Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[Achro]

look i'm just choosing to run with it because i don't know how to read you lmao

might change my mind if i find something that demands a change in my mind

why not just take the tr

Okay so I want to talk about this post from Vul and why I really, really hate it. I feel like Vul should have already known before ever pressing send why I don't just take the tr. Let's talk about the two games which I was mislynched in last year, both with Vul voting me. Again, not shade mistakes happen I'm just walking you through the process here.

I got mislynched for the same reason: a member of town hard defended a wolf from me and through me off balance so that I came off looking bad. I won't name names, but I had scum dead to rights and on the floor on the Syndicate when someone hard town read them and did so with such conviction that I thought THEY were scum too for not seeing what I saw. This was, of course, a skill issue on my part and by not being calm and assertive mistakes were made and I was eventually mislynched and ignored.

On FoL, I had the scum roleblocker by the throat day 2 and the game almost entirely solved when a certain member of town decided that because they claimed town blocker they should never be killed that day and dragged me over and over until I, once again, got fed up with them and decided to make a cute little world where they were scum because of how insane they came off to me. Due to this I was mislynched day 2 for the audacity of trying to kill scum. But town won so it was chill.

Anyway.

All of this to say.

While I want interactions, while I love interactions and need them to thrive in my solving process, I don't need town reads. Both times I have been mislynched in the last several years (I had gone... maybe close to a decade before those two games of being mislynched, which tbh wasn't healthy and I am kind of glad I got doused a bit) it was because I pushed a wolf too hard and tripped over myself with emotions.

So why not accept the tr? Why not just get along to get along? Because I'm either going to be fine or I'm not. This question feels desperate. It feels like you are trying to crawl away from me on your stomach, blood everywhere as I stalk you. I can almost smell the fear coming off the post. You just want me to leave you alone.

Now you say you are bleeding WIM. Maybe that's the blood coming out of you and you just don't have it this game. Achro a year ago probably doesn't even pause to consider that, so I am pleased with myself. but... yeah, the read itself is meaningless without the cogs and gears behind it.

[Boquise]

i've been shading vulgard all game wdym

I mean that you built in Vulgard shade into a post that was about your Wisdom read and I thought that was weird

[Boquise]

true actually, i did say that
idk i changed my mind lol

lmao lololol
:really:

you gotta say something a bit more with substance, given how dead set you were on this yesterday and have now reversed your opinion.

[Cape90]

@Cape90

Why did you say this when I hadn't been discussed in awhile?

It was just an off the cuff thought I had at the time. I think a lot earlier people were discussing you being mafia and I just reacted to that, but I very clearly wasn't looking real time

[Raskolnikov]

oh this is interesting

took me a min to realize what you meant but assuming firefighter carried yeah

and yeah idk, i wasn't sure but thought it was visor that made sense to poison robyn and then robyn like took him out of a list in a way that sort of hinted they believed it was him, so it does seem plausible wolves would have used the power kill if they picked up on that

interestingly rask said he picked up on who joat was and i believe hes just a wolf but it is a little funny if a wolf was so open about saying that?

ugh this makes me want the 2nd result a lot more but we must wait

and @Lapras where tf u at

yeah. basically you are getting at it: I am simply not a wolf.

[Raskolnikov]

why only1 in achro/vulgard/cape?

because there are 3 wolfs :p (that's my gut feeling rn. letme catch up and read more, maybe there are more. prolly need to parse Lapras world).

[Raskolnikov]

also I don't understand why I read nut gloating about their reads/game/expecting the NK considering the game state lol. #it'sjustawolfshow

[Raskolnikov]

This feels right sorry i just read n his reaction is all over blown he didnt even think about how MD also works dor ppl being visited

I wont vote cuz maj etc

But yh seems decided

dude this is why sane people should villa read me out of it

[Raskolnikov]

Nutella seems towny why are you pushing them @Syn

@Syn: nut/Dz ww in this page

[Raskolnikov]

idk

i guess i started bc i was wolfreading vulgard and didnt think you fit

im not that sure hes a wolf but i think he can fit as one in several worlds

but also your vibes kinda improved nebulously even though you havent done much

so basically, there is no reason for this tr.

[Raskolnikov]

This guy KNOWS ender is real. So yeah I'm bad at game

NO this guy realised it's better to flip him anyway and is past the "acceptance phase". This guy is solving in "Ender is MD" world because this guy will be dead tmr and if Ender is still alive it's not his problem.

