Pokemon Nuzlocke FireRed Mafia [Concluded]

[Champ]

who was the poison healer
do we know?

[GeneralHankerchief]

who was the poison healer
do we know?

Don't think so, no.

[Champ]

Don't think so, no.

they should claim

[Askthepizzaguy]

Votes are not locked today. round ends at the usual time and no sooner.

[novice]

they should claim

Agreed.

[novice]

In fact we should mass claim in the order Logic-Manasi-Jabbz-Champ-GH-novice.

[Manasi]

DAY STARTED EARLY WHY

Hi I feel like being here for a while.

Champ u didn't see me vote yesterday soab

[Manasi]

In fact we should mass claim in the order Logic-Manasi-Jabbz-Champ-GH-novice.

I'm da GOAT.

How's that for a claim

[novice]

I'm da GOAT.

How's that for a claim

The scapegoat?

[Manasi]

The scapegoat?

no

the greatest of all time

plz

[Champ]

why are you last

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay so I'm concurrently following FIVE games in realtime over on MU right now because of the stupid championships so I apologize for not getting down and focusing on this right away. BUT. I'm going to do my damnedest to make sure this gets down to an F4. Mafia, please reward my efforts by letting me into deadchat and taking a bit of work off my plate, thanks in advance.

More in a bit

[GeneralHankerchief]

Jabbz Champ Logic Manasi novice

not a particular POE, just thinking

2/5 are mafia.

not Champ/Logic
Champ/novice could be distancing?
Champ/Manasi???
not Champ/Jabbz

could be Jabbz/Logic
could be Jabbz/Manasi
Jabbz/novice???

Logic/Manasi???
Logic/novice possible, didn't novice have him at a full null?

Manasi/novice???

Kinda hate that literally all of my possible Manasi pairings are ???s.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Okay Manasi/Champ probably not a team.
@Manasi your town circle had me, Champ, and novice in it right? So from your perspective it's an easy game. Has this changed at all? Can you give us perspective?

[GeneralHankerchief]

I'm about ready to clear Champ. His only possible partner for me is novice, and the two of them are my top two townreads (Champ having gotten to that point after his EOD yesterday), so if I'm wrong then lolme. But I don't think I'm wrong, at least not this spectacularly so.

[Manasi]

Okay Manasi/Champ probably not a team.
@Manasi your town circle had me, Champ, and novice in it right? So from your perspective it's an easy game. Has this changed at all? Can you give us perspective?

yeah I'm pretty sure the monty death just super hammers in Logic scum.

If I'm wrong on anyone I think i'd more comfortably say it was champ but I'm very confident in the fact that it isn't him. Like the scapegoat thing seems like something he would ride and something he'd definitely want to ride, but I don't think that's this game.

[Jabbz]

I've got nothing. I was sure Barto was scum, and if he wasn't i figured monty was taking us for a ride. I assume I'm alive because I'm an easy sell as scum. I don't have the energy right now to read everyone in context, sorry, just the flat truth. I'll think about whose alive from here and let you know when I have something. I'll try to answer any questions sent my way.

[Champ]

Okay so I'm concurrently following FIVE games in realtime over on MU right now because of the stupid championships so I apologize for not getting down and focusing on this right away. BUT. I'm going to do my damnedest to make sure this gets down to an F4. Mafia, please reward my efforts by letting me into deadchat and taking a bit of work off my plate, thanks in advance.

More in a bit

7z7

I fixed that for you

[Manasi]

I've got nothing. I was sure Barto was scum, and if he wasn't i figured monty was taking us for a ride. I assume I'm alive because I'm an easy sell as scum. I don't have the energy right now to read everyone in context, sorry, just the flat truth. I'll think about whose alive from here and let you know when I have something. I'll try to answer any questions sent my way.

Right now I'm locked on you and Logic being the two scum left.

Why am I wrong on someone I'm clearing?

