17er Saints and Martyrs

[Vanta Black]

Okay, I said I would rank players by avatar so here it is. Note that I kinda have an aversion to cute. I think I might be repressing some kind of trauma related to a childhood mishap with my mother’s Hummel and Precious Moments figurines. Something I should have got over at my advanced age, but it’s only gotten worse.

1. dyachei
2. benneh
3. rask
4. Hally
5. Logic
6. Murska
7. Arctic
8. Ladd
9. Jan
10. Syn
11. Wisdom
12. GeneralHankerchief
13. Zack
14. Gemma
15. Visor
16. Ender
17. Vanta
Yes, I think this avatar is really lame, but I was in a hurry.

Also, the Org logo as it presents at the top of my computer in a tab looks like a spider. Eek!

[Vanta Black]

Now for some opinions.

Arctic’s entry pinged me, because it was just a “here I am, will play later” but then he continued to post. It just looked like trying too hard. He was immediately voted by Rask and Murska for these posts. They have both gone on to vote somebody else, oddly enough again it’s the same person (Syn). (as of right now) (I think)

Oddly enough I also would kinda like to vote Murska for opportunistic voting. This makes no sense because I think Rask is a villager and a sharp player and kinda wanta sheep Rask myself.

Hally, sorry I said I couldn’t remember any of your posts, because in fact I did remember that one elaborate pee pee poo poo thing. If that is some copypasta I haven’t seen it. NAI, but appreciated. Ya got me. Not voting Hally today.

I also kinda want to OMGUS Logic because it’s really hard for me to believe he honestly thinks I'm a wolf here. I could see his vote as a push, but when it came to who he really really thinks is a wolf? And he ends up on me? I'm not buying it. Logic had the same bad entry dynamic as Arctic, but at least didn’t keep apologizing for it.

While I don’t know that dyachei is wrong I wasn’t wild about the way he kept shading Arctic without putting a vote down, but then he finally did.

So let’s see here, who will it be?

vote: Logic

EOD/SOD falls at a time when I would literally have to stay up all night to be here for it. Which I very nearly have, but there are limits. If I'm still alive tomorrow I promise to do better. I've just been on the back foot the whole of D1 here. If I'm not here, well sorry for my undistinguished D1.

[Vanta Black]

PS if you have any questions about how I rated your avatar, I have notes.

[Jan]

PS if you have any questions about how I rated your avatar, I have notes.

@Vanta Black
Do you know the book my avatar is based on?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The Lies of Locke Lamora

[GeneralHankerchief]

@Zack
@GeneralHankerchief

kill murska

Vote: Murska

(#46)

[ladd]

Okay, well this post is terrible. why would town care about someone in the thread throwing a tiny prod at them, let alone fake this much emotional affect into an indignant reply up to bringing up real life problems? Then there's all the explaining of why you're not contributing, and that last birb part is extra faked to try to lighten the tone

This was really villagery post imo. As a wolf calling out a villager out for faking emotion isnt easy


Its hard to be confidebt cause of low volume but murska seems like a villager who is here to make friends in all their iso

Dont really wanna lunch them

[ladd]

This was really villagery post imo. As a wolf calling out a villager out for faking emotion isnt easy


Its hard to be confidebt cause of low volume but murska seems like a villager who is here to make friends in all their iso

Dont really wanna lunch them

Here not to make friends*

[Jan]

vote: Syn

[Jan]

Should be around between now and EoD if people feel like faking work or having fun.

[dyachei]

We're never voting him today but Ladd is missing a bunch of villager notes for me. And I don't want to Elim logic because everyone always thinks he's wolfy

[dyachei]

Ar tics reads have been so static this game but people don't want to vote him. He hasn't really had a lot of original thoughts too and that's weird for him

[dyachei]

I'm not really interested in elimming syn either because I've seen him do this shit as a villager before. No one says why it's wolfy for him to not engage they just vote him

I do wish he would do more but I don't really think he's a hit

[GeneralHankerchief]

kinda enjoying the concept of this morning EOD

wake up, roll into work, lunch a villager, go about my day without the sword of damocles hanging over me for the rest of it

maybe I should move to Australia

[Jan]

We're never voting him today but Ladd is missing a bunch of villager notes for me. And I don't want to Elim logic because everyone always thinks he's wolfy

People I don't want to kill for reasons:
Ender
Wisdom
Raskolnikov
Dyachei
Logic
Ladd
Jan
Zack
Hally
Benneh

People I am willing to talk about:
Visor
Arctic
Vanta Black
GH
Gemma

People I want:
Syn
Murska

I can see Ladds point on Murska. Not convinced because I think he is reading a playstyle as alignment. (the not here to make friends part)
But I have been focused on the slot with rather negative energy and prefer looking/talking about anywhere else right now.

[dyachei]

People I don't want to kill for reasons:
Ender
Wisdom
Raskolnikov
Dyachei
Logic
Ladd
Jan
Zack
Hally
Benneh

People I am willing to talk about:
Visor
Arctic
Vanta Black
GH
Gemma

People I want:
Syn
Murska

I can see Ladds point on Murska. Not convinced because I think he is reading a playstyle as alignment. (the not here to make friends part)
But I have been focused on the slot with rather negative energy and prefer looking/talking about anywhere else right now.

