economic-political paralysis the US does, and our rich aren't moving even more money out of the country like the French.

UKIP aren't Racists and loons, you just made the same mistake as certain Conservatives. Farage believes that the one thing preventing a British recovery is the EU - because it prevents us from making our own decisions - and he's not the only one to believe that.

That's perfectly logical - and he's been bang on about the crisis and 6 months ahead of the curve since the beginning.

The Lib-Dems have spent decades being the "protest" party and they are incapable of being in government.

Labour - need to shed everyone from the Blair era - then I'll look at them.

[Greyblades]

Before you get too down on the rich kids, think about the fact that they built and maintained the British Empire. You also have to ask carefully whether they're responsible for the economic mess, our Credit rating is Better than France or the US's, we don't have the sort of economic-political paralysis the US does, and our rich aren't moving even more money out of the country like the French.

Indeed, the rich kids have thier uses, but this crop is failing to earn my tolerance, they arent maintaining an empire any more and I find myself exhasperated when they are almost intentionally ignoring gaping flaws in ther economic strategy, I.E. Osborne's austerity, which seems only be stalling our decline. Add to that the selfish entitlement that most right wing parties seem to have ingrained in thier DNA, I have had quite enough with them.

UKIP aren't Racists and loons, you just made the same mistake as certain Conservatives. Farage believes that the one thing preventing a British recovery is the EU - because it prevents us from making our own decisions - and he's not the only one to believe that. That's perfectly logical - and he's been bang on about the crisis and 6 months ahead of the curve since the beginning.

...It appears that you seem to be mistaking my comments for a disaproval for their position on the EU. I do not disagree with them on the EU, I think they are racists and loons for everything else they are doing.

The Lib-Dems have spent decades being the "protest" party and they are incapable of being in government.

Yup

Labour - need to shed everyone from the Blair era - then I'll look at them.

They are the lesser of four evils, way I see it and there aint a better alternative, mores the pity.

[Idaho]

Before you get too down on the rich kids, think about the fact that they built and maintained the British Empire. You also have to ask carefully whether they're responsible for the economic mess, our Credit rating is Better than France or the US's, we don't have the sort of economic-political paralysis the US does, and our rich aren't moving even more money out of the country like the French.

UKIP aren't Racists and loons, you just made the same mistake as certain Conservatives. Farage believes that the one thing preventing a British recovery is the EU - because it prevents us from making our own decisions - and he's not the only one to believe that.

That's perfectly logical - and he's been bang on about the crisis and 6 months ahead of the curve since the beginning.

The Lib-Dems have spent decades being the "protest" party and they are incapable of being in government.

Labour - need to shed everyone from the Blair era - then I'll look at them.

I think you will find the empire was built by the poorest, directed by the middle class bureaucracy at the behest and to the benefit of the rich.

[InsaneApache]

Now that is true. Something else we agree on, apart from Tull that is. ;)

[ICantSpellDawg]

Indeed, the rich kids have thier uses, but this crop is failing to earn my tolerance, they arent maintaining an empire any more and I find myself exhasperated when they are almost intentionally ignoring gaping flaws in ther economic strategy, I.E. Osborne's austerity, which seems only be stalling our decline. Add to that the selfish entitlement that most right wing parties seem to have ingrained in thier DNA, I have had quite enough with them.

...It appears that you seem to be mistaking my comments for a disaproval for their position on the EU. I do not disagree with them on the EU, I think they are racists and loons for everything else they are doing.

Yup

They are the lesser of four evils, way I see it and there aint a better alternative, mores the pity.

From the article that you posted: "Bill Etheridge, the Ukip chairman for Dudley and Halesowen, said an internal investigation had been launched by the party and officials were considering Mr Kitson's membership of the party."The party rules state that extreme views are not compatible so senior level head office members of the party will look at the facts of what has happened here and make their decision."

Resigned over a Facebook cartoon posting.

"They" sound like a bunch of "extreme racists and loons."It's like SturmAbteilung all over again! Protect us oh Labour angels!

[Idaho]

What's your position on the Incredible String Band?

[ICantSpellDawg]

I think you will find the empire was built by the poorest, directed by the middle class bureaucracy at the behest and to the benefit of the rich.

