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    What are you talking about?
    A little pedantic, but Strike said that he doubted "the Indians in the British Army felt they were defending the queen".

    Regardless, there surely were differences in attitude - for all ethnicities represented in the military- between 1840 and 1940.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    A little pedantic, but Strike said that he doubted "the Indians in the British Army felt they were defending the queen".

    Regardless, there surely were differences in attitude - for all ethnicities represented in the military- between 1840 and 1940.
    Bruh. Let me have my figure of speech.

    In any event I find it hilarious empire is now being trotted out as a net positive for cultural relations. Brown people were fighting for France because brutally decided they were in charge of their lands

    I'm sure that left a good taste in their mouths.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    Bruh. Let me have my figure of speech.

    In any event I find it hilarious empire is now being trotted out as a net positive for cultural relations. Brown people were fighting for France because brutally decided they were in charge of their lands

    I'm sure that left a good taste in their mouths.
    Have you read anything by Dumas?
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    The idea that Frances imperial subjects were fighting for the republic in the world wars is absurd.
    By the way, Strike, have you ever heard of the classicist Victor Davis Hanson?

    He once wrote a book in which he presented the cases that:

    1. The Thebans were true democrats motivated in fighting Sparta by the moral imperative of freeing the helots.

    2. The Unionists were true democrats motivated in fighting the Confederacy by the moral imperative of freeing the Negro slaves.

    3. The Americans were true democrats motivated in fighting the Nazis and Japanese by the moral imperative of freeing the world from fascist tyranny.

    You would get a real kick out of it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    By the way, Strike, have you ever heard of the classicist Victor Davis Hanson?

    He once wrote a book in which he presented the cases that:

    1. The Thebans were true democrats motivated in fighting Sparta by the moral imperative of freeing the helots.

    2. The Unionists were true democrats motivated in fighting the Confederacy by the moral imperative of freeing the Negro slaves.

    3. The Americans were true democrats motivated in fighting the Nazis and Japanese by the moral imperative of freeing the world from fascist tyranny.

    You would get a real kick out of it...
    I've read his work and he overstates his case. I can understand how you draw similarities between my and his ideas though.
    Have you read anything by Dumas?
    I have not. I took a date once to the movie version of "the count of monte cristo"
    Last edited by Strike For The South; 11-16-2015 at 01:59.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    I have not. I took a date once to the movie version of "the count of monte cristo"
    As cool as the characters are in Dumas books are, his father was way more interesting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    As cool as the characters are in Dumas books are, his father was way more interesting.
    Oh that changes everything.

    We found the Steve Jobs of revolutionary France.

    Does that really change your mind? 1 man? 1 man who is not tangentially related to the issue at hand.

    "At one point a half black man in France was well regarded".

    That would be like me pointing to Crispus Attucks and saying the American revolution was spearheaded by black Americans.
    Last edited by Strike For The South; 11-16-2015 at 06:16.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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    It is one example of many that shows that Africans have been better treated in France then the US. If you read about Dumas then you would learn about his mentor:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chev...e_Saint-George

    It was in 1793 Dumas made General in Chief, it took until 1975 for an African American to reach the equivalent rank in the U.S.

    Toussaint Louverture was the second African-Frenchman to be a four star equivalent for France in 1797.

    You are very wrong about France's integration. U.S. isn't the leader in this, yes better then Australia but that is because we are borderline apartheid until the sixties.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post
    It is one example of many that shows that Africans have been better treated in France then the US. If you read about Dumas then you would learn about his mentor:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chev...e_Saint-George

    It was in 1793 Dumas made General in Chief, it took until 1975 for an African American to reach the equivalent rank in the U.S.

    Toussaint Louverture was the second African-Frenchman to be a four star equivalent for France in 1797.

    You are very wrong about France's integration. U.S. isn't the leader in this, yes better then Australia but that is because we are borderline apartheid until the sixties.
    French sure didn't treat them well outside of their borders. Also, when was the last time France elected a black prime minister?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Papewaio View Post

    You are very wrong about France's integration. U.S. isn't the leader in this, yes better then Australia but that is because we are borderline apartheid until the sixties.
    You are talking about single cases of high born men reaching high rank in the military. You are not talking about the mass integration of millions of people from a different cultural group. It's worth pointing out both of your Steve Jobs were steeped in French culture from the time they were born.

    If you think this is proof of a successfully integrated society, we may just have to agree to disagree. The same goes for all this dick measuring of high up governmental positions. 1 or 2 success stories does not translate to mass integration.

    I tend to get mad at the mouthbreather crew on the right.

    I can't seem to find the ones that aren't mouthbreathers on the internet, they go full retard anonymously.
    Yea, you mad.
    Last edited by Strike For The South; 11-16-2015 at 15:15.
    There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford

    My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.

    I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.

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