Sufjan 10er [Game Thread]

[Raskolnikov]

poe is rask taffy ender and is confused at rask town-reading him. could be w/w too

that's meta. or me being wrong.

[dyachei]

So what you're saying is that I should be following others on you despite no one apart from ender, who I think could be scum, telling me what there is to follow? @dyachei

i think i'm readable this game. And I find it hard to believe you dont see that

[Lantana]

i think i'm readable this game. And I find it hard to believe you dont see that

Maybe you are, not for me yet :) and you are welcome to call that wolfy!

[Zack]

Day 1 is over. DO NOT POST.

few minutes to double check votecount

[Zack]

3 Totally not Taffy (dyachei, Sunbae, Visor)

2 EnderWiggin (Ephemeral, Totally not Taffy)
2 Ephemeral (Lantana, Mischief)
2 insomnia (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov)

Not Voting: insomnia

[Zack]

correction, insomnia voted in 175. Please use 'Vote:' instead of 'Vote :' in the future, I find votes by ctrl+f.

Also forgot to sort by vote order instead of alphabetical.

3 Totally not Taffy (Visor, Sunbae, dyachei)

2 insomnia (Raskolnikov, EnderWiggin)
2 EnderWiggin (Ephemeral, Totally not Taffy)
2 Ephemeral (Lantana, Mischief)

1 Raskolnikov (insomnia)

[Zack]

Totally not Taffy was eliminated.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

They were Sufjan Stevens, vanilla town!

Night actions for night 2 are due in

Do not post until I explicitly say so.

Alive: 9/10
dyachei
EnderWiggin
Ephemeral
insomnia
Lantana
Mischief
Raskolnikov
Sunbae
Visor

Dead:
Totally not Taffy - d1, vt

[Zack]

dyachei was killed.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

They were Sufjan Stevens, vanilla town!

Lantana was killed.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

They were NOT Sufjan Stevens, but a Subaru!

The man who taught me to swim
He couldn't quite say my first name
Like a father, he led Community water upon my head
And he called me "Subaru"

Day 3 ends in

You may now post!

Alive: 7/10
EnderWiggin
Ephemeral
insomnia
Mischief
Raskolnikov
Sunbae
Visor

Dead:
Totally not Taffy - d1, vt
dyachei - n1, vt
Lantana - n1, mafia

[Visor]

im an idiot sorry taffy

[Sunbae]

Initial reaction to that is that I want to soft clear anyone that was around and active during eod trying to move wagons around. If they were wolves with lan they were sitting on a bunch of villager wagons with no threat to themselves yet still made the effort to move things around. Top of my head that's Visor, Rask, Mischief?

Lan going towards Ephem makes me want to give him space as well.

[Sunbae]

I'm going to take Dya's Insomnia read into account + the whole "Pointed Question" thing or whatever it was between Lan/Insomnia that Rask talked about and think I'm good giving Insomnia the day too today

[Sunbae]

Vote: Ender

[EnderWiggin]

Initial reaction to that is that I want to soft clear anyone that was around and active during eod trying to move wagons around. If they were wolves with lan they were sitting on a bunch of villager wagons with no threat to themselves yet still made the effort to move things around. Top of my head that's Visor, Rask, Mischief?

Lan going towards Ephem makes me want to give him space as well.

Vote: Ender

Sir, I was a wagon during EOD.

[EnderWiggin]

Initial reaction to that is that I want to soft clear anyone that was around and active during eod trying to move wagons around. If they were wolves with lan they were sitting on a bunch of villager wagons with no threat to themselves yet still made the effort to move things around. Top of my head that's Visor, Rask, Mischief?

Lan going towards Ephem makes me want to give him space as well.

Just going to repost my quote because I forgot to bold.

[EnderWiggin]

I also think I tried to start a Lantana wagon at eod.

Either that or I thought about it.

I don't remember.

[Sunbae]

Vote: Raskolnikov

Random vote on Rask to open, who hadn't posted.

Visorslash villager I believe. Justification to come later if I feel the same - riding the vibe for now.

Actually on re-read I retract my v read on visor. I am told he has word salad reads more often as a villager and makes his reads more polished as a wolf, and post 59 looked word salad-y (thereby town meta). If this meta is wrong, blame Katze. That aside though.

His latest string of posting feels like a diplomatic wolf and more closely resembles someone who’s acutely aware of everything they’re posting and the optics. I think this holds true even with meta aside.

Vote visor

I don't think you see this flip flop from w/w in this way? Would expect a more pointed A HA GOTCHA theater than a "lol meta read from katze go brrrr"

Vote: Ephemeral

I don't really want to kill visor today; insomnia I was fine with him (by extension raskolnikov saying I was shading insomnia is not nya).
lemme order my reads

Tried to kill Ephem

I think if Rask w then Insomnia v for the phrasing of MY phrasing to insomnia earlier.
For those not aware of what i'm referring to, insomnia asked me a very weighted question from my point of view, I asked why he did so, and Rask thought my weighted question (whilst answering insomnia's weighted question) was noteworthy. I think i'd see that more from a wolf wanting to cause villager villager violence in general than a villager tuning into a random conversation.
As for what that means for Insom's alignment if Rask is indeed a wolf the same would probably apply (Insom v). Although I say that not having thought of what a wolf alternative would look like #yolo

The Rask W/Insom v thing and the "dont wanna kill insom" has me thinking it could be there instead of Ender, but I'll sponge Dya first

[Sunbae]

Just going to repost my quote because I forgot to bold.

