13er summer game thread

[nebjiamn]

taffy my assumption is you're still not caught up? i'm happy to see ur thoughts on the first 100 posts but would really like to see how you piece the game together when ytou look at the next 200~, especially since i probly won't be around for the last hour of eod

[ladd]

yo ladd buongiorno when you're back can you write me like a short paragraph of your impression of the current gamestate (since you already used the word)

i have never been a big gamestate gui but my feeling is that cape is gonna be lunched, he will (probably) flip wolf and then the rest of the game will be a ton harder. the achro/katze is really the trickiest part for me cause they have been wolfread by so many people that some of them have to be villagers AND they have a weird on/off dynamic between them so i am kinda worried i am misreading them and 1 of them is a wolf playing a villagery game

how confident are you on benneh atm

he is not 100% obvious villager benneh, but let's say he is 80% obvious villager benneh. pushing cool angles, pristine toan and generally making good posts

my way to read benneh is similar to katze really

i was kinda worried about him potentially being a wolf with cape and pushing on villa taffy to try to avoid the cape lunch for a bit which is why i did not call him villa earlier but he has been villagery enuf where most likely he is just one

can you go into your dya read a bit more

they seemed a bit grumpy/not having fun from the beginning which i associated with them having randed wolf when not wanting to

but their recentish string of posts feels a lot like villa dya and their push on benneh seems like a classic push dya makes as a villager. don't really feel like they'd bother pushing on benneh of all people d1 as a wolf considering how little into the game they seemed to be

they would have just made a bunch of consensus-y reads and called it a day IMO

and also talk about insomnia

seems fine and probably has an okay view of the gamestate, nice post on cape

wouldnt be shocked if he is a wolf but it FEELS like he is a villager

[Totally not Taffy]

taffy my assumption is you're still not caught up? i'm happy to see ur thoughts on the first 100 posts but would really like to see how you piece the game together when ytou look at the next 200~, especially since i probly won't be around for the last hour of eod

Yes that does seem more useful then. Ttyl

[insomnia]

taffy my assumption is you're still not caught up? i'm happy to see ur thoughts on the first 100 posts but would really like to see how you piece the game together when ytou look at the next 200~, especially since i probly won't be around for the last hour of eod

im not sure how much threadpull you can have by missing out on the most influential part of the game

[ladd]

taffy
cape
ender
dya
sk

i don't realy think i'd wanna actually vote dya or sk but they're the bottom of my reads. sk more nullish and dya slightly wolfy

This is a town post and dya is a town who is having trouble getting into the game.

Let's actually go back 3 years in time to the last time I pulled scum sk out of my hat day one in champs and commit some metallurgical murder.

this is genuinely the purest post itg


iyam

[nebjiamn]

im not sure how much threadpull you can have by missing out on the most influential part of the game

plese don't tell sabi

[insomnia]

if there's a tougher wolf, it probably is katze imo

i don't have the best reason and it has plausible deniability, but the reason sounded elite enough (if right) to not make me reconsider my read

[dyachei]

I just found out on my monster calendar that monday aug 21at is bring your unspeakable horror to work day. But i'm off mondays, so how will I bring amy to work?

[ladd]

I can get behind Katze sus.

I now very much like Winston/Achro/Taffy as town tbh.

Taffy being hard sussed early feels like town!Taffy. And if it isn't I'll work it out later.

Winston I liked their jib.

Achro is doing the particular thing he does where he's like "But why would I do this???" with self-righteousness. Which he doesn't *usually* do as wolf.

idk man, i know you can argue why would he ever post like this as a wolf


but this reasoning for what seems to be a genuine villa read makes 0 sense to me



the wolfiest thing about katze is pobably their cape read which...I am not sure i follow


@Benneh thoughts on visor?

[ladd]

i am re reading achro ISO and man the dude is just a villager

@katze how do you plead?

[dyachei]

i am re reading achro ISO and man the dude is just a villager

@katze how do you plead?

she's a wolf! burn her!

