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**Strike For The South** · 11-16-2015, 01:30

Originally Posted by Papewaio

Learn your history the Muslims in India were not anti British. Learn about Football (soccer) and Cricket and you might understand a crucial cultural tie between UK and the rest of the world.

"In 1939 the Indian Army numbered 205,000 men. It took in volunteers and by 1945 was the largest all-volunteer force in history, rising to over 2.5 million men.[11] These forces included tank, artillery and airborne forces. Indian soldiers earned 30 Victoria Crosses during the World War II"

Are we now defending empire? Im also aware that most Indians today begrudge their colonial past. Our resident Frenchman was making it seem like Frances imperial muslims were rushing to save the republic, they were not.

**Papewaio** · 11-16-2015, 01:49

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Are we now defending empire? Im also aware that most Indians today begrudge their colonial past. Our resident Frenchman was making it seem like Frances imperial muslims were rushing to save the republic, they were not.

They volunteered it was their choice. It wasn't Empire demanding for them to join up, nor after independence joining the Commonwealth.

It is a rebuttal that Muslims and Indians in general did not chose to fight alongside the British. If they were anti British you will have to explain the largest volunteer fighting force the world has ever seen being on the British side.

**Montmorency** · 11-16-2015, 01:51

Originally Posted by Papewaio

They volunteered it was their choice. It wasn't Empire demanding for them to join up, nor after independence joining the Commonwealth.

It is a rebuttal that Muslims and Indians in general did not chose to fight alongside the British. If they were anti British you will have to explain the largest volunteer fighting force the world has ever seen being on the British side.

There were enough Indians for many millions to be both violently for and violently against the Commonwealth, as well as many more who were apathetic or some more nuanced position.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 11-16-2015, 01:57

Originally Posted by Papewaio

They volunteered it was their choice. It wasn't Empire demanding for them to join up, nor after independence joining the Commonwealth.

It is a rebuttal that Muslims and Indians in general did not chose to fight alongside the British. If they were anti British you will have to explain the largest volunteer fighting force the world has ever seen being on the British side.

A large number of the Indians defected to the Japanese side and then fought handily against the Allies after the fall of Singapore.

You should not disregard economic factors and the belief we were simply going to win - as opposed to support for the Commonwealth.

**Papewaio** · 11-16-2015, 02:05

Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus

A large number of the Indians defected to the Japanese side and then fought handily against the Allies after the fall of Singapore.

You should not disregard economic factors and the belief we were simply going to win - as opposed to support for the Commonwealth.

40,000 mainly POWs so not exactly volunteer and the same for the civilians living in Burma and Malaysia

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 11-16-2015, 02:13

Originally Posted by Papewaio

40,000 mainly POWs so not exactly volunteer and the same for the civilians living in Burma and Malaysia

They fought well though, didn't they?

**Papewaio** · 11-16-2015, 02:23

Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus

They fought well though, didn't they?

They died well.

**AE Bravo** · 11-16-2015, 02:34

Originally Posted by PFH

From Strike's perspective, from where he lives and where he grew up the UAE is very soft living. As you said, everybody is rich.

LOL yeah I’m sure people have it rough in Texas. Their school textbooks are wonderful, I’m sure they get time in prison for speaking out too.

It’s funny because some of them actually think they have it rough. How cute.

what I was arguing was that we should have picked a side years ago - we have actually picked a side in Syria though - the side(s) against Assad and IS.

So basically you would’ve preferred to have this mess sooner rather than later.

The only Powers able to help a Liberal or just moderate revolt in an Arab country are Western Powers

Apparently not. Picking a side will always lead to Islamist hydra. De-Baathification of the Iraqi army was the icing on the cake, you should’ve kept the high-morale secular armies while they were here instead of running them off to terrorist orgs and replacing them with head-drilling Shia militias who have had the time of their lives collecting the heads of your soldiers/American marines.

playing into the hands of the people who just want to build a concrete wall around the Middle East and let the whole thing go to Hell - or even further into Hell.

You either help like a responsible world power as China is doing in Africa or Russia is currently doing in collaboration with a legitimate incumbent - or you leave.

I blame certain countries for allowing US, British, and French military bases instead of Russian ones. GTFO for god's sake and quit crying about immigration, we lose thousands over here your speaking one breath.