Sorceror 17er Game Thread

[Sleep]

its not really complicated, rask fos'd monstr and monstr immediately got defensive over it (not reading into the toxicity just the general dynamic there being not w/w)

[Cape90]

I was thinking the interaction with Dolby after Dolby died making it look like Rask didnt realize that Dolby was dead.

but we could go with that too i suppose

[Dobby]

Hi i celebrate easter today and its kind of a big deal for my family so I'll be gone the full day

[Dobby]

Lmao wait was dolby wolf

I was pretty sure monstr wouldn't play like that as wolf but I'm also bad at this game, wp csargo

[Dobby]

I saw a comment last night too from hk about me "not playing" or something which is kinda lol, Day 2 I was pretty much top posting, it's a weird approach from the one I pushed the hardest, I wasn't really discrete about it


And the questions about my eod (yes I ctrl f my name because why not), are like, I preferred hk, couldn't get it through, tried rask because those are prolly the two that have pinged me the most - didn't work. If it was between ladd and newcomb I preferred ladd (I want to write by far but that would prolly be an exaggeration, I didn't reflect upon which of those two I wanted dead until the wagons became just those two ppl)

I think benneh is prolly still my top town, and from what I've skimmed cuth looks even better now imo


Idk what else for now, from what I've skimmed I don't think my reads have changed.hugely
@zack peepee poopoo

[Dobby]

This reminds me, I want to go look at dobby telling the sorc to target me. I had like... feelings about it. I'm not entirely sure "target newcomb because if he's a wolf cool if he's town he'll make a good decision" is entirely something I believe a villager really thought, but... maybe.

I mean I stand by this still lol, I was very flipflop about you because I don't have much experience with you other than skimming a few of your games, and it's hard to put myself in your mofia mindset

[Dobby]

I've mentioned this before I think but the way he amended that to include an and also ladd btw clause right as ladd was getting run up... my spidey senses tingled

Oh and if nobody pointed this out it would've been weird

[Dobby]

I still think my case on hk is like one of the most hello this is just a wolf, in the game, and really think more people should look at that

Might as well do this again

Vote: hollowkatt

Imma go visit grandma and stuff now, bai

[Sleep]

I was thinking the interaction with Dolby after Dolby died making it look like Rask didnt realize that Dolby was dead.

but we could go with that too i suppose

thats entirely NAI imho, not realizing someone is dead can happen as either alignment, not like wolves r plugged into wolfchat 24/7

[Sleep]

hiollows only statements about ladd day 1 were to say he has no read on him and not follow up, which is Interesting.

i feel bad because he was the primary pusher of monstrslot and, in my mind its not clearing at all

little bit of read stagnation on him for me as hes fallen off a bit but idk

[hollowkatt]

I saw a comment last night too from hk about me "not playing" or something which is kinda lol, Day 2 I was pretty much top posting, it's a weird approach from the one I pushed the hardest, I wasn't really discrete about it


And the questions about my eod (yes I ctrl f my name because why not), are like, I preferred hk, couldn't get it through, tried rask because those are prolly the two that have pinged me the most - didn't work. If it was between ladd and newcomb I preferred ladd (I want to write by far but that would prolly be an exaggeration, I didn't reflect upon which of those two I wanted dead until the wagons became just those two ppl)

I think benneh is prolly still my top town, and from what I've skimmed cuth looks even better now imo


Idk what else for now, from what I've skimmed I don't think my reads have changed.hugely
@zack peepee poopoo

no, I said you were so unmemorable it is like you're not playing.

[hollowkatt]

also lulz on me for being wrong on csargo but gg me for being right on monstr/dolby

[Dobby]

no, I said you were so unmemorable it is like you're not playing.

Thats on you cuz I think I've been all over the game lol

[hollowkatt]

thats entirely NAI imho, not realizing someone is dead can happen as either alignment, not like wolves r plugged into wolfchat 24/7

I know that Raskol is a busy man IRL but I've never known him to neglect wolf chat. You could ask dolby but he's dead.

[hollowkatt]

Thats on you cuz I think I've been all over the game lol

sure.

[hollowkatt]

I'll read your ISO dobby and let you know what I think of you.

[nebjiamn]

csargo

i really want to look at the folks who just randomly cleared monstr for nothing.

i also think monstr had some posts toward ... rask? that probably clear him.

and he had a post to sleep that looks like he knew who sleep was (probably a shot in the dark but lemme go take a look anywho)

[nebjiamn]

This isn't a real thought it was one post

vote: hollowkat

this looks p good for HK ikn addition to his post having a) no read on ladd but expressing wanting to and b) expressing a wolf read on monstr. although if HK IS a wolf it'd be pretty dope if cuth was the 4th considering that last paragraph

[nebjiamn]

Wolfiest of the first few posters :sparkleshrug:

this defintely feels like "lets pile on early suspicion on v!ender that ladd and others started" rather than "lets get some bus cred that ladd started" -- ender prob clear

[nebjiamn]

Feels off to me

Caveat I don't think I know you that well

the wording here is so interesting

i know a few people have claimed to know who sleep is but this just feels .. TMI from wolf chat?