Probably more accurate, but management tends to get credit too, and more money.

[Greyblades]

From the article that you posted: "Bill Etheridge, the Ukip chairman for Dudley and Halesowen, said an internal investigation had been launched by the party and officials were considering Mr Kitson's membership of the party."The party rules state that extreme views are not compatible so senior level head office members of the party will look at the facts of what has happened here and make their decision."


Resigned over a Facebook cartoon posting.
"They" sound like a bunch of "extreme racists and loons."It's like Sturm Abteilung all over again! Protect us oh Labour angels!

Ooh, you kinda-sorta-not-really refuted one of my links and misconstrued my resignation to the least crap party as affection.

[InsaneApache]

Blimey now you're taking me back. Remember Delaney and Bonnie?

And Terry Reid....



So I don't derail my own thread I'll start a musical history thread in the FR.

[Idaho]

I never go into any other org forum!

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Indeed, the rich kids have thier uses, but this crop is failing to earn my tolerance, they arent maintaining an empire any more and I find myself exhasperated when they are almost intentionally ignoring gaping flaws in ther economic strategy, I.E. Osborne's austerity, which seems only be stalling our decline. Add to that the selfish entitlement that most right wing parties seem to have ingrained in thier DNA, I have had quite enough with them.

But everybody loves Borris, think about it.

If Cameron spent less time pretending to be less posh and more time being posh he'd do better.

Osborne is a liability though - he's Cameron's great weakness, really. We it not for Osborne the Tory party would not have vilified Clegg during the AV Referendum, which they would have won anyway, and the Coalition would work much better now.

As it happens, I think there are glimpses of the decent young men that Cameron and Clegg once were, ditto Hague, but with many of the other lot (such as Ed Balls) I see nothing but Naked, vicious, ambition.

...It appears that you seem to be mistaking my comments for a disaproval for their position on the EU. I do not disagree with them on the EU, I think they are racists and loons for everything else they are doing.

There's more than one reason to be against Gay Marriage, such as an old-fashioned understanding of sexual politics. Plenty of homosexuals are against it, or have declared it absurd. It would be cruel and unjust to label them as self-hating swivel-eyed loons.

They are the lesser of four evils, way I see it and there aint a better alternative, mores the pity.

If Ed Balls was on the back benches and David Millaband was Leader I might agree but currently the party is in the grip of Gordon Brown 2.0 (with more psychopathy) and a man who is willing to knife his own brother, so great is his ambition or his Messiah Complex.

Face it - the Tories are least evil.

[Greyblades]

As it happens, I think there are glimpses of the decent young men that Cameron and Clegg once were, ditto Hague, but with many of the other lot (such as Ed Balls) I see nothing but Naked, vicious, ambition.

And naked, vicious, stupidity. Even boris isn't smart enough to keep his mouth shut when it comes to gross misconceptions of laziness in the lower classes.

There's more than one reason to be against Gay Marriage, such as an old-fashioned understanding of sexual politics. Plenty of homosexuals are against it, or have declared it absurd. It would be cruel and unjust to label them as self-hating swivel-eyed loons.

...That only adresses one of the points in the links, gay marriage is the least of thier concerns and I havent even gotten into thier unsuitability to run a government.

If Ed Balls was on the back benches and David Millaband was Leader I might agree but currently the party is in the grip of Gordon Brown 2.0 (with more psychopathy) and a man who is willing to knife his own brother, so great is his ambition or his Messiah Complex.

Face it - the Tories are least evil.

All are evil, Labour aren't as stupid, just because they are more bumbling than malicious doesn't lessen my predictions of evil Tories will cause. Labour is a semi-competent evil, that is puts them ahead of the rest.

[InsaneApache]

Labour aren't as stupid,

They are stupid as stupid can be.

As for the right being selfish. It's called realism.

FFS Evil Tories. Evil Tories.

ROFLOL

About as evil as a feather bed.

[Greyblades]

They are stupid as stupid can be.

As for the right being selfish. It's called realism.

Oh, the urge to go ad hominem overwhelms.

I question your ability to judge the quality of Blue, let alone political competence.