17er Saints and Martyrs

[Gemma]

ya the more i think about it the more i feel like i wanna kill gemma but it also feels really dumb to go away from logic

it also feels dumb killing him sorta

ngl i genuienly dont understand anyone entertaining me as wolf here after oed2

fmpov i single handedly got visor killed, no shade to ppl who actually pushed him and created threadstate but if i dont claim there he 100% yeets me and probably finds a way to dodge today too. i realize my saying this makes it whatever but its baffling to me that no one else sees this

[Gemma]

It's okay to feel doubt. I maintain that even if today is not my day, that I need to die before LYLO because my reads have been such utter doodoo this game, and if by some miracle the remaining town(s) think I'm a villager at LYLO, I don't trust myself to vote correctly there. I am a liability, and I suspect there is at least one wolf that is town-reading me, hoping to push through a different town today because the longer I am alive, the more chaos exists in the thread because of the doubt regarding my alignment.

This isn't intended to sound like ATE, this is me putting the town ahead of my own interests.
To paraphrase "my only regret is that I have but one life to give to this town!"

You guys need to find the rest of the scum, guys.

Vote: Logic

jesus christ

i dont really want to v read this kind of thing on principle but

[Vanta Black]

Why?

Right now it's 3am where I am, I have been down to vote Logic all game because I think his interactions have been pretty scummy, and while he looked better today, I've seen that before and it doesn't sway me. He voted for himself! I don't think he's coming back to change that vote. He's probably very sensibly gone to bed. I don't really get self-votes but he said he was doing it for the game state. I might also be down to vote either Gemma or Wisdom but alas, while I might groggily grab my phone in the early hours of the morning to see what's happening closer to EOD, I'm gonna be half asleep and incoherent. No jury would declare me competent.

Gotta say, the thing that really sold it, after everything else:

I only read the first part of the ability, and assumed he just VTed himself.

Well, that now means that every single person that I've had a scumread on (or tinfoil pocket) has been targeted by the scum for death.

F. my life, I'm garbage this game.

This does not fit my recollection that I was his top scumread for a couple of days (I have not been targeted by the scum for death, at least not at night anyhow), which makes me think it wasn't a real scumread ever for Logic.

Okay that's really it for me tonight, thank you for your martyrdom in the name of good.

[Gemma]

are ypi around ladd

i donmt have super muich time

[Gemma]

vote: wisdom

idk this is never happening im just not feeling it on ender rn sorry ladd

[dyachei]

Vote: logic

[Raskolnikov]

Sup

sorry I lost touch with the game smh. Gonna read till EOD.

[Raskolnikov]

Vote: Logic

[EnderWiggin]

I'll try to do some rereads before EOD.

Everything is just a rip me rn.

[EnderWiggin]

Vote: Rask

Obviously lost contact because you lost 2 wolfies on d1/d2 =P

(This is a joke.)

[EnderWiggin]

unrelatedly @EnderWiggin remind me why u are townreading wisdom

I don't remember exactly but I have two sort of thoughts that stuck with me:

1. I remember that Wisdom felt at odds with threadstate a bunch on D1. I thought it was villagery enough for D1 that they went into my townreads.
2. Their early D2 posts felt just really good? I think it was early. It was D2 I remember their takes being ones I felt came from a town.

I think their de-sync with thread was one of the bigger points because on D1 it felt like they were playing a different game in a way I wouldn't expect from a wolf.

[Raskolnikov]

I am reading back but don't think the poe has evolved much tbh. I could use a recap of the claimed PR though (more than murska/gemma?)

[Totally not Taffy]

Rask making sure to get in before this VC so I'd have to find a different joke last minute.

