17er Saints and Martyrs

[Raskolnikov]

Visor talk to me about murska

[Jan]

jan no offense, but that's the lamest reason to not vote someone I've ever heard. And I've played with people who have voted mech cleared villagers

if arctic is being wolfy now just vote them now. Don't wait for them to continue being wolfy

You can enjoy your tunnel, but don't ask me if I enjoy the view.

Sorry, not sorry. Cape and you fought last game and you were both villas. I am not doing this again. Not today. Not unless I believe there is an actual wolf rather than ~rand.

[Arctic]

Where is he doing that?

from how he was cycling through susses on benneh/jan/someone else i forgot

[dyachei]

You can enjoy your tunnel, but don't ask me if I enjoy the view.

Sorry, not sorry. Cape and you fought last game and you were both villas. I am not doing this again. Not today. Not unless I believe there is an actual wolf rather than ~rand.

i mean you told me you think he's being wolfy but dont want to vote him. That's not me asking you to tunnel him, it's me asking why you aren't willing to vote someone you're wolf reading

I feel like Im continuously being misunderstood this game and im frustrated. that's not on you guys, it's clearly on me since I'm the one that keeps having problems

I'd rather vote murska than syn though

[Jan]

I am fine with either Logic or Syn dying tbh. Arctic is prolly gonna be resolved in the next 24 anyway

Just to be sure - how confident are you in your syn read?
Because you sold it like a done deal.

And there is no way you can be as confident in your logic read.

[Arctic]

Yating=lunching so it makes perfect sense



Hally makes good posts but some of them give me the creeps. Its a but unfair to them cause i am not sure i could explain why, they just do lol


Everything else aside i dont feel like artic has made much effort to change their reads based in posting? Idk still not revaluating on rask after 48 hours, having no doubt on dya, feel like with the effort they are putting in they should have a more complete world view of the game instead they are pushing a couple of reads hard and thats it


The 2 above arent w/w fwiw and again idc to lunch either of them d1 but if i had to put down money 1 of them is a wolf

if i'm not re-evaluating my reads that says more about the state of people's posting more than it does about me. if you want me to re-evaluate then give me a reason to. the only read i'll admit to being lazy on is rask because they have given some later content i just didn't really think about.

[Murska]

Hello. Just woke up for eod. Yes I'm European.

I'm a town PR, protective.

[Jan]

i mean you told me you think he's being wolfy but dont want to vote him. That's not me asking you to tunnel him, it's me asking why you aren't willing to vote someone you're wolf reading

I feel like Im continuously being misunderstood this game and im frustrated. that's not on you guys, it's clearly on me since I'm the one that keeps having problems

I'd rather vote murska than syn though

He has moved from a village lean basically down to *shrug* I don't know.

Sorry if my wording there was different or obtuse in any way.

[Raskolnikov]

about GH and what I posted yesterday about his chat with Vanta:

It did remind me what he was doing in an hydra game several years ago with my slot (was villa with Tyranno and he was a woof with Zackito): ie take a disconnected villager slot (I was just cramped by the 500 daily posts of the Alison/Mac slot lol) and shake it till it looks like dude isn't playing and is a wolf.

I mean it is obvious Vanta don' t know 80% of the roster, is used to slow games with almost no posting etc. But still GH comes in, and ask for world view in a pressuring maner. Then does nothing with it. I mean aorn Vanta's slot is basically rand. So why bother with it now?
So I figured mentionning it because it's totally in GH's book to spearhead a villa lunch like that. It's not damning but the pattern is there.

Food for thought.

[Arctic]

Gemma has been ~there. I think the weird unsurety from both sides is kinda sus (especially since I sus Jan) but I don't have a strong thought on the subject. I don't know why they townread me for the joke (even though they've explained it now "a silly thing I might do as a villager" is something I'd make a read on but I wouldn't then make it sound strong in thread. Especially with the way they responded to my post as if to be like "don't worry I read your stuff!")

Also I re-iterate that my joke to GH was the height of comedy and I'm sad that no one reacted to it. At least I amuse myself :')

Dya is... very town. I think. (Got there before Ladd =P) I am not super super confident because my history on reading Dya has not been the best, but that being said I don't think I've ever incorrectly townread 'em when they were wolf. More often it's me sussing when they're town. (Or wolf. I am an egalitarian Dya susser.)

But with Ladd now jumping in saying the same thing I'm ~moderately more convinced no matter Ladd's allignment.

i asked you to explain your dya read and you basically just said "they're town" instead of giving any reasoning so thanks for that

i don't really get why ladd townreading them makes them town if ladd is a wolf? wouldn't he want to townread them as w/w? i wouldn't really expect ladd to bus them here

[GeneralHankerchief]

Vote: Gemma

[ladd]

If syb is a wolf i am coming for visor

[Raskolnikov]

Just to be sure - how confident are you in your syn read?
Because you sold it like a done deal.

