Sorceror 17er Game Thread

[Cape90]

im NGL I thought Rask might have forgot about this game after yesterday

[Sleep]

ladd what's even more incredible is that your ability to read and appreciate the points i'm making in my posts appears to be inversely correlated with my ability to write points that feel like they make sense to me

hng

[katze]

have fun. we will handle this

its okay i have a 2nd monitor and it looks like the game is alt tabbing well enough just dont expect paragraphs from me

[Sleep]

the reason i'm v-reading ender so strongly is a) the like i'm gonna take this game on my shoulders come what may attitude paired with b) the way he responded to my probing

i don't think like anyone would be that thrilled with things being teased apart that way but it was definitely much more strongly the vibe of someone who had thought about and believed in somewhat contradictory and odd perspectives and was upset at someone poking them than someone who'd just come up with takes whole cloth and then got defensive as a show

idk if it's a super clear distinction for anyone else but i believe moderately strongly in this + i think they've been a prime slot to push for wolves if v basically the entire day and indeed people have been pushing them kinda constantly and i think in ways that don't really make sense in terms of reading ender specifically

in particular i have somewhat cold feet wrt ladd and his direction today but idk

oh and more to the point if this is tryhard wolf bladescape i think that maintaining this level of play would be challenging in a way distinct from average in this playerlist

ie i'm happy with what i'm seeing today and i'm not super worried about him going super deep if w and i'm very happy with holding him to the precedent he set d1 in future phases

dude its just cuth

[Raskolnikov]

im NGL I thought Rask might have forgot about this game after yesterday

I have not and I am reading loads about your games at FoL, or how you fake claiming D3 is AI. Which is not helping tbh.

[Dobby]

I'm not sure what I think of the fact that kat is metadiving today as a means of solving tbqh

[hollowkatt]

don't kill:
Raskol
Dobby
Katze
Cape

Probs don't kill Sleep

vote: Cuth

[Raskolnikov]

its okay i have a 2nd monitor and it looks like the game is alt tabbing well enough just dont expect paragraphs from me

it's OK. You can attend your CFD too.

[Cape90]

I have not and I am reading loads about your games at FoL, or how you fake claiming D3 is AI. Which is not helping tbh.

oh cool so your only reading the recent posts.

I have said my piece earlier

[katze]

I'm not sure what I think of the fact that kat is metadiving today as a means of solving tbqh

gira brought up cape being town compared to meta

i thought it was probably a bad read and then read stuff on my own

[Raskolnikov]

don't kill:
Raskol
Dobby
Katze
Cape

Probs don't kill Sleep

vote: Cuth

ok so the wolf just sent wifom at us killing Benneh?

[Visor]

Players Votes

Cape90 2 (Dobby, Cuthillius)
katze 1 (Raskolnikov)
Cuthillius 1 (hollowkatt)

[Sleep]

uh sure i can flesh it out once i catch up

off the top of my head his posting last night was pretty yawn and then he was pushing something i didn't like when i voted him

(when asked by benneh about his rask read)


okay so like. there is a running theme here with cuth. i will talk about it later when i am caught up if it keeps going.

[Sleep]

your point being?

i didn't say "i wrote a bunch of words about rask in my iso"

i said "i voted rask because his entrance was lackluster and he was pushing something i didn't like right before i voted him and i'll give it a closer look once i've caught up"

....

[Raskolnikov]

don't kill:
Raskol
Dobby
Katze
Cape

Probs don't kill Sleep

vote: Cuth

I prolly missed it, but can you walk me through your flip on katze (pretty sure you were voting them when I did)?

[Cape90]

it looks like the two ~consensus (given this point in the game) reads you list are ladd/sunbae v?

second seems dubious given that zack and others have suspected him

wrt ladd do you think your issues could be a result of him latching onto a specific "tell" and anchoring onto it and then your automatically suspecting him because he's pressuring you for suspect reasons? what do you think about his content outside of his push on you? do you think it's meaningful that a lot of people are v-reading him?

how do you feel about the larger-scale pushes on sunbae in the context of your main issue being that particular thing he said

why do you think him walking that back is something he'd be more likely to do as a wolf than as a villager? what are some reasons you think he could have done that there as town?