[nebjiamn]

idk man, i know you can argue why would he ever post like this as a wolf


but this reasoning for what seems to be a genuine villa read makes 0 sense to me



the wolfiest thing about katze is pobably their cape read which...I am not sure i follow


@Benneh thoughts on visor?

i think he's v. its not a strong read but it doesn't feel like he's trying to push an agenda into the thread

like, i don't imagine a wolf visor halfway thru day being like "Welp, guess we're lunching cape cause i don't see anything better" regardless of cape's alignment. and then when asking me for more thoughts he just kinda accepts them but still gives ppl time to breathe. i feel like he'd force there to be more than one suspect on his radar atp

[insomnia]

driving humbled me and then turned me even more egotistical because everybody who drives here sucks at driving and now i hate driving

glgl



i wouldn't really feel bad misreading you on post 70 of a game tbh; i currently dislike your vibes, not really something i can go into much detail on if i wanted to and i don't particularly want to anyways

what's stopping me from being a wolf and going 0/2 on purpose i don't actually follow sheeping me on insomnia because im wrong on you iyo?

this felt like a weird line to add in so early, especially when katze didn't seem to have any tangible reason to think achro is a wolf. it's worded in a big shading manner, but there isn't any evidence to support him responding like this. remember when he got asked why achro was a wolf, he could barely explain it. not to mention that it's just a poor point to nitpick imo

it's like he's never seen someone sheeping someone's read before. in this case, katze's read on achro is irrelevant to him sheeping katze on me


feels like it's meant more to make a point of being seen pushing something "big" than him believing in it, but there is plausible deniability that he somehow did believe achro was a wolf on some gut level and he was ramping up on achro, but still, feels weird

there's even more plausible deniability that i straight up misinterpreted the t0an of the post, case could be made that it's an inquisitive tone but i took it more as a shade

[Winston Hughes]

ladd, dya, taffy all picking up townpoints

cuth, benneh going the other way

insomnia is deeep in my null zone - got no feels at all here from 22 posts - worth an iso

[katze]

if there's a tougher wolf, it probably is katze imo

i don't have the best reason and it has plausible deniability, but the reason sounded elite enough (if right) to not make me reconsider my read

well now i want to hear it

i have a feeling ill laugh at it but call it villagery

i am re reading achro ISO and man the dude is just a villager

@katze how do you plead?

im not sure what the pleading emoji has to do with achro but basically you just go and then yeah

ive had him as probably town for a while now i've just been sitting on it because i'm stubborn and still have some doubt

[nebjiamn]

this felt like a weird line to add in so early, especially when katze didn't seem to have any tangible reason to think achro is a wolf. it's worded in a big shading manner, but there isn't any evidence to support him responding like this. remember when he got asked why achro was a wolf, he could barely explain it. not to mention that it's just a poor point to nitpick imo

it's like he's never seen someone sheeping someone's read before. in this case, katze's read on achro is irrelevant to him sheeping katze on me


feels like it's meant more to make a point of being seen pushing something "big" than him believing in it, but there is plausible deniability that he somehow did believe achro was a wolf on some gut level and he was ramping up on achro, but still, feels weird

there's even more plausible deniability that i straight up misinterpreted the t0an of the post, case could be made that it's an inquisitive tone but i took it more as a shade

that sequence is weird in general because achro was the one positing they wouldn't be 0/2 which implies they really think katze is a wolf since he acribed intent to the accuracy

i don't think its a weird add in for katze to then ask "why can't i be a wolf who's wrong"

[Winston Hughes]

perfect timing

Confidence says my feels are right!

Paranoia says catching katze shouldn't be this easy?

[ladd]

i think he's v. its not a strong read but it doesn't feel like he's trying to push an agenda into the thread

like, i don't imagine a wolf visor halfway thru day being like "Welp, guess we're lunching cape cause i don't see anything better" regardless of cape's alignment. and then when asking me for more thoughts he just kinda accepts them but still gives ppl time to breathe. i feel like he'd force there to be more than one suspect on his radar atp

yea that was similarish to my read on him (i also liked his ender villa read at the time)

but i feel like you can apply this to almost anyone so i dunno

[insomnia]

that sequence is weird in general because achro was the one positing they wouldn't be 0/2 which implies they really think katze is a wolf since he acribed intent to the accuracy

i don't think its a weird add in for katze to then ask "why can't i be a wolf who's wrong"

tbh i didn't even read the context that carefully

like i said, it was just something on the backburner that im not sure on rn. i still wanna lunch cape

[Winston Hughes]

Only two kinds of town chop Achro today:

i) a brilliant one

ii) a foolish one

[insomnia]

didn't even wanna lay it out because it can be so easily wrong, but $tat$ in case it's right

[nebjiamn]

tbh i didn't even read the context that carefully

like i said, it was just something on the backburner that im not sure on rn. i still wanna lunch cape

sure

that just doesn't do much for me. i get that you mean it would be weird for katze to be unaware of the idea that someone sheeps them on another player but i just think its a fair point to reference since achro started it with some questionable conditional

[Winston Hughes]

fuuuck me that's a big face...