i also don't like the way monstr hand-waves a village read on sleep's big post later on

does anyone want to sanity check me here? feel free to call me a bumbling idiot for this one but i can't shake this + the other suspicions i have on sleep re: the ladd/sleep interactions

[nebjiamn]

Sunbae
Cuth
Sleep

V/v/v imo

Maaaaaybe zack

rule of 3+1 :wowee:

[Sleep]

the wording here is so interesting

i know a few people have claimed to know who sleep is but this just feels .. TMI from wolf chat?

i also don't like the way monstr hand-waves a village read on sleep's big post later on

does anyone want to sanity check me here? feel free to call me a bumbling idiot for this one but i can't shake this + the other suspicions i have on sleep re: the ladd/sleep interactions

youre big braining it too much

[nebjiamn]

youre big braining it too much

its early, i haven't had coffee

but even if i am, its worth getting these feelings out yknow?

[Sleep]

its early, i haven't had coffee

but even if i am, its worth getting these feelings out yknow?

oh yeah feel free to brainstorm stuff, i just gotta interject when i feel something is silly, but i am obviously biased

if i could venture a guess monstr probably just saw the name, didnt recognize it, and assumed i was a stranger

[nebjiamn]

Vote: Ender

talk to me about this?

[nebjiamn]

i'm not going to quote it, but monstr's posting after rask votes him for what he called AtE and monstr's response probably just spews rask v

[nebjiamn]

decided to just iso ladd rather than leave the thread i need to go soon



ladd's second post is still pushing ender but kinda weakly. At this point I think he's got three people (one of benneh or newcomb i forget, zack, hk) agreeing with him on Ender having bad posting.


ladd is townreading benneh zack hk bc they're all following him and agreed with his push. I'm gonna call all of them town.

That random sunbae vote whack af though, especially when he can just vote Ender here and is townreading three people for pushing Ender (imo at least). Completely unsubstantiated across multiple posts at this post (including his first which I didn't include here). Don't think it can't be w/w



he's just starting a second push on sunbae while ender which he also started is still going strong, and is coming up with reasons on the spot

think it makes sunbae v



yeah zack, hk, and whomever of newcomb/benneh said that ender was sus before post 150 is probs town



moves off of sunbae to ender in the 500s, don't know the vc at the time, will look at it later

531 just also feels like zack is not a partner to me but like idk why just vibes



eh maybe not v/w, could be theatre. Still feel like him kinda randomly pushing him was an attempt to establish a wolf-motivated second wagon though


yeah I'm just gonna call Ender a villager and ender/sunbae an attempt to establish v/v wagons early

ladd kinda engages with sleep in a way that feels low level annoyed at them later on, probably not w/w


leave vote on MY BOY

express regret preemptively

profit

honestly a lot of ladd's posting makes more sense if he thinks Katze is a guy

alright i need to run seeya

coming back to how dolby tried to blithely clear zack/me/HK in this sequence has me doubting the HK read i mentioned a bit earlier. feels like dolby could be looking to clear a partner here (or maybe he's just looking to clear 3 villas and gain favor?). sunbae, katze, others chime in on this and help me out here?

i guess I should consider a w!zack world for the same reason but zack's had enough subtle posts that look real good and not over-the-top-for-cred against ladd and dolby at key moments that i don't want to bother with that.

[nebjiamn]

v
Sunbae

ladd voters
Raskolnikov
cuthillius
Montmorency

villagery and/or spew
zack

EnderWiggin
katze
Sleep


some good, some bad
roro__b
Newcomb
Cape90
hollowkatt


a very quick and rough ordering of where i'm at currently. not ordered within tiers i just moved ppl around in notepad til their clumps made sense

how often does that bottom 4 list contain 2 wolves? I could see that a good amount tbh. how often does that bottom 4 list contain 2 wolves that fit with ladd and monstr/dolby? idk yet. i think newcomb and dobby are slightly less possible with ladd for thin reasons. HK may be slightly less possible with monstr/dolby?

Cape i'm not sure. i haven't re-read him yet and i owe that still so this is mostly just a carryover read on him at this point

[nebjiamn]

sorry for spamming. i'm gonna go enjoy my sunday now that the fam is awake and spend some time reading later. ping me if needed/if you reply to some of my points pls

[Dobby]

v
Sunbae

ladd voters
Raskolnikov
cuthillius
Montmorency

villagery and/or spew
zack

EnderWiggin
katze
Sleep


some good, some bad
roro__b
Newcomb
Cape90
hollowkatt


a very quick and rough ordering of where i'm at currently. not ordered within tiers i just moved ppl around in notepad til their clumps made sense

how often does that bottom 4 list contain 2 wolves? I could see that a good amount tbh. how often does that bottom 4 list contain 2 wolves that fit with ladd and monstr/dolby? idk yet. i think newcomb and dobby are slightly less possible with ladd for thin reasons. HK may be slightly less possible with monstr/dolby?

Cape i'm not sure. i haven't re-read him yet and i owe that still so this is mostly just a carryover read on him at this point

I haven't been discrete about you being ?ike my top read but

Sunbae does look good but what are your top reasons for placing him in the top? And same for rask, I mightve missed some voting dynamics stuff but iirc you were one of the ppl who voted him with me? What has changed?