Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
Nothing in common with Greeks and Italians?

No - just that I can't be lumped in with them. Also, you clearly missed out all the countries I didn't mention - France, the Netherlands (English have a lot in common with the Dutch), Belgium, Scandinavia...

GERMANY.

So you allowed your prejudice to dictate how you read my post - because you think I'm Greyblades even though I'm regularly seen to slap Greyblades about.
There are only few British people such as Beskar about whom I do not have the prejudice that they believe in British exceptionalism.
And I will keep and nurture that prejudice until you can be lumped in with the greeks.

Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
As to SPQR membership not being a way to define a common culture...

I don't even know what to say, except, dafuq?
I never said that, so yeah, dafuq?

Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
SPQR IS the definition of European culture, all our institutions are modelled on Roman ones, this is even true in the UK where Roman authority and society largely collapsed after the legions left. Even so, we here value concepts like Republicanism and due process of law, (Roman) letters and our universities were developed from the original Roman concept of a "liberal" eduction.

Even our version of Christianity was Roman.
It certainly had a great influence but so did germanic and other (e.g. celtic) tribal cultures which were simply mixed with the SPQR culture in most places. And yes, we kept quite a few ideas of the romans around for too long even.

Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
Now, lets be clear. It is the fault of the Germans barbarians that the WRE fell, if it weren't for your ancestors we would all have jet packs by now and Rome's Legions would be off conquering other planets!
Hardly. our modern republicanism is often more like a hidden oligarchy, the romans had a monarch instead of a proper republic most of the time, their science and teaching stuff was mostly stolen from the greeks anyway (the ones you don't want to be lumped in with) and is super outdated by now but was obviously flawed enough to stop itself from modernizing. Science and inventions didn't really stop after the collapse of the roman empire either and the Byzantines as the heirs of rome didn't make it to the moon, they couldn't even manage to defend their heavily fortified capital just like Rome didn't even manage to withstand some rabble. The theory of evolution tells us that the empire simply wasn't fit enough for this world and had to go.
As a great inventor once said:
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[...] Death is very likely the single best invention of Life. It is Life's change agent. It clears out the old to make way for the new.