View Poll Results: Should NATO be folded in favor of a European Union Defense Command?

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  • NATO should be folded in favor of a Unified European Defense Command

    8 33.33%
  • NATO should be folded, but no unified European comand is requied

    6 25.00%
  • NATO should be maintained as is.

    3 12.50%
  • NATO should be expanded to include all of NA and Europe.

    7 29.17%
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    Default Re: Should NATO be folded in favor of a European Union unified command?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hax View Post
    You cannot compare the Bay of Pigs with the systematic deportation of a group of people to be sent to their deaths.

    Did you know that in Estonia, the secret police barged in, told you that you were given 15 minutes, and then they sent you and your entire family away to a place you'd never heard. Keep in mind the first deportations were in June, meaning that many people didn't bring any warm clothes whatsoever and so a great many of them froze to death in Siberia.



    I think it looks better now.



    I don't really give what some hick in the Georgia mountains thinks about slavery. This is a matter of statehood and recognition of the terrible atrocities that happened to the peoples under Soviet dominion. Make no mistake, I think the people that suffered the most under the Soviet Union were probably the Russians themselves.



    Yeah, but at the same time the Russian government is still not ready to accept that Stalin was a douchebag of the highest order.


    Dude, I wonder why you're so stuck up with the idea that "if the West does it, that means that Russia can do it as well". Even if all what you said just now is exactly the way you make it out to be (because seriously, it's pretty biased), in the end it's got nothing to do with who has the moral high ground. All I know that the last time when Russia started making noises like these, a very great many people suffered.

    While I agree that the track record of the United States and the European states in the Middle-East isn't amazing, the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq we're not aimed at annexation.
    Hax. We cant blame modern Russia for the deeds of SU. It is like blaming modern Germany for the deeds of Nazi Germany. Nikita Krushchev criticized Stalin already heavily during 50´s and I do not think modern Russians idolize Stalin, but i can understand that the Great patriotic war is something which is big part of Russian identity still. Demonizing Russia will not get us anywhere and this whole good versus bad talk when it comes to World politics is just naive.
    Last edited by Kagemusha; 03-22-2014 at 12:19.
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