Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Fredwood]

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Good morning and holy crap is Pizza going off the deep end... let me tell you why his case is (sorry for the language) moronic....

1) He assumes I'm mafia vig, why tf would the mafia vig build up to fake claiming the town vig? Like why. It draws attention and questions when weird, non consensus night kills happen and as mafia vig I want non consensus night kills.... why would I ever bread crumb this? I could maybe understand the argument for another mafia to breadcrumb instead of the actual vig or smth but this ???. Maybe its possible a lategame move towards lylo or smth but D1?
2) My 'theory of 3 shots' wasnt a theory of 3 shots. It was me saying 'we apparently don't have a vig as a vig would've vigged Chox'.. at least that's what I thought. I then, it was late-ish in D2, went wondering about PR's in general... I remembered Sooh saying there'd be 'some PR's' in this game so I wondered what the could be. We saw the first day and first night pass and nothing unusual happen... ok a strongman flipped which also meant a doc around most likely but that's about it? A vig being somewhere made sense to me... so I blindly speculated. Why would I speculate as fucking mafia this way? This perfect information syndrom bs is just that, bs. I literally just finished in a huge experimental game 'Orchestrated Chaos' where I as mafia had tons of informations that V's didnt have and I didnt spill a thing over the almost 3 weeks this game went on (knew of like 70% of all abilities from the get go) and now I sit here and TMI such a basic thing? I'm actually considering this to be insulting on some level...
3) Why the would I ever vig Winston of all ppl in N1? I didnt have a read on him at all at this point, I would've killed off one of my townreads so I could develop Winston however I saw fit. Why kill of a null from my pile instead of Kage of dp? Makes no sense
4) What the did I do other than that? So I'm a vig... ok. Not a regular vig, no additional kills N2 or N3. Odd night vig? But then I'd have to have vigged myself last night... that doesnt quite seem likely. One shot vig? Then why _THE _ would I vig in N1? I was in zero danger, I was part of the town core. Keep it holstered, play the game quietly etc etc... you know, what I'd have done if I was actual part of mafia. Why waste it N1 on Winston?

This entire case is Pizza getting unsecure because Manasi didnt work out, getting called out for it and now and needing to find someone he misread previously to push today to cement his hero image... which will only take a deeper dive after he mislynched me over this bs case.

It has had its ups though, Monty is now secured in my town pile. He stood up for me early and asked the correct questions, as mafia he could've just been happy pizza threw out one of his cores... (though his vote on me in the end doesnt look too good.. why make that if he wants to reconsider.......... >_>)

Anyway, I also believe Chox claim.. at least until there is a counter claim and if that doesnt come forth today he is locked... or the actual gift giver is an idiot. I doubt the second possiblity though, Chox was in no immediate danger so yea. Just one question @Choxorn : What did you do N1?

With all those infos let us recheck all players:

2. Csargo - PoE, dont see why not
3. Dp101 - lock town still, spewed hard town imo
4. Pizza - misguided town or some weird 3p which I don't see us ever defeating so w/e. After him going after me like this I was wondering if he could ever be mafia but he was too obsessed the entire game... mafia tends to not be obsessed but calculating and he wasnt.
5. Fredwood - PoE, but need to read further than page 30
6. El Barto - ... guess PoE after all the backlash I got from my townreading him, will be reviewed with my rereading.
7. Montmorency - lock town after everything imo. Spew quite good and him defending me looks good as well.
9. Cuthillius - PoE, don't see why not at this point
11. Slaan - super sith lord mafia vig
13. Choxorn - lock town
16. Xiahou - I'm SERIOUSLY gonig to be me if Xiahou ends up being the last scum. That would be bm as fuck essentially not playing at this point as scum.

So yea, enjoy that post. Sorry if I was getting a bit mean at times... I don't mind being scumread over stuff generally but if someone calls me out for essentially mechanical mistakes I just can't help myself. I would never even start such a weird long term strategy as mafia.. because why? Just get townread and ride it out...? Why risk ppl asking 'why are you still alive after claiming vig' or whatever bs.. it makes. no. sense. And that annoys me, that pizza still put on his helmet and went full force... because his case only makes sense if he considers me an imbecil at mafia and I'm not. Check the MU award nomination thread where I was nominated for my Orchestrated Chaos mafia play.....

Don't know what else I could do. If you mislynch me I'll haunt you from the graveyard and root for the last mafia ;)

This makes less sense then Pizza's post.

Luckily there's some things that are bad regardless of the "did he crumb or didn't he crumb" debate which even my pea brain can comprehend.

First Winston was a universal Town Read Day 1, even by you.

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Wish that you die so you can get some rest or wish that you survive? :D

I'll head to bed as well, so in case me gets ripped let me give you my current list:

dp101, pizza, Winston, Kage
Fred
Monty, Csargo, Barto, Reinoe, Zack, Cuth, Xiahou
GH, Manasi
Chox

The big middle pack I'll need to sort out and have no strong feelings about one way or the other. I'm totally fine with pizzas points on Winston and kage/dp were looking good regardless (I got a bit sus of dp after his CFD comment but after Logic flipped mafia that looks very good for him).

The scummy points towards GH and Chox havent changed, I'm looking forward to hear from GH today. Manasi is just not playing like I'm used to, she is normally very chatty and active and here it's just ... well not much which pings me scummy.

Alright, gn8 all :)

That was 3 hours before Day 2 opened. Post #1224 So I know there's some short term memory loss that you just forget everything that happened in the thread while you're re-reading, but you should remember that you had him lock cleared before his flip. Then again, Maybe not

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Fred lock town now btw.

. I mean I guess you could argue that you'd remember why you murdered him, but that means if you're town that it wasn't a real read, which makes less sense then you forgetting that post.

You're lock clearing Monty now (don't get used to it Monty he'll cruelly retract the lock clear status in a day or two

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Fred lock town now btw.

) for defending you...he's the only person other then Pizza voting for you. Also what spew spewed Monty clear? Monty was in everyone's "seems like he's trying but we can't give him full credit" pile, I could check but I think you're the first to claim that he was spewed clear. Seems like you missed his vote and are still trying to appease him and his work ethic.

I mean the only other explanation other then scum is that you use the words spew and lock town entirely too much.