Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[pzelda]

ime the opposite tends to be true? i find wolves are more in tune with the pulse of the thread because they’re trying to blend in and ingratiate themselves to the village whereas villagers are more likely to do their own thing because they’re just trying to solve and don’t care how it looks. it’s also highly player and context dependent but as general rule i think you have it backwards

yeah, you might have a point here. I guess I'm just forcing myself to townlean Csargo, because if I start tunneling him, he always flips villa. I wouldn't be surprised to see him flip wolf here I guess.
Personally, I find it difficult to stay in touch with the thread as wolf and I also find it difficult to go against consensus reads. I think Csargo's posts here are blending with the overall flow and not loud about that. So, reconsidering this he's probably closer to a wolflean with his content.

[pzelda]

dolby and monty wolf reading capage is baffling to me lol

I need to make a proper dive, but I find it that Monty's establishing vote was more likely town than Dolby's case based on me having a poor reason to suspect Monty. It feels like he might be tmi-ing Monty town.

[Hally]

@GeneralHankerchief i’m reading your eph stuff but it’s not really resonating much. how much did you follow along with rocks inv after you died? i feel like some of the things you’re saying about him are similar to things that were said about him particularly in the later days of that game and the only reason he wasn’t lunched for it was because he looked good off spew. and just generally i think his villa game doesn’t really project as villagery in the same way like mine or yours does. the three times i’ve seen him village (voxx 9er, rocks inv, team game) it’s been the same thing where pretty much nobody finds him villagery. obviously i haven’t seen him wolf recently so i dunno if the same would be true of his wolf game. but like, maybe you can riff off this and talk about how your perception of eph this game meshes or doesn’t mesh with your perception of his villa game?

[Cuthillius]

eph was also in slep

[Maple]

manti

what's up

We made cream cheese icing and a French buttercream so far

[Maple]

Raskolnikov is replacing Ampharos effective immediately.

Don't discuss substitutions and so forth

F

10char

[Ephemeral]

@GeneralHankerchief i’m reading your eph stuff but it’s not really resonating much. how much did you follow along with rocks inv after you died? i feel like some of the things you’re saying about him are similar to things that were said about him particularly in the later days of that game and the only reason he wasn’t lunched for it was because he looked good off spew. and just generally i think his villa game doesn’t really project as villagery in the same way like mine or yours does. the three times i’ve seen him village (voxx 9er, rocks inv, team game) it’s been the same thing where pretty much nobody finds him villagery. obviously i haven’t seen him wolf recently so i dunno if the same would be true of his wolf game. but like, maybe you can riff off this and talk about how your perception of eph this game meshes or doesn’t mesh with your perception of his villa game?

voxx 9er and rocks are awful metrics to gauge my village game by

and team game was a special case of people being bad

how are you not mentioning lets say uh, hbs(which you were also playing in)

or if you want wolf games you've got more than plenty in the last few months where I was generally lock villa for the longest time lol

[Ephemeral]

or yknow

pantheon

[Hally]

Two things: I feel like the threadstate feels more comfortable than it should be? By this, I mean confidence level in particular when considering that post a while ago where someone had an "all mafia are within these group of people" which felt rather pre-emptive simply due to the amount of stuff we've had so far this game!!!

Quick question to everyone in the thread: if you were wrong about a read, which read do you think you have wrong? One of your more confident reads, not your nulls!!

probably eph v just because i acknowledge i don’t really have a concrete reason to v read him other than generally vibing with his posts, but eh

[Maple]

Hardclaim vt

Your move, wolves

[Maple]

Who was the person who spilled the beans on the gh sauce? I think it was sunbae

I don't think sunbae cockscthat up w/w, just my gut feeling

[Maple]

probably eph v just because i acknowledge i don’t really have a concrete reason to v read him other than generally vibing with his posts, but eh

I have a hidden eph read

[pzelda]

I finally read GH's walls and they're good. I don't think the guy is falling off my towncore any time soon. I found myself agreeing with most of his conclusions, especially in the second post (amy/dya/monty/dolby focused). I think I would like to vote within Dolby/Rask/Csargo and I probably would join wagons on Eph/Dya if against someone who is higher in my reads. I'm seriously reconsidering Monty rn, because of Dolby mostly, but I don't think he will be a wagon today.

[Maple]

Ara feels somewhat similar to rocks in a somewhat

Superficial

Way

[Hally]

welcome rask

[Maple]

Esooa could be wolfing

They did a thing in italics

I'd say middling wolf tell.

[Maple]

If I'm a cop hally is my n0

However the only claims I'll make this game are fake mason, comms, or tracker claims, so this post doesn't mean much.

