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    I don't think there is a specific report on the Hawaii NG demographics. From personal experience the enlisted are primarily Asian with a fair number of Pacific Islanders and Caucasians. The Officers are about 2/3s Asians and the balance is mostly Caucasian with some Pacific Islanders.

    When deployed other units usually don't think I'm in the Hawaii guard because I'm white and have a Northern-midwest accent. About a month into my Egyptian deployment as part of the MFO there was another US NCO I was working with in the higher HQ and he was brutally ragging on guardsmen in general and the Hawaii guard specifically, after about a minute of this I had to interject and tell him I'm Hawaii guard and don't appreciate his comments! Just one example of many assumptions I'm not from Hawaii due to my race, accent, and mannerisms over 19 years in the Hawaii NG.

    As for the discussion on why they are anti-liberal I'd say it anger toward general social changes. The topics of gender fluidity and such are definitely opposed, especially when they see what's perceived as social engineering agendas to change the demographics of the military to be more inclusive (talking gender, trans-gender inclusion not race). The military also has a lot of gun lovers in general which means most are gun owners and very strong 2nd amendment types so they see the left as trying to curtail that.

    I think liberal to a lot of conservatives means any of the following topics: trans-gender/gender fluidity acceptance, anti-2nd amendment, teaching history of US as guilt with emphasis on white-male-christian guilt, reparations and social engineering to correct said guilt, socialism/communism despite no real understanding of what that is, and anti-christian somehow. That's including single issue people like the 'pro-life' crowd. In general I'd call the conservative movement of today more of a social-reactionary movement as it's really just opposition to times changing faster than they can accept them. Change for many people is difficult to accept and fear of change is definitely easy to exploit.

    Trump was able to exploit that fear of change very effectively, as many politicians have done in the past, and as many in the future will continue to do. That's why these brainwashed extremists in the Trump camp think their violence is okay, they seem to think they are saving American from a future in which its communist/socialist, ruled by china, with 'forced' demographic reparations to wipe out their race/religion/worldview. All this is looney stuff but seeing how my own mom who hated Trump with a fervor a year ago is now on board with the Trumpers because they are anti-vaccine (anti-science/reality more like) and anti-chipping and all the other crazy stuff that comprises this vague yet dangerous reactionary movement and its flirtation/acceptance of straight up racists and fascists.
    Last edited by spmetla; 01-13-2021 at 08:17.

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