Quote Originally Posted by Choxorn View Post
I don't think the case is totally without merit, but I think it's grasping at straws a bit- Town El Barto is also prone to complaining about how active the thread is and Town El Barto also loves to OMGUS people. And it's for sure a low-hanging fruit case, because El Barto is, by virtue of his unconventional play, always a low-hanging fruit case that scum love to go after at some point.
This is true. It's part of why I wanted pressure on you, that the sudden twist against Barto and Manasi seemed like scraping the floor.


But now it's time to wonder what the Choxorn vs Logic means about Manasi and Barto, and the Logic wagon, and everyone else.

Quote Originally Posted by Sooh View Post
Vote count:

Pizza (1): Manasi

Zack (1): Xiahou

Logic (7): Pizza, Dp101, Slaan, Choxorn, Kagemusha, Winston Hughes <<< Csargo

Reinoe (1): Fredwood

Choxorn (5): Montmorency, Zack, GH, Reinoe, Logic

Xiahou (1): El Barto


Not voting (1): Cuthillius,

With 17 players there are 9 to hammer.

I'm assuming Choxorn and Logic aren't both scum. Well, it's possible but with this spread I don't want to actually analyze the whole game. Clearly Choxorn scum makes the whole wagon atp look good (especially when ruling out m/m). On the Logic wagon, these are mostly committed and long-term votes, they came out early and stuck around.

If Choxorn town and Logic scum, that makes 1 or 2 scum certain on the Choxorn wagon, coming out toward EOD. Zack and Reinoe look worst, Reinoe because he inserts himself firmly when he appears, but overall there's not much substance. So it's a good time to latch on to a counterwagon, I suppose.

Winston has been town-lean overall and not afraid to move his vote from time to time, so he is better left until after the flip.
Csargo coming out agreeing to Pizza's schedule, the latest Logic vote.
Barto, Cuth, Xiahou, Manasi, Fredwood, so far off-wagon.


Now quickly, what if both Logic and Choxorn are town? 2 off-wagon scum makes sense in that case, and 1 on the major wagons to make a team of 3 or 4 would be the perfect spread. How people have been pushing each other becomes very important in this case, since scum are most likely well-distributed and lower-activity. Maybe in that case Zack or GH feinted at Barto and Manasi to leave a distancing mark. Leave this for night talk.


I think we should try to set up a tie between Choxorn and Logic and see who manipulates the tie, since scum often get caught this way. Pizza, in the best version of today your Logic case is like your novice case from the end of D1 XCOM, and Tdome around novice is how we got Manasi outed, and the Tdome around Manasi is how we got BSmith outed...

So let's get this tied up into the end stretch