Futuramafia [Concluded]

[novice]

@ novice

Would you follow through with your claimed suspicions and lynch Al Sipsclar today?

It's a workable compromise, but why should I have to compromise? Why are you against a GH lynch?
Is Monty one of your town reads?

[novice]

Novice is an awesome addition to this board, but I didn't see him actually do anything with the software trick he pulled out of his magic bag. I would lynch him because of that.

Thanks. You know how it is, or maybe you don't, making the tools is more fun than using them. I'll dig deeper at some point, hopefully.
Apparently you would not lynch me, for other reasons, since you're negotiating?

Speaking of disappointing hunting, it's too bad that Monty couldn't come to any clearer conclusions. Maybe he can use the information. And I know you asked for a list of vote changes, too.

[novice]

Vote: Al Sipsclar as a show of good faith.

I'll be up for another hour or two but not until deadline.
I'll need some convincing to not switch back to GH.

[novice]

Tally as of post 2103:

Lynch votes
3 votes: GeneralHankerchief (atheotes, Murska, Dp101)
3 votes: novice (Cuthillius, Choxorn, Askthepizzaguy)
1 votes: Askthepizzaguy (Pelican)
1 votes: Winston Hughes (Montmorency)
1 votes: atheotes (GeneralHankerchief)
1 votes: Al Sipsclar (novice)

Voting history:

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novice

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GeneralHankerchief

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Al Sipsclar

[El Barto]

*talking to myself clip*

You're on a different timezone! Meatbags need shut-eye!

WH at 11 per day average total, but has very regular spikes in activity over and over, then absent. The spikes are at 34, 24, and 17, which is downward, yet still much more than the 9 per day average he started with. I also think all of this activity is above his baseline.

Why don't you check what those spikes in activity answer to?

I want more people to chime in on this issue.

As a robot, I cannot but help put on a very metallic voice and say ‘EXPLAIN! EXPLAIN!’

[Askthepizzaguy]

It's a workable compromise, but why should I have to compromise? Why are you against a GH lynch?
Is Monty one of your town reads?

I'm against the GH lynch because I believe a jailkeeper fits into the setup with a tracker and vig and masons. If Reidquat can snag his jailkeeper powers, that's even better.

I also read the tea leaves. It seems that every person I suspect is dead set against doing anything productive today and instead preferred to hold GH and I hostage over the claims, which is fine, but they utterly refuse to use the time to question anyone else, including the people they suspect. And that's beyond lazy. It's scummy. It's scummy and I intend to lynch each person who did it. Period.

If you bother to vote with me, you're betting that I'm correct about Murska and Cuth, and the game ends before I get to you, but I'll be dead before that happens anyway.

That's why all this stalling I see from people is markedly more and more scummy. I will be unable to voice my objections to this later, so I'm going on record right now. The persons in question, GH and myself, will be resolved shortly, yet it's just being used as an excuse to do no work.

Your reluctance to help me on any of my suspects only makes it worse. But that's not my only issue with you.

Again, you made your rainbow posts and you used your vote collector, but you didn't do anything with either one. You didn't show your work, anyway. You arrived at a list of suspects I largely disagree with and for no explanation arbitrarily put one of them on your most suspected part of your unwilling to lynch list, today, which to me is a crucial round of the game.

If you claim to find Al Sips a suspect but make no effort to push there, I find that to be distancing, not real suspicion. Especially since no one else is really pushing him as a suspect. That just reads to be to be the easy to get away with safe distancing tactic.

If you're not asking your suspects any questions, if you're not asking others to vote for them, then you aren't trying to solve the game for town, you're just trying to disconnect yourself from your mafia buddies.

If that's not the case, then help me lynch Murska. Or Cuth. Or even Al, if you actually find him scummy. Why are you unwilling to push these people? You never explained why Murska is so high on your list.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'll need some convincing to not switch back to GH.

If he's your suspect, why do you need to be persuaded to keep your vote on him for longer than an hour?

What form of convincing do you need? Opinion that GH is town plus reasons?

By your own admission Al's posts have almost no content, so there's little case to be made beyond that and his vote record. Why is that insufficient?

If you're looking for someone else to make a case on your suspect, it's not going to happen on the .org in 1 hour.

Level with me. What is the vote supposed to prove? It just looks like it is for show to me.

[Murska]

Nobody ever explained why I am where I am on their lists.

I really don't think GH is going to be able to convince me he's not scum at this point, and since the EoD is at like five in the morning and I'm definitely not going to be around, I don't really want to switch my vote around to less scummy people.

[novice]

If he's your suspect, why do you need to be persuaded to keep your vote on him for longer than an hour?

What form of convincing do you need? Opinion that GH is town plus reasons?

Al is a default lynch. I'd need convincing that GH is a bad lynch.

[novice]

You never explained why Murska is so high on your list.

Murska is high on my town list because of mindmeld.

[El Barto]

Murska is high on my town list because of mindmeld.

Your organic brain is not working properly. Well, they never do, technically, 'cos they're organic, but you know what I mean.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I don't think either of you are actually persuadable because one or both of you are scum.

I am probably wasting what little time I have remaining on this.

My vote on novice stands at this point. I've seen all I need to see.

