IMMIGRATION thread

[Husar]

I see you're in another "Overusing strawmen and misrepresentations to hide my current inability to debate" phase.

Or is this a "I've lost faith in my reasoning but I am still unable to change my viewpoint and the ensuing mental struggle causing me to fail to fully comprehend the oppositions posts" phase?

I can rarely tell which.

I don't know what phase of dismissal you're in but we tend to have laws and judges for a reason. These searches were warrantless and apparently mostly random if there were hardly any arrests. We have an entire police brutality thread in the Backroom where similar cases are frowned upon and yet here it is all fine because "terrorism and they're all brown", which is not a direct quote in case it makes you angry otherwise.

Would you please direct me to the French torture chambers?
How many lives is a Quran on the floor worth to you? When an apartment gets searched they tend to do it quickly. I got my bags searched in an airport once and you don't see me crying about it.

There was not just a quran on the floor:

In another case recorded by Amnesty, police forced open the door of an elderly man with heart problems, causing him to faint. He was later taken to hospital in an ambulance, while his daughters - one of whom is disabled - were handcuffed and screamed at by officers.

Many of those interviewed said they were now scared of the police and have been shunned by their neighbours. Some said they were seeking to leave the country out of fear.

The latter may be the desired effect of such measures. You basically ruin the lives of people by making all their neighbors suspect them (really helps integration!) and make them lose trust in the government.

France's government has said it will ask parliament to renew the state of emergency for another three months.

"But it has not provided compelling evidence that would justify the need to continue these sweeping measures," said HRW.

And then you also extend these "do whatever you want"-powers because it's so nice to have them and you just want to save people.
My point can also be found in the article:

"Freedom, equality and fraternity have been badly damaged in the weeks since the November attacks. France should live by those words and restore their meaning."

I'm worried about our western values, but it's not the muslims who are eroding them, a few of them just push the right buttons and then we do it ourselves.