Yes, if Rask/Visor/Mischief are wolves then you have to be a villager because they are the last one remaining. In those worlds, why would they be so active on v/v/v/v wagons?

[Sunbae]

I also think I tried to start a Lantana wagon at eod.

Either that or I thought about it.

I don't remember.

Will check all that out as well soon (well, maybe soon. maybe overnight). Just going through Lan's iso first. If I'm not correct don't sweat it, I'm sure I'll work it out ok.

[EnderWiggin]

@Ender: taffy because I am not sure his villa read on you was a joke and his ISO looks filled with posts made to post Id say.

Lantana because of the focus on visor (weird meta read from katze too lol. Visor liked it, I really didnt: i think he isnt ez to read and if you ask someone about him, you arent likely to come and sheep/use it this way). Also there is a post looking blatantly like a shade on insomnia.

Finally their early banter looked like ww to me. Dunno, it was straight up at the start, but they arent probbing or trying to figure each other out.

Now back to F1

Also this is just town ftr.

[EnderWiggin]

Will check all that out as well soon (well, maybe soon. maybe overnight). Just going through Lan's iso first. If I'm not correct don't sweat it, I'm sure I'll work it out ok.

Oh I actually just was the only one sitting on Lan until I sheeped you onto Insomnia.

Not as clearing as I thought but anyway.

[Sunbae]

Prolly gonna reread it but one wolf in Lantana/taffy.

Wondering if Visor being defensive and willing to articulate read so early is AI or a product of the 24h lenght phase

@Ender: taffy because I am not sure his villa read on you was a joke and his ISO looks filled with posts made to post Id say.

Lantana because of the focus on visor (weird meta read from katze too lol. Visor liked it, I really didnt: i think he isnt ez to read and if you ask someone about him, you arent likely to come and sheep/use it this way). Also there is a post looking blatantly like a shade on insomnia.

Finally their early banter looked like ww to me. Dunno, it was straight up at the start, but they arent probbing or trying to figure each other out.

Now back to F1

Yes @Sunbae, its this one post.

Because insomnia reasoning seems valid to me, like lanfantana had been around and had stuff to comment on, but instead decided to park on me out of an rvs vote when we have zero history. Weird.

Taffy still a wolf. Lanfantana would like to come back to chat (fun fact brought by Raskol - chat is the French word for cat)

lol Sunbae (sorry I can't articulate this read better tbh. but this is my guenine reaction to your vote when I return and explain where I am about Lanfantana -since you asked - and you vote me)

Dya null
visor null
Ender light villa (for tiny reasons, but I can generally accuratly read him scum when he is, and I am not pinged yet so there is that)
Ephe prolly villa (this is a bad activity read)

insomnia prolly not ww with lanfantana.

relax, I am a villager. What does it change for you?

also pov: could you rephrase why you thought he was asking you a "very weighted question"?

You sound fun. I'll come back to it if insomnia is town

I can't imagine this is w/w. Very pointed and consistent about concerns and pressures there. I'm pretty intrigued on the Insomnia portion of this. Rask, do you still think that can't be w/w?

[EnderWiggin]

Mischief is not, funnily enough, my super secret wolf read.

Oh yeah this was Lantana.

Again not clearing but lmao me.

[EnderWiggin]

Beat you to the Raskol townread lel

[EnderWiggin]

Visor is also still town btw.

I'm downgrading Sunbae from towncore for reasons that aren't "They sus me" although I am a sensitive soul it's true.

[EnderWiggin]

So what you're saying is that I should be following others on you despite no one apart from ender, who I think could be scum, telling me what there is to follow? @dyachei

This post is one of the reasons I decided I wanted to kill Lantana at EOD btw.

[Sunbae]

Not to subtly defend existing wagons, however,

Can those that are here nya about their Ephe read? I have him way more sus than insomnia at the moment

That's a lot of insomnia defense near eod. Maybe the snippiness of the "weighted questions" which didn't really show up elsewhere was because it was w/w?


I think I'm rather comfortable saying Mischief/Visor/Rask/Ephem are clear and its just in Ender/Insomnia

[Sunbae]

Visor is also still town btw.

I'm downgrading Sunbae from towncore for reasons that aren't "They sus me" although I am a sensitive soul it's true.

You can't make me talk about myself and "if i were a wolf stuff"

I refuse!

[Sunbae]

Ima go eat and be back during the overnight phase. I'll probably try to condense my headspace into one post when I return. Sorry for the bit of spamming, just kinda got into it a bit.

[EnderWiggin]

Sunbae
Taffy
Mischief
Dyachei
Visorslash
Raskolnikov
Enderwiggin
Ephemeral

Dyachei is probably true null which means I need to find more town reads and/or dyachei needs to be townier

I also had insomnia has my third town but I didn't wanna have him there if he's gonna flip wolf in 10 minutes nya
I def prefer Ephemeral, I can go check his posts again to confirm this (or potentially feel differently )

Insomnia/Mischief/Sunbae wolf POE?

Visor/Raskol have other reasons to townread

Ephemeral is generally town by how Lantana treated them.

And thene there's me.

Ah, I'm a genius at counting.

[EnderWiggin]

He was asking me a very weighted question!

for the first question, couldn't say for more generalities, for insomnia it wouldn't mean anything for that specific context! if you think otherwise I am all nyas (ears)

Wait nevermind.

Vote: Insomnia

Sunbae tinfoil can be kept in the cupboard.