One word "labeling" attacks....again? That makes BOTH of you recidivists.
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One word "labeling" attacks....again? That makes BOTH of you recidivists.
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Re: UKRAINE thread
Well, Gilrandir refuses to stand-up to his opinions, comments and analyses. So, someone has to put him in front of what he claimed and confront him with the reality.Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh
I am not sure it will give results however.
Russian tanks are still not rolling to Berlin.
US troops are now at the borders of Russia.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"
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I never denied it was banned. It was. But WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING IT it wasn't. Perform the reality check. Although I admit that your reality may be somewhat different from the reality others live in. Much like Putin's.
There is no "Upper Rada" in Ukraine. And the Ukrainian parliament is ONE CHAMBER. If you refer to sources like that it is no wonder your reality looks so distorted. And this refers to your post below as well.
Did I claim they would be? If I did I would be very much obliged if you exemplified your reality check with a quote.
Perhaps they are because Russia moved its troops into Crimea and a part of Donbas?
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"There is no "Upper Rada" in Ukraine" Yeah, as it change the reality of the ban...
"Perhaps they are because Russia moved its troops into Crimea and a part of Donbas?" Deployment of US forces was effective BEFORE Crimea...
"Did I claim they would be?" Long time ago, check yourself, be consistent... You denied every you pretend, then ask me to look for it. No thanks...
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"
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It shows the reliability of sources you use for your reality check. And as for the ban: we were discussing it in 2014:
Ukraine-in-a-thread
Yours (#3437, September 21, 2014):
Of course, the vibrant Ukrainian Democracy made Communist Party illegal… Remind me someone...
Mine (#3440, the same date):
Again Brenus tells a lie (which he no doubt drew from his reliable sources): it was the faction of the Communist party in the parliament that was disbanded, ostensibly since it didn't have the minimum number stipulated by the law (we all should abide by the law in any situation, especially concerning the parliament, as Sarmatian never tires to remind us).
The prohibition of the party is being on trial still.
Yours (#3442):
“Parliament Speaker Oleksander Turchynov declared yesterday that “[with ten deputies quitting], there are not enough MPs for the faction’s functioning.” He further added that “We have corrected a historical error by disbanding the faction. I hope there will be no more communist ideology in the Ukrainian society.”
But I am the liar.
Mine (#3443):
You had said that the Communist party was illegal. Then you give a quotation that corroborates what I maintain - that the Communist faction was disbanded. Yet the party (not the parlaimentary faction) is still functioning. Turchinov hopes that it will not (future tense, mind you) due to the results of the trial which is still under way.
And you still claim that (read the first sentence).
Liar, liar.
And further on this discussion went. Mind the date - SEPTEMBER 2014. After that Communists took part in the parliamentary elections but didn't make it into the parliament culling 3.88% of votes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrain...ummary_results
And now you go presenting the information of 2015 as the proof that I denied the ban? That's rich.
You used the word "now". Remember?
Like BEFORE they weren't?
In view of what I said above I will not ask you to do anything. All your charges are empty words. In fact, everything you blame me in is applied to you, not to me.
But the most pathetic in it that you are so proud of being able to do "reality checks". This ability fails you again and again. First you saw ethnic cleansings in Ukraine...
Ukraine-in-a-thread #767
Ethnic Cleansing? So Putin is right, he is actually protecting the Russian Minority… And I thought it was a fight for democracy and freedom…
... then you claimed Svoboda had 1/3 seats in the Ukrainian parliament...
Ukraine-in-a-thread #2232
Member of his Nazi Party are. His party, Nazi, has 1/3 of the seat in the Ukrainian Parliament.
Should I remind you of your "successful" reality checks in cases of the unhindered Breton language use and the difference between a language and a dialect? And of a failure to apply it after you claimed Lagarde was one of the worst ministers of Finance in French history? So much for your claim that I predicted Russian tanks rolling to Berlin.
Like I said, your reality and the real world don't match.
Last edited by Gilrandir; 03-21-2017 at 17:21.
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Still Communist Party was banned. That is the reality.
All your comments are just smoke screens. You will never change, and probably happy with it.
Last edited by Brenus; 03-21-2017 at 18:51.
Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities. Voltaire.
"I've been in few famous last stands, lad, and they're butcher shops. That's what Blouse's leading you into, mark my words. What'll you lot do then? We've had a few scuffles, but that's not war. Think you'll be man enough to stand, when the metal meets the meat?"
"You did, sarge", said Polly." You said you were in few last stands."
"Yeah, lad. But I was holding the metal"
Sergeant Major Jackrum 10th Light Foot Infantery Regiment "Inns-and-Out"
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Just on that one, Brenus and I gave figures of the awful deepening of the national debt during her time in office. If I remember well you answer she may not be responsible for it. I'm still trying to figure how the Ministre des Finances could be ignorant of the disaster brewing. She may have been aware and then she's just one of those b++++++ds who pushed us down and then not to be trusted. Or she may have been unaware and then she's the most incompentent minister of the last century.
Good luck to the World, anyway, with such people in power.
"Les Cons ça ose tout, c'est même à ça qu'on les reconnait"
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Meanwhile in Ukraine:
https://www.almasdarnews.com/article...russian-banks/
Nice, nice.
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They are not just my comments. They are YOUR POSTS showing inability to perform your notorious reality check. And if you fail to prove your point and show such failures now and thenbe happy living in the warped reality.
My point was kinda twofold. First, the minister of finance is not THE ONLY person responsible for it. The crisis could have its toll as well. Second, such claims as our friend Realitychecker forwarded need a comparative analysis to expose its validity. The said comparison was never offered.
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