[Ephemeral]

Esooa could be wolfing

They did a thing in italics

I'd say middling wolf tell.

do tell the tell

[Maple]

I'll leave my checks in riddles

[Sunbae]

Sunbae, any thoughts on my Eph case?

I've read it and have no relevant thoughts, sorry. I think it's something I'm fine with being pursued more if you feel like it should be but I can't say I'm on board either. I thought the first section of your concerns about not towntelling in the first two hours while others did wasn't really something I think too much about. Like by that logic you should be sketchy of me too or something. The second part is something I'm unsure on as well because I personally don't feel you're an "easy" or "lazy" target to push out of the gate as scum (and in your example its eph W, gh V).

With all that said though I'm trying to keep a more ... hands off ... approach this game and just letting others do their thing after I kinda hijacked the game for two game days last time to push my own read through. So even though I don't really see it myself at the moment I'm not going to fight some pressure there and trust you enough to do your own thing.

[Hally]

hi hally

how do you feel about *waves hands*

no thoughts head empty

no but seriously, i don’t really have a read on you beyond thinking you’ve been generally agreeable. i nodded along to your stuff about esooa last night but nothing else has really made me feel anything

[Maple]

do tell the tell

I domt really want to

Out of laziness more than anything

But I'll give the cliff notes. Sadly, I don't have time to actually make it sound balling like I'd like

Esooa is in the game and posting. They have like the third or fourth most posts? They're claiming to have read and reread the game.

They post reads. The details are sparse but clustered. Village reads are easy. You've read the game, they look nice.

Their push on me.

Only 1 wolf read, and it's an easy consensus one to make.

The only one, but the sources cited are all very early into the thread. All posts cited are before post 200. In my experience, this (claim to read everything, out reads, find a rational in the beginning then make vague gestures for the rest)

Typically comes from wolves.

I do it. Others do it. It's a sign sign the shit you're saying is bullshit. It's not uncommon, and their read on me feels precisely like that. Their reads are nonoffensive and basic.

Ultimately, the read pings me. If it were d2 in a mash I'd do my song and dance of:

"Double down your read on me or rescind it or I'll [negative action/ITA/etc.] On you"; in mountainous desperado, I'd say "either shoot me or I'll shoot you", like with Para.

That's my general feeling at the moment.

[Hally]

what is the difference for you between the amy slot and my slot?

you seem to be voting me but allowing for irl stuff for amy slot

well amy got her turn in the spotlight so i wanted to pressure you some too

[Maple]

Thinking about things holistically

It's probably
I suppose, I should vote someone else? Idk, might vanity vote and ghost the eod; I think we might be staying late in class today, and it could go through eod

[Ephemeral]

I domt really want to

Out of laziness more than anything

But I'll give the cliff notes. Sadly, I don't have time to actually make it sound balling like I'd like

Esooa is in the game and posting. They have like the third or fourth most posts? They're claiming to have read and reread the game.

They post reads. The details are sparse but clustered. Village reads are easy. You've read the game, they look nice.

Their push on me.

Only 1 wolf read, and it's an easy consensus one to make.

The only one, but the sources cited are all very early into the thread. All posts cited are before post 200. In my experience, this (claim to read everything, out reads, find a rational in the beginning then make vague gestures for the rest)

Typically comes from wolves.

I do it. Others do it. It's a sign sign the shit you're saying is bullshit. It's not uncommon, and their read on me feels precisely like that. Their reads are nonoffensive and basic.

Ultimately, the read pings me. If it were d2 in a mash I'd do my song and dance of:

"Double down your read on me or rescind it or I'll [negative action/ITA/etc.] On you"; in mountainous desperado, I'd say "either shoot me or I'll shoot you", like with Para.

That's my general feeling at the moment.

her latest list has 3 wolf reads though?

granted she only explained the one on you but still

[Maple]

Cuths reaction to my last 3 posts should be suspicion.

[Cuthillius]

no thoughts head empty

no but seriously, i don’t really have a read on you beyond thinking you’ve been generally agreeable. i nodded along to your stuff about esooa last night but nothing else has really made me feel anything

yes yes

more gauging like

your level of comfort about the current gamestate

anything you're specifically concerned about

how your day's been

[Maple]

her latest list has 3 wolf reads though?

granted she only explained the one on you but still

Yeah, and the other two are ez consensus reads. What you're saying is the point, not a point against my feelings.

[Cuthillius]

Cuths reaction to my last 3 posts should be suspicion.

actually more the three posts before then than these

[Maple]

I think the play is to simply invert my reads

Its that easy