And there is no way you can be as confident in your logic read.

80% I guess.

Logic looks like wolfy to me too tbh. I don't think any of them cared solving so y.

Now let me think at Murska's most recent post lol

[dyachei]

well if the options are murska or syn, I'm always voting syn here. But maybe those don't have to be the options

unvote

vote: gemma

[GeneralHankerchief]

about GH and what I posted yesterday about his chat with Vanta:

It did remind me what he was doing in an hydra game several years ago with my slot (was villa with Tyranno and he was a woof with Zackito): ie take a disconnected villager slot (I was just cramped by the 500 daily posts of the Alison/Mac slot lol) and shake it till it looks like dude isn't playing and is a wolf.

I mean it is obvious Vanta don' t know 80% of the roster, is used to slow games with almost no posting etc. But still GH comes in, and ask for world view in a pressuring maner. Then does nothing with it. I mean aorn Vanta's slot is basically rand. So why bother with it now?
So I figured mentionning it because it's totally in GH's book to spearhead a villa lunch like that. It's not damning but the pattern is there.

Food for thought.

I backed off because there were townreads of that slot (through meta, amusingly enough)

there's still some discrepancies around it that I want to clear up but the people involved weren't/aren't around so that's gonna be a d2 thing

[Jan]

If syb is a wolf i am coming for visor

No doubt about that.
But in that world where syn is not even really fighting it - why not cut your losses?
You surely don't bus your full team like that but here?! Don't know.

Weird either way.

[ladd]

We are def not killing murska now

I still think killing logic before gh is ehhhh but at least it solves stuff

Still feel syn is the most likely hit and i dunno why there is so much resistance to it tbh shrug.jpg

[dyachei]

We are def not killing murska now

I still think killing logic before gh is ehhhh but at least it solves stuff

Still feel syn is the most likely hit and i dunno why there is so much resistance to it tbh shrug.jpg

so much resistance to it? I feel like GH and I are the only ones that have mentioned being unsure of it

[ladd]

Well maybe not resistance, idk, it just feels weird to me people are not seeing what me and rask are seeing cause a bunch of people were in the last games here


But maybe i am the 1 upside down

[Arctic]

i'll copy ladd but with 99% less effort

v
zack
hally
rask
benneh

light v
ender
jan
ladd?

light w
gh?

benneh maybe too high but their wallpost is tbh probably the villageriest thing in the entire thread

hally because i find myself mindmelding with a lot of their posts, they seem liek they dont give a shit and just push on whatever big villa energy etc

rask kind of occupying the same space just smaller and more unhinged

jan having basically 3 reads this entire game and 2 of them being v charitable v reads is doing ntohing for his wincon if hes a wolf which im fine with for day 1

gh bad tocuh on logic, havnet hugely liked the way hes spent his ofcus so far this game too lazy to elaborate

everyone else nfc

syn had the thing where he basically ignored me when i asked him why he was w reading ender, he did say things later but eh

murska jan w reads them which predisposes me to do the same, they also seem like the kind of player/style id struggle to get a read on, literally zero opinion

vanta maybe their saying they're just going to read ppl based on avatar is actually openwolfing and i shouldnt be giving them a pass idk

so ye none of the lowposter yeets are particularly inpsiring but ig thats par for the course

this does not spark joy

[GeneralHankerchief]

my "resistance" to the Syn wagon is a combination of a) "eh this is rand" and b) me piling on would make it closer to a runaway

[Jan]

well if the options are murska or syn, I'm always voting syn here. But maybe those don't have to be the options

unvote

vote: gemma

sorry can't do that myself.

Gemma should not be here for eod ever. had no traction at any point this game.
I am just not doing this on d1.

I am one of those few people with principles left in ww.

[ladd]

so much resistance to it? I feel like GH and I are the only ones that have mentioned being unsure of it

Lots of people dont seem to want to lunch there to me


But ya resistance was the wrong word

[Raskolnikov]

Vote: Syn

[Jan]

Well maybe not resistance, idk, it just feels weird to me people are not seeing what me and rask are seeing cause a bunch of people were in the last games here


But maybe i am the 1 upside down

I reread parts of (that games) d1 and agree.
But I don't know what to do about it.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

the selfish, conniving little voice in my head wants me to help run Logic up today just so I can see what kind of day/game I'm in for tomorrow

[ladd]

I also could have done a better job explaining, with more examples etcc.. but i didnt really wanna lead today so i got lazy

[Arctic]

every time i see a spoiler i get disappointed when it isn't the asari high command

[Raskolnikov]

Jan, what's your current stance on Logic?

[Raskolnikov]

I also could have done a better job explaining, with more examples etcc.. but i didnt really wanna lead today so i got lazy

hard evidence for l8r