[insomnia]

my head hurts even trying to make sense of the whole discussion between achro / katze

im not reading allat

[Winston Hughes]

who thinks cuth is town and what are you smoking?

[Winston Hughes]

katze/cuth/visor

obviously i'm wrong

but can someone tell me why?

[Totally not Taffy]

id be very surprised if i got n1ed this game

Why? Who do you expect to be on the top of the wolf hitlist?

and maybe visor too (ur not allowed to make vocab reads on me anymore bro im gonna get snowed so hard by marmot this game)

Which player here is a Marmot alt, or who were you actually thinking of?

Alrighty thx


I re skimmed cape iso and i have a feeling we ll end up lunching him

Maybe rightfully so

I wanted to ask why, but you already explained that later so now it's a reminder to myself to ISO Cape if I get the time. I do agree that it's not like him not to keep posting when under suspicion, he tends to be very feisty. But maybe he came back and I'm just not there yet.

I have no idea how you play as either alignment so I am taking a cautious approach in assigning alignment intentions from other posts. @ladd you are free to quote posts or stances you feel I SHOULD have a take on and I will give one but without much confidence. I can read into everything, but it isn't always the best course to do so early with skilled players.

Cape huh for a wolf buddy. Tbh I would probably just hard bus him for the cred instead of being cute about not being able to read him. Maybe not though.

More misplaced lack of confidence to add to what I said earlier. I just wanted to state that I agree with everything Benneh said about this statement, and it doesn't add up to my (admittedly very limited) view of your wolfing, this early in the game I'd be more inclined to expect you to push somewhere else to distract people from your wolfbuddy. Noting though how you're actually not doing that, so I'm personally inclined to think that if Cape ends up flipping wolf you're probably not his partner.

i am choosing to not answer this

any inconveniences this may cause you may be forwarded to visor

Okay lets dome then.

Vote: katze

This to my sense feels like how wolf katze thinks town achro thinks town katze thinks like.

Let's find out.

Yeehaw and such.

nah

not interested

have a nice day

i'm just going to mentally ignore any posts of yours that are along the lines of "we are thunderdoming on day 1, katze" and carry on with my day

i could go on about how i believe plays like this are just bad for the game health but i'm just going to solve around it instead

if it makes you feel better i do find it hard to believe that you as a villager thinks that this is how i would respond as a wolf, but i'm not weighing that very much into my read on you

I am sorry but if you are going to vote me and then proceed to shade me for several posts and when I ask you to explain your read you say 'no thanks and sorry how this impacts you' then you don't exactly vst to soap box about thread health. If you are unconcerned about how things impact me then I will in turn reinvest that attitude into you. But worse. Because while I am chiller these days and want a fun game for everyone I am not going to sit here and be shaded while I don't understand your perspective with a smile 'golly gee katze I guess that's fine'

If you think I am scum as town then you are wrong, which is chill but you make yourself unfindable and considering you keep mentioning I am scum every other post I find it very relevant to understanding your alignment why it is you do so.

You may of course ignore me if you like. You have no obligation to participate and I don't need it in order to get votes on you. Hopefully someone agrees that 'teehee won't say' isn't conductive to solving anything.

And if not hey, that's life.

But don't preach to me about game health. How sanctimonious can you be.

I think both Achro's defensiveness and Katze's refusal to engage with it are towny for them. Which is annoying for me in Achro's case.

[dyachei]

who thinks cuth is town and what are you smoking?

i actually buy cuth's frustration and give him very small townpoints for it

[Totally not Taffy]

that sequence is weird in general because achro was the one positing they wouldn't be 0/2 which implies they really think katze is a wolf since he acribed intent to the accuracy

i don't think its a weird add in for katze to then ask "why can't i be a wolf who's wrong"

Oh that's funny I actually read that as treating Katze as town bc a wolf wouldn't be "wrong" they'd be pushing a town deliberately.

[nebjiamn]

i actually buy cuth's frustration and give him very small townpoints for it

i wasn't sure what he got upset about most recently but figured i might just have been reading the situation wrong

either way i think cuth's been pretty towny when around