Talk about arctic

[Jan]

Ar tics reads have been so static this game but people don't want to vote him. He hasn't really had a lot of original thoughts too and that's weird for him

The 2nd half of the game day was mostly an unfun tunnel and everybody involved left that dirty with slight points for emotional overcharge.

[dyachei]

The 2nd half of the game day was mostly an unfun tunnel and everybody involved left that dirty with slight points for emotional overcharge.

It hasn't just been the second half of the game. He's been unwilling to re evaluate all game

[Jan]

Talk about arctic

Not sure how much I can say.

His first half of the day was fumbling any ball he could find and the 2nd half was the two of you yelling at each other.

I don't get a good read on people tunneling each other. it is somewhat easy to show frustration and emotion there because it is simply real as either alignment and taints most of it.

I think the first half felt like bait for wolves and the early thread pressure on him kind of mirrored that impression.
I think murskas thing earlier felt like w!murska is spewing arctic.

And I don't want to talk down the work he has done but my brain has not fully comprehended everything during this gameday and when the fight started I very much started glancing over the posts because I did not want to get involved.
Werewolfgames don't need to be cagefights in my book.

[GeneralHankerchief]

agree with dya on Syn (mostly; Syn could be a hit but it's basically a rand chance imo)

agree with Jan on Arctic. not super interested in going there today, and if Arctic's having a hard time with developing his reads as mafia now, my guess is he's going to continue having a hard time doing so in the future so it should be an easy catch

I am ~kinda here for the next 15-20 minutes trying to plow through my morning dailies at work but should be in full gear by the time eod proper rolls around

(#48)

[Jan]

I'm not really interested in elimming syn either because I've seen him do this shit as a villager before. No one says why it's wolfy for him to not engage they just vote him

I do wish he would do more but I don't really think he's a hit

Rask was fairly convinced and has not said anything different.
Rask was as confident last game we played and both times claimed to have a very accurate read within a post or two.

Last game visor confirmed it right away which makes him ignoring it mostly here is a bad look. (it was a village read last time and a wolfread here).

But he goes on murska instead who I think is a possible partner, but killing a possible partner first is simply stupid.

[GeneralHankerchief]

sup Wisdom

where's your head at right now

[Jan]

agree with dya on Syn (mostly; Syn could be a hit but it's basically a rand chance imo)

I don't see the downside with syn at the moment.

The reaction "lame" felt like somebody folding a bad hand.
If syn is a villager and what we got so far is what we will get all game then I don't mind being wrong. Or rather it is worth the risk I am willing to take.

It is not fancy but d1 almost always comes down to this.

[Jan]

sup Wisdom

where's your head at right now

This is not the droid you were looking for?!

[GeneralHankerchief]

This is not the droid you were looking for?!

they thanked one of my posts from a few minutes ago, figured I might as well invite them in for a proper conversation

(#50 but cap is lifting in 5 minutes)

[Jan]

3 minutes without gh!

I can see clearly now the rain is gone
I can see all obstacles in my way
Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind

[Totally not Taffy]

Some players happily postcapped. Pictured here: the three who stayed at cap-1.

Current Vote Count

Logic (4) : Raskolnikov, Hally, Benneh, Vanta
Syn (4) : Ender, Murska, Ladd, Jan
Murska (3) : Visor, Gemma, GH
GH (1) : Zack
Ender (1) : Syn
Vanta (1) : Logic
Dyachei (1) : Arctic
Arctic (1) : Dyachei
Visor (1) : Wisdom


Vote History
If you made a vote that wasn't counted, please link it to me on discord

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vote: Arctic

vote: Arctic

vote: nebjiamn

Vote: Logic

Vote: logic

Vote: Logic

vote: logic

vote: Visor

Vote: Jan

Vote: EnderWiggin

vote: Raskolnikov

Vote: GH

Vote: Arctic

vote: Enderwiggin

vote: dyachei

vote: EnderWiggin

Vote: GH

Vote: vanta black

Vote: Jan

Vote: Syn

Vote: Syn

Vote: Syn

Vote: Abstain

vote: syn

vote: Arctic

vote: GH

vote: arctic

unvote: Arctic

vote: arctic

Vote: Ender

vote Vanta

Vote: GH

Vote: Logic

vote: logic

Vote: Gemma

Vote: murska

Vote: logic

Vote: Visor

Vote: Murska

vote: Logic

Vote: Murska

vote: Syn

Post Counts

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EoD is in one hour, postcap is lifted, go nuts!

[Jan]

Back to the imperial march it is.

Welcome back GH!

[Wisdom]

sup Wisdom

where's your head at right now

Leaving for class in 5 and will miss EoD

I'm kinda vibing with what's being said about Arctic and Syn.
That leaves Visor/Murska/Vanta/Jan/Hally/Gemma
Wouldn't bet that all 4 wolves are in those 6 but probably 2-3
Kinda wanna take out Jan for no good reason and whoever Ladd just defended, I vibed with that.

I don't like that Visor and Hally haven't gotten a lot of focus, but I haven't seen anything AI either (Visor calling me hard to read for once should be NAI even if it feels wolfy).

[dyachei]

jan no offense, but that's the lamest reason to not vote someone I've ever heard. And I've played with people who have voted mech cleared villagers

if arctic is being wolfy now just vote them now. Don't wait for them to continue being wolfy

[Raskolnikov]

I am fine with either Logic or Syn dying tbh. Arctic is prolly gonna be resolved in the next 24 anyway