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    I said occasionally even friendship,
    I like it. Two peoples have lived in one country for 400 years and have developed only "occasional friendship". Way to go!

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    england and scotland relations have had thier highs and lows, (the highs usually coinciding with beating up the french)
    Who was beating up the French? Certainly not the Scots - they have their Auld Alliance to revere, so relations between England and Scotland were not friendly at times of English-French wars, notably the Hundred Years War. Unless by "high relations" you mean hostilities.

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    whereas the EU has just been lows and plateaus of ambivilence.
    An arbitrary statement. To my mind, the UK is the most special among the EU states and Cameron managed to negotiate even more concessions from the EU.
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    Two peoples have lived in one country for 400 years
    I think you'll find it's four.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    I like it. Two peoples have lived in one country for 400 years and have developed only "occasional friendship". Way to go!
    Considering that before we became one country we were constantly invading and massacring eachother for giggles, a long term tolerance and occasional friendship is outright loving in comparison. I was also being somewhat facetious, before the scottish independance referendum we havent had a major falling out since the jacobites in the 1700's and that was more a Scottish civil war which the English took the side of the Protestant Lowlanders against the Catholic Highlanders


    Who was beating up the French? Certainly not the Scots - they have their Auld Alliance to revere, so relations between England and Scotland were not friendly at times of English-French wars, notably the Hundred Years War. Unless by "high relations" you mean hostilities.
    ...dude, go look up how many times we have fought the french, we've done it a lot, even after the 1707 act of union. Scratch that, especially after the 1707 act of union.

    The Auld alliance ended in the 1500's.

    An arbitrary statement. To my mind, the UK is the most special among the EU states and Cameron managed to negotiate even more concessions from the EU.
    That would be if you consider the EU as a pact intended to create a federal government, when we joined it was with the understanding it was a free trade agreement and nothing more and with that context it becomes clear that we have been imposed upon incessantly.
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