POTUS Election thread

[Seamus Fermanagh]

How about they make a compromise and elect Bernie Sanders?

You are nothing if not consistent in your views, pal.

Not gonna happen though.

The mechanics of a HoR vote prevent it. If no candidate gets to 270 in the electoral college, the House decides, but is limited in their choice to the top three vote getters in the Electoral College. Two of these will be Clinton and Trump. The Third (if any) would be either a 3rd party candidate who "steals" one state (the McMullen scenario above is the only one with a chance really) or a person getting one or two single votes from "faithless" electors who choose to vote for someone other than the candidate for whom they were designated to vote at the time of their selection.

Ryan or Kasich or Rubio or even Bush might get such a one off from a Trump elector. It is possible that a Clinton elector might instead vote for Sanders, thus making him 3rd and putting his name in the mix.

HOWEVER, the House vote is by STATE, not by individual as it is for the Senate vote for VP. As the GOP controls (and will do so even after the election) 27-29 of the state delegations, they person chosen from the short list will be GOP or just perhaps a conservative amenable to the GOP. Sanders would not get the nod.

[drone]

Having the GOP House turn it's back on him might be the only way to save the party in the long run. And given Trump's latest on the global world conspiracy (it's teh joows!) to keep him out of office, it would be pretty hilarious. But I'm not sure the GOP reps have the cajones for it, unfortunately.

[Husar]

You are nothing if not consistent in your views, pal.

Not gonna happen though.

Thanks, and that was a given. But I can dream, can't I?
Maybe once Hillary makes only politics for the banks the people will become more ready for someone like Sanders.

Having the GOP House turn it's back on him might be the only way to save the party in the long run. And given Trump's latest on the global world conspiracy (it's teh joows!) to keep him out of office, it would be pretty hilarious. But I'm not sure the GOP reps have the cajones for it, unfortunately.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cajones

They don't have the drawers?

[HopAlongBunny]

Latest update from fivethirtyeight:

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/...dier-forecast/

[Idaho]

Thanks, and that was a given. But I can dream, can't I?
Maybe once Hillary makes only politics for the banks the people will become more ready for someone like Sanders.

Americans, when they get radical, tend to swing right rather than left. They have an innate trust of powerful corporations and charismatic billionaires.

[Husar]

Americans, when they get radical, tend to swing right rather than left. They have an innate trust of powerful corporations and charismatic billionaires.

That's racist.

On a more serious note, I think it is their culture, how they grow up. May call it innate flippantly, but it's just a narrative they grow up with and not all of them buy it anymore either. Sanders got relatively far even if it was not far enough after all.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Americans, when they get radical, tend to swing right rather than left. They have an innate trust of powerful corporations and charismatic billionaires.

Trust? Not really, we are well aware of corporate lobbying and the like. A lack of antipathy? Yes. Especially so when it is not some faceless corporation but a personified story of success. Remember, in our culture, many of us really do think that -- with hard work, a good idea or two, and some luck -- that we or our children could achieve that same success for themselves. We don't assume them to be "the enemy" as a matter of course.

And of course we trend "right" when crises hit -- we start a bit left of center as a norm, so the balance tends to swing that direction when pushed.

[Idaho]

Trust? Not really, we are well aware of corporate lobbying and the like. A lack of antipathy? Yes. Especially so when it is not some faceless corporation but a personified story of success. Remember, in our culture, many of us really do think that -- with hard work, a good idea or two, and some luck -- that we or our children could achieve that same success for themselves. We don't assume them to be "the enemy" as a matter of course.

And of course we trend "right" when crises hit -- we start a bit left of center as a norm, so the balance tends to swing that direction when pushed.

I suppose the rags to riches stories are prevalent and often repeated, while the inherited wealth (the vast majority) is underplayed. Even trump is presented as a self made man.

[Husar]

I suppose the rags to riches stories are prevalent and often repeated, while the inherited wealth (the vast majority) is underplayed. Even trump is presented as a self made man.

He only got a really small loan of a million and all of his family's business contacts and friends...

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I suppose the rags to riches stories are prevalent and often repeated, while the inherited wealth (the vast majority) is underplayed. Even trump is presented as a self made man.

Admittedly, a first class education and a $14m stake is easier to work with than $65k in college loan debt and a $42k/annum start.