I see this last question here and man is it a little strange to me. Like, when I make reads on who is wolf, I usually tend not to really care about how many people are town reading someone, especially like day 1 when it is a scramble.

is it really just Cuth here?

[hollowkatt]

ok so the wolf just sent wifom at us killing Benneh?

I'm fairly confident it's not Katze or Cape.
You're obvs town and die tonight
Dobby is also obvs town and should die after you.

Benneh died b/c he was the towniest of all of us.

[Raskolnikov]

you are all driving me crazy lads

[Sleep]

So, if I vote myself out will people believe I have something on Newcomb and go there tomorrow instead of staying off them for ? reasons?

for the love of all that is good in the world please just don't.

vote: cuth

im not going to lie, #1003 tipped me over the edge

I don't mind this if Newcomb is off the table.

I do not feel like their reads feel entirely legit. Especially the way they've treated me.

.............................

[Sleep]

gotta brb for dinner will be here at EOD

[hollowkatt]

I prolly missed it, but can you walk me through your flip on katze (pretty sure you were voting them when I did)?

I was voting Katze because Katze self-voted. When they unvoted I unvoted. I wanted Cape to start the day with Katze being town. Now I'm less sold on Cape b/c combo of their posting and Sleep pointing out all sorts of anti-Cuth things. Which jibes with where I was days ago.

[Raskolnikov]

like yesterday each time I was posting about Cuth, he was looking more townie... now you all quote the same stuff and go "yeah, it's just Cuth lolz".

[hollowkatt]

vote: katze

vote: katze
always, and I mean always, oblige the self-voter.

idk who im voting rn but im hedging real hard in my head rn so im assuming i'd not agree with whoever it is

vote:unvote

gonna take a short break, i think i have a lean in one direction but it is a lot less confident than id like it to be

vote: unvote

@Raskolnikov

[hollowkatt]

like yesterday each time I was posting about Cuth, he was looking more townie... now you all quote the same stuff and go "yeah, it's just Cuth lolz".

why do you think it's Katze?

[Dobby]

I'm fairly confident it's not Katze or Cape.
You're obvs town and die tonight
Dobby is also obvs town and should die after you.

Benneh died b/c he was the towniest of all of us.

Let me die please I'm doing more work


I don't get you clearing cape and katze but prolly cuz I haven't read closely enough lol

[Dobby]

I was voting Katze because Katze self-voted. When they unvoted I unvoted. I wanted Cape to start the day with Katze being town. Now I'm less sold on Cape b/c combo of their posting and Sleep pointing out all sorts of anti-Cuth things. Which jibes with where I was days ago.

But how does anti cuth stuff from sleep mean we shouldn't kill Cape. Those are in no way like, one excluding the other

[Cape90]

Vote: Cuthillius

I don't think they have done themselves favors today, would rather go here then katze today

[hollowkatt]

Let me die please I'm doing more work


I don't get you clearing cape and katze but prolly cuz I haven't read closely enough lol

you'll have to take that up with the wolf tbh.

You're not missing anything really, I haven't cleared them with posts in thread, just in that list / my reads list. I think katze has been townie for most of the game, had some fear for a day, then went back to town. Cape I think has been townie today and not in a "back against the wall" sort of way. I grok the posts Sleep is making about Cuth which reminded me of being suspect of Cuth the other day so I'm back there.

[hollowkatt]

But how does anti cuth stuff from sleep mean we shouldn't kill Cape. Those are in no way like, one excluding the other

because I think on the whole cuth has been wolfier than cape

[Visor]

Players Votes

Cape90 2 (Dobby, Cuthillius)
Cuthillius 2 (hollowkatt, Cape90)
katze 1 (Raskolnikov)