You got time and a half tbh, 6 people and 48 hours zzz.

[Champ]

Going to bed now

[novice]

Vote: Logic

Logic, I think you're a very likely lynch today. Please claim your role and actions, no reason to be coy.

[novice]

Night actions:
N1: Someone killed Cuthilius
N1: Monty blocked GH
N1: El Barto poisoned Manasi
N1, possible: Someone attacked SeveringViper
N2: Unclaimed: Someone healed Manasi?
N2: Unclaimed: Someone (Monty?) used Thunderbolt (ineffective)
N2: Someone killed Sooh
N3: Someone killed BSmith
N3: SeveringViper blocked Monty
N3: Zack blocked Monty (3 nights)
N4: Zack blocked Csargo (3 nights)
N4: Noone was killed
N5: Someone killed Zack
N6: Someone killed Monty


Day 1
6 votes: seireikhaan (Csargo, GeneralHankerchief, novice, Cuthillius, Choxorn, Raith Kemmler)
4 votes: Montmorency (autolycus, BSmith, Logic, SeveringViper)
3 votes: choxorn (Manasi, seireikhaan, Jabbz)
2 votes: GeneralHankerchief (El Barto, Sooh)
1 votes: Manasi (Champ)
1 votes: Severing Viper (Montmorency)

Day 2
5 votes: Raith Kemmler (Sooh, Montmorency, Logic, Manasi, GeneralHankerchief)
4 votes: choxorn (Csargo, novice, El Barto, SeveringViper)
1 votes: Montmorency (autolycus)
1 votes: El Barto (BSmith)


Day 3
3 votes: Autolycus (Csargo, SeveringViper, Montmorency)
3 votes: Montmorency (Zack, novice, Jabbz)
2 votes: Jabbz (El Barto, GeneralHankerchief)
1 votes: GeneralHankerchief (Logic)
1 votes: Champ (BSmith)
1 votes: Bsmith (autolycus)
1 votes: Logic (Champ)


Day 4
6 votes: SeveringViper (Zack, Logic, Csargo, El Barto, Manasi,
GeneralHankerchief)
4 votes: El Barto (Jabbz, novice, Montmorency, SeveringViper)
1 votes: Logic (Champ)


Day 5
7 votes: Csargo (Zack, GeneralHankerchief, El Barto, novice, Montmorency, Logic, Manasi)
1 votes: Zack (Csargo)
1 votes: Logic (Champ)
1 votes: El Barto (Jabbz)


Day 6
4 votes: El Barto (Montmorency, Jabbz, Manasi, GeneralHankerchief)
2 votes: Logic (Champ, El Barto)
1 votes: Champ (Logic)
1 votes: Manasi (novice)

Voting history:

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Logic

El Barto

El Barto

Champ

El Barto

Logic

Jabbz

Champ

Champ

Manasi

El Barto

El Barto

[novice]

I guess people are sleeping and/or discouraged. As for me I'm also a bit discouraged, looking at the wall of green in my tallies. I also have a social event to attend to for the rest of today.

So here's what I think: Nobody has claimed to heal Manasi, so either
a) Manasi had the ability to heal herself and lied about needing to be healed
b) Someone healed Manasi but doesn't want to admit to doing it.

In case of a) we lynch Manasi.
The reason for b) would be if the healer has fake claimed something that conflicts with being able to heal. So the healer is scum. There are a couple of options for who such a healer could be, but at any rate a scum healer wouldn't heal a townie. So in case of b) we also lynch Manasi.

Manasi has been all tone and no substance in this game.

Vote: Manasi

[Logic]

Vote: Logic

Logic, I think you're a very likely lynch today. Please claim your role and actions, no reason to be coy.

If that's the case, then there is a very likely wolf victory.

For the third time, I am vanilla town. I have no night actions.

[novice]

If that's the case, then there is a very likely wolf victory.

For the third time, I am vanilla town. I have no night actions.

