Tarot