[El Barto]

Pizzabot! Read my post #2105, you can read up on that during the night phase and produce a textwall.

[novice]

I'm against the GH lynch because I believe a jailkeeper fits into the setup with a tracker and vig and masons. If Reidquat can snag his jailkeeper powers, that's even better.

Ok.

I also read the tea leaves. It seems that every person I suspect is dead set against doing anything productive today and instead preferred to hold GH and I hostage over the claims, which is fine, but they utterly refuse to use the time to question anyone else, including the people they suspect. And that's beyond lazy. It's scummy. It's scummy and I intend to lynch each person who did it. Period.

So you're saying that it's fine to hold GH hostage but not to lynch him? I mean, people can be scummily lazy, but they can't all be scum. Isn't resolving GH's role good for town in this situation?

Again, you made your rainbow posts and you used your vote collector, but you didn't do anything with either one. You didn't show your work, anyway. You arrived at a list of suspects I largely disagree with and for no explanation arbitrarily put one of them on your most suspected part of your unwilling to lynch list, today, which to me is a crucial round of the game.

My method is largely staring at the rainbow until a suspect list holistically appears. You mean Cuthilius was arbitrarily on the "not really willing to lynch" list? I had to draw the line somewhere. I mean, I had ten others on the same list. Convince me on Cuthilius then.

But I agree, it's a crucial round, and postponing the GH situation feels dangerous.

If you're not asking your suspects any questions, if you're not asking others to vote for them, then you aren't trying to solve the game for town, you're just trying to disconnect yourself from your mafia buddies.

This is just me whining, but a) your description is not accurate, and b) why do you hold me to a higher standard than the rest of the lazy scum?

[novice]

My vote on novice stands at this point. I've seen all I need to see.

Okay then. Vote: GeneralHankerchief

[johnhughthom]

Whoever was asking about my thoughts on the game a few pages back, I've got nothing. Just had a death in the family on top of starting a new job means keeping up with a game with a level of activity I haven't seen in a long time has been problematic.

[novice]

Whoever was asking about my thoughts on the game a few pages back, I've got nothing. Just had a death in the family on top of starting a new job means keeping up with a game with a level of activity I haven't seen in a long time has been problematic.

That was me. My deepest condolences, and thanks for replying.

[Dp101]

Vote: Novice because the General has promised to reveal night actions now so he will die if mafia (hopefully) due to being caught out in a lie, and while I like Novice's criticisms of the General I dislike how he has reacted to Pizza, feels like he is not really answering the accusations that are forming Pizza's case.

[Cuthillius]

Meh

I feel like GH's claim is believable from the way he's treated talking about it

I still don't like the look of novice

his interaction with pizza doesn't help, he still doesn't feel invested in what he's saying

[Cuthillius]

Vote: Novice because the General has promised to reveal night actions now so he will die if mafia (hopefully) due to being caught out in a lie, and while I like Novice's criticisms of the General I dislike how he has reacted to Pizza, feels like he is not really answering the accusations that are forming Pizza's case.

nice xpost

[Cuthillius]

novice tell me this

why does GH react the way he does to claims, and then make the promise he's made wrt revealing

do you think he's the scummiest person or is that self-pres

[Dp101]

Whoever was asking about my thoughts on the game a few pages back, I've got nothing. Just had a death in the family on top of starting a new job means keeping up with a game with a level of activity I haven't seen in a long time has been problematic.

I'm really sorry. Won't pressure you for a couple of days, take all the time to recover you need.

[Dp101]

nice xpost

Thanks.

[novice]

novice tell me this

why does GH react the way he does to claims, and then make the promise he's made wrt revealing

do you think he's the scummiest person or is that self-pres

He's my best bet. Don't know the answer to your first question though. I don't like any other aspect of his claim or reaction, but that promise is towny.

[novice]

Cuth, who are your suspects apart from me?

[novice]

Well, I'm going to bed.

[Cuthillius]

Cuth, who are your suspects apart from me?

Depends on things. I have no hard suspects other than you, but we'll see what happens after potential claims resolve themselves. Right now I'm leaning town on all of the claims, but that could easily change and I think your flip would be very telling.

Don't have any hugely strong feelings, but there are cords and connections

[Cuthillius]

He's my best bet. Don't know the answer to your first question though. I don't like any other aspect of his claim or reaction, but that promise is towny.

i'm fine with this

[Montmorency]

Novice, I warn you that I will lynch you over GH any time.

@GeneralHankerchief: You said you would reveal actions later, but from the structure of some posts it looked like you were saying that you have used your role on Atheotes, Montmorency, and Pelican. Did I misinterpret or is it that you want to reveal timing? And what are your plans on role cooperation vis-a-vis Pizza as outlined here?

[El Barto]

@novice: Do you have any worthwhile claims regarding why the town should not lynch your organic ass?

Whoever was asking about my thoughts on the game a few pages back, I've got nothing. Just had a death in the family on top of starting a new job means keeping up with a game with a level of activity I haven't seen in a long time has been problematic.

Heh, I was actually asking about how Winston claimed to have no idea whom to vote for but wasn't voting you as is his default.

OOC: Eurgh!