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**Hooahguy** · 11-05-2015, 00:28

A response from CA on the pre-order DLC controversy.

I might not agree with their decision but at least they are trying to be honest and upfront about it.

**Ituralde** · 11-05-2015, 08:51

Nice to hear their side on the matter.
The decision for the original lineup still baffles me. I remember now that my initial reaction was that the second or third installment will focus on Chaos then, which makes the inclusion in the first game even more confusing. At least now we know what they were thinking and why Chaos was not intended to be playable in the first installment. If anything this had made me less interested in the DLC to be honest, but it also helped to let me focus on the Warhammer game coming out.

I'll be following the next round of Let's Plays and reviews with a lot of interest.

**Frazzle-G** · 11-05-2015, 12:06

Personally, I have already pre ordered the game and whilst I was a little disappointed in the dlc decision it didn't bother me too much, but after reading that I fully understand their point of view and even if it was the vampire counts (who are my least favourite race) I still would have pre ordered.

**easytarget** · 11-07-2015, 15:17

Originally Posted by Hooahguy

A response from CA on the pre-order DLC controversy.

I might not agree with their decision but at least they are trying to be honest and upfront about it.

Anytime you have to post that many words to attempt to explain how you are positioning your product it doesn't matter one iota what you said (and I certainly didn't bother to read it), because you've utterly failed already.

It never ceases to amuse me witnessing the stockholm syndrome at work w/ CA DLC apologists buying into their business model costs explanations.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 11-08-2015, 05:00

Originally Posted by easytarget

Anytime you have to post that many words to attempt to explain how you are positioning your product it doesn't matter one iota what you said (and I certainly didn't bother to read it), because you've utterly failed already.

It never ceases to amuse me witnessing the stockholm syndrome at work w/ CA DLC apologists buying into their business model costs explanations.

Well, you should read it.

Overall, there is an argument for the way they've done things - but the problem appears to be in the ay they have conceived of the whole game.

One of the most depressing things was bit where they said there was so much more Lore in Warhammer that they could only make four playable factions because of the depth and the number of units.

Fact is, about 1/3 of the units in Attila are just poorly researched or based on outdated sources, what it comes down to is that the nerds will bitch a hell of a lot more than about the Empire heaving the wrong feathers in their hats than all the historically minded players will about all the Roman units wearing fantasy leather armour.

On a more Warhammer-centric note, everybody knows that a lot of the units in the big factions are junk for point cost and one would assume a lot of that will carry over into Total War, so why not cut out 25% of everybody's more unusual units and stick that in a DLC instead of Chaos?

The way they have it sounds like you're going to rock around the map and then, as things are goign well, Chaos will pop up and pee in the Sandpit.

News Flash CA: that wasn't fun with Attila, it won't be fun here.

This whole "end boss" thing they have going is really frustrating, if it's anything like Attila it will be the same identical stacks with some ridiculous kill-all unit that you have to contend with that ultimately leads the player to just mob the AI.

Bored - looks Like Total War: Warhammer has been struck by the Total War curse - Good game - junk game.

Funny how the junk games are getting worse and worse...

**lars573** · 11-11-2015, 00:16

Originally Posted by easytarget

Anytime you have to post that many words to attempt to explain how you are positioning your product it doesn't matter one iota what you said (and I certainly didn't bother to read it), because you've utterly failed already.

It never ceases to amuse me witnessing the stockholm syndrome at work w/ CA DLC apologists buying into their business model costs explanations.

Yeah it's so just them too.

Go look at any other big strategy game. Dawn of war 2, 4 factions in the box any others are DLC. Company of heroes 2, 2 armies in the box 3 more are DLC (@$13 a pop). micro or min transactions DLC is how any game business works these days. Make your peace with it.

**easytarget** · 11-11-2015, 20:16

Universalizing a bad idea is also a bad idea.

The defense that everyone is doing it is weak sauce. If you want to jump in as an apologist for a bad business model, give it a bit more effort.

As for dealing with it, I've no trouble there at all, so don't worry yourself, I wait till TW games are at least 50% if not 75% off before buying them, at which point typically the DLC is either on sale as well or already rolled in.

**Veho Nex** · 11-13-2015, 00:12

"I don't think this is true. I think the nature of our games means our players are intelligent and rational thinkers, and if we share with them the problems that we face, maybe they can help guide us to the solution that brings maximum happiness to the most players."

Ha, hahahahahahahaha. HA! Gamers thinking rationally and intelligent? What a farce. We're the biggest bunch of circlejerkers around when it comes to our fandoms.