Thanks, I thought you did claim that, but I wasn't sure.
I'd be all for @Manasi claiming now then.

Any other thoughts that might guide us away from a wolf victory, Logic?

[novice]

I'm on mobile only soon. Tally as of post 1705:

Lynch votes
1 votes: Manasi (novice)
Not voting: Manasi, Champ, Logic, GH, Jabbz

Voting history:

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Logic

Manasi

[Logic]

Let me start by saying that I may use "scum" and "wolf" interchangeably. I hope this isn't confusing.

yeah I'm pretty sure the monty death just super hammers in Logic scum.

If I'm wrong on anyone I think i'd more comfortably say it was champ but I'm very confident in the fact that it isn't him. Like the scapegoat thing seems like something he would ride and something he'd definitely want to ride, but I don't think that's this game.

Would you like to elaborate on your line of thinking? I know I am sometimes guilty of using phrases that show uncertainty and certainty in the same sentence, so this could be a mistake. So, are "you pretty sure", or am I "super hammered in" as scum with monty's death?

Thanks, I thought you did claim that, but I wasn't sure.
I'd be all for @Manasi claiming now then.

Any other thoughts that might guide us away from a wolf victory, Logic?

Jabbz stated he thought I was a vanilla townie based on my Magikarp observation on Day 2 (or was it day 3?). I've come to the conclusion that the scum were probably given an idea of what the townie's role PMs look like per the host's Game Rules, specifically #8 & #9. With what Jabbz said when he initially "cleared" me makes me think he is reasonable choice for team scum. If the scum team received the version of the vanilla PM, then I cannot clear Jabbz. At the same time, he cannot clear me. I want to believe Jabbz

GeneralHankerchief has been on the lynching wagon every day BUT day 3. I'm not sure what to read of that, but something tells me that it is important. I've gone back and forth on him all game. His statement about hoping to be the night-kill would make no sense if he weren't judging the Mafia Championships, but I think that is some kind of tell as well.

Champ has no substance to anything he has posted thus far. While someone said that of Manasi, I feel the statement far more describes Champ than Manasi, due to the volume of posts and content therein alone. His tunneling still makes no sense to me.

Manasi I think is a reasonable choice for scum, because no one has yet claimed to have cured the poison condition. It may have been a dead player, but I have a theory. If Manasi is scum, there are 3 possible players (Manasi, Csargo and the third unknown scum) that could have healed her and had reason to keep it quiet. My primary reason for drawing this conclusion is if Csargo claims to have healed Manasi, and one is later lynched, it outs two wolves.

Novice is the one that I felt so confident on yesterday, and now, I'm having second thoughts.

I'm most comfortable with a Jabbz or Manasi lynch. I'm on break at work and I've run out of time; I'll add to my assessments on my next break.
Vote: Jabbz

[GeneralHankerchief]

Logic, that entire post of yours appears like you're just throwing shade at literally everybody left in the game and keeping your options open. I don't get your conclusion of a Jabbz vote from what you wrote either, especially not from your last line in your Jabbz assessment.

Who do you think is the scumteam? Why? Who do you have as clear, or at least, closest to it?

[Logic]

Jabbz/Manasi is my top pick for the scum team.

And if it looks like I am keeping my options open, it's because I'm unsure. I've changed my opinion on most of my reads, and I've been wrong EOD three times, only been on a known wolf once, and my last two haven't flipped yet.

[Logic]

Jabbz stated he thought I was a vanilla townie based on my Magikarp observation on Day 2 (or was it day 3?). I've come to the conclusion that the scum were probably given an idea of what the townie's role PMs look like per the host's Game Rules, specifically #8 & #9. With what Jabbz said when he initially "cleared" me makes me think he is reasonable choice for team scum. If the scum team received the version of the vanilla PM, then I cannot clear Jabbz. At the same time, he cannot clear me. I want to believe Jabbz...

... is telling the truth about being a vanilla townie.