This guy is villa Cape.

[Syn]

@Syn: nut/Dz ww in this page

inshallah

[Raskolnikov]

Meh just kill Lapras when I die. I just couldn't believe that Rask was very likely mafia there

pls pls kill nutella/Lapras back to back D4/5.

[Syn]

rask are you a wolf

you have to be honest or I'll cry

[Raskolnikov]

Robyn was saying JOAT was obvious so I just decided to see who would town tell off of it

did u consider it would help the wolves narrowing their POE? or are u just?

[Raskolnikov]

rask are you a wolf

you have to be honest or I'll cry

No. vanilla town. hard claim.

[Lapras]

I dont see why as VT you would assume (a) ender was lying (b) ender was a wolf, given the role set

I also think your know kinda anti spew given your reads are directly bounced off this

I can see why cape isnt tring me but i think aorn its vul/you +1

[Raskolnikov]

I may have to reread the boq/rask interactions tbh

where nutella spends her while day solving out a false assumption. but it's doesn't matter, #it'sfortheshow.

step 1. proclaim someone is a wolf
step 2. read everybody out of interactions with said slot
step 3. gloat about your reads and wonder why you are alive. Feint confusion
step 4. Ask literally every slots of the game to build reads like you do. If they don't, declare they are wolves.
step5. When proclaimed wolf flip villa, blame them.

Rince and repeat.

[Raskolnikov]

I dont see why as VT you would assume (a) ender was lying (b) ender was a wolf, given the role set

I also think your know kinda anti spew given your reads are directly bounced off this

I can see why cape isnt tring me but i think aorn its vul/you +1

dude I posted more today than you this entire game (or roughly).

and I am in anti spew.

[Vulgard]

I'm more confident that Lapras is scum. Finding who is scummier between Nutella and Vulgard is going to be impossible. I am sorry for my performance this game. My day 1 was like S teir cape being obviously town. Now I don't know what the heck I'm doing.

My POE is Rask/Lapras/Vulgard/Nutella.

If there is no cc motion tracker then I just take it as clear

this poe kinda sucks
maybe i misread cape

cape/dya/rask?
maybe substitute lapras or syn but they're secondary names in my mind
@nutella fwiw i take back what i said about rask's reaction being good, idk what possessed me, i thought about it again and it's not

[Lapras]

dude I posted more today than you this entire game (or roughly).

and I am in anti spew.

Yah same page good to see

[Vulgard]

achro you really need to understand that i don't live inside your head

your post about me has the assumption that i somehow understand completely how your mind works and can somehow figure that out from you getting misyeeted by me twice in a row and idk this whole psychology thing seems overblown

[Raskolnikov]

dude I posted more today than you this entire game (or roughly).

and I am in anti spew.

also saying my reads are directly bounced off it is factually wrong.

[Vulgard]

lmao lololol
:really:

you gotta say something a bit more with substance, given how dead set you were on this yesterday and have now reversed your opinion.

i changed my mind COMPLETELY
is that more substantial

jokes aside, the game context has changed so obviously i'm going to rethink my read

[Vulgard]

I mean that you built in Vulgard shade into a post that was about your Wisdom read and I thought that was weird

the reason i'm starting to consider syn wolf worlds is that he's been on the side shading people a fair bit but never really pushing his reads

he has had wildly anti-consensus takes but i don't get the impression he actually cares about pushing them through

to a lesser extent this applies to lapras but lapras just hasn't been around period

[Lapras]

the reason i'm starting to consider syn wolf worlds is that he's been on the side shading people a fair bit but never really pushing his reads

he has had wildly anti-consensus takes but i don't get the impression he actually cares about pushing them through

to a lesser extent this applies to lapras but lapras just hasn't been around period

Yeah i can see this

His tone also seems to have not reallt changed at all despite the cluster fuck of a game

Fwiw my takes are driven a bit by complete lack of awareness

[Lapras]

I wanna see enders second result

[Vulgard]

I wanna see enders second result

yeah so do i

[Raskolnikov]

Reading Dya ISO it's fun to see how Dya/Boq/Syn look perfectly aligned. I have them as ttt but maybe it's just plain opposite lmao. (some posts after Dya said their treatment of partner!illario wouldn't be a bus, they go on shileding Boq then Syn)

[Raskolnikov]

he's allowed to have personal susses, but how hard is it to give 1 line of non specific reasoning?

what would this have done for your read on Visor?