17er Saints and Martyrs

[nebjiamn]

idk

I think I'm just turning into a softie in my old age

I don't want to, like, accuse people and be WRONG about it unless I'm certain, because I know when I've been on the receiving end of it in the past it hasn't made me felt good and I don't want to perpetuate that feeling

so like, if I look at it objectively, yeah Visor doesn't look great because he's lacked that joie de vivre (I forget who brought that up earlier but I fully agree) and his pushes have felt limp to this point (Logic, which he dropped without explanation in order to go for Murska near EOD1, Murska himself)

but then, like, oh well what if he's just been super immersed in Elden Ring! video games are fun! more fun than mafia! what if he just wants to have a chill time and I'm contributing to him not wanting to join the thread by being part of the pending pile-on?

it's much less heartache to tell people they're wrong than to tell them they randed wolf

idk, I'm gonna munch on some things and then go back to putting off my Logic reread

the good news is if we're wrong its all hally's fault and we can blame them