GC I am not dismissing your point of view, you are dismissing everything else.

I suggest building coalitions of key interests. You say no one else is like you so there are no grounds to do that. That only leaves marginalization, which means that nothing changes.

http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/10_Pr...s_of_Economics

There are several schools of thought in economics. You can call them right or left if it suits you but they are more about liberal and control.

The economics practiced in America are very close to those practiced in Germany of the 1930s and 40s. You may buy private property but government tells you what you can do with it. I don’t see this as freedom.

Now, I didn’t disagree in principal that the minim wage was bad. What I said was that it doesn’t work. It is an inflationary process that robs you of the benefits you are trying to get if the company passes those cost along rather than taking it out of profit. They may or may not have to profit to allow them to absorb that cost. If they don’t they have only a few choices, pass it on, reduce workers, or go out of business. The only way around that is to have a totally managed economy where everything has set prices. Of course you can’t manage the price of imported commodities so if their cost goes up then products needing them will stop being made. Also every time it has been tried it has failed.

Minimum Wage was not an economic decision, it was a political one and they knew it wouldn’t work when they started it. But it made people feel good and it looked like politicians cared. Then there was the bale out. Who did that help? Did it fix the economy? It was bipartisan.

And do pray tell me what is right wing about a guaranteed minimum income and wages tied to profit vs. minim wage, food stamps and welfare?

@Ironside the US Constitution was founded on limited government. It is now unlimited government and we need to hit the reset button. It has very limited powers granted by the constitution but has gained massive overreach. That has to be addressed at a fundamental level.

The history of it would fill books but instead of a party for small weak government and a party of strong central government and the elite, we not have two parties of the elite and strong government.

The problem to be overcome is to get people to see what they do and not just listen to what they say.

Now, there are grassroots movements who identify with left and right who want a change. They have more in common with each other than they do with the power structure of the government. The power structure is doing all it can to co-opt them or demonize them and keep them apart.

People succoring to the propaganda.