Vote Count

Logic (6) : Benneh, Hally, Logic, Vanta, Dyachei, Raskolnikov
Wisdom (2) : Arctic, Gemma
Vanta (1) : Wisdom
Raskolnikov (1) : Ender

Haven't voted: Ladd, Murska


Vote History

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One last hour with Ladd, enjoy him while you can! (or hammer, if you must)

[Arctic]

no one hammer pls i wanna talk

i meant to do look at some isos after i woke up before class but i overslept so i didn't have time and now here i am

[ladd]

Ill be here in a bit

[Arctic]

yikes

to elaborate on this
the part about syn just seems like a classic w/w read
and the read on rask seems likely to be TMI - why would rask going hard on syn look good otherwise? it seems to be predicated on syn being a wolf even though wisdom's own read on syn is null judging from this post

unless there's some meta history going on here that i don't know about it seems pretty sketchy to me

[Arctic]

It's okay to feel doubt. I maintain that even if today is not my day, that I need to die before LYLO because my reads have been such utter doodoo this game, and if by some miracle the remaining town(s) think I'm a villager at LYLO, I don't trust myself to vote correctly there. I am a liability, and I suspect there is at least one wolf that is town-reading me, hoping to push through a different town today because the longer I am alive, the more chaos exists in the thread because of the doubt regarding my alignment.

This isn't intended to sound like ATE, this is me putting the town ahead of my own interests.
To paraphrase "my only regret is that I have but one life to give to this town!"

You guys need to find the rest of the scum, guys.

Vote: Logic

meh this guy is prob not flipping wolf but what can we do

[EnderWiggin]

I'm actually gonna be crazy here. I'm reading back on things and I wonder if the Syn wagon was actually pure.

[Raskolnikov]

to elaborate on this
the part about syn just seems like a classic w/w read
and the read on rask seems likely to be TMI - why would rask going hard on syn look good otherwise? it seems to be predicated on syn being a wolf even though wisdom's own read on syn is null judging from this post

unless there's some meta history going on here that i don't know about it seems pretty sketchy to me

I do agree, looks like TMI on both Syn's slot and mine.
I could be tempted to vote there too.

[Arctic]

vote: wisdom

idk this is never happening im just not feeling it on ender rn sorry ladd

ender?? do you mean logic??

[EnderWiggin]

(I know requires trusting me when I'm a consensus suspect but idc if this is "things people think about after I get yeeted.")

[Raskolnikov]

Vote: Wisdom

[EnderWiggin]

Ngl my reread just makes me feel worse about Gemma.

[Arctic]

I feel like wisdom is weird / at odds with the thread regardless of her alignment so idk why people are clearing her for this

[ladd]

ngl i genuienly dont understand anyone entertaining me as wolf here after oed2

fmpov i single handedly got visor killed, no shade to ppl who actually pushed him and created threadstate but if i dont claim there he 100% yeets me and probably finds a way to dodge today too. i realize my saying this makes it whatever but its baffling to me that no one else sees this

I think none of that was in your control?

Idk objectively your posts are among the least villagery shrug.jpg

[EnderWiggin]

I feel like wisdom is weird / at odds with the thread regardless of her alignment so idk why people are clearing her for this

The (very limited) times I've seen her wolf I didn't feel like she was at odds with thread nearly as much. But absolutely could be wrong on that.

I do tend to townread "at odds with thread" though.

[ladd]

We are not voting wisdom today

I am not asking anyone to sheep my read there cause its mostly meta, so feel free to evaluate them from tomorrow on but today they arent getting lunched sorry

[EnderWiggin]

i'm mildly concerned with visor cause he feels more 'bouncy' this game and i feel like some of his joke-y posts feel misplaced but it could just be a me thing

and his meta over the last 3 games would really allow him to post this way as a wolf and get away with it but i admit its not much to go on

I know I already townread Benneh but I think I'll put this up as another post that just makes me think he's town this game. (Have fun in F3)

[EnderWiggin]

I'd expect wolf!Visor to still have more presence with this particular roster tbh (also check last game he woofed here, first game Sunbae hosted here in 2023 iirc). works for D1 I guess lol

i like this post. Idk, if rask is a wolf, he just made the game harder on himself than he needed to

Meanwhile it's posts like this that make me sus Dya on this reread.

Propping up Rask's towniness on him townreading Visor is not a strong read but this does feel a little bit like "Yes townread my buddy".

[Arctic]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...46#post6079746

this is a wolfgame i remembered from wisdom when i made the point about how she does pointless distancing with partners, this was the first non-sheep vote she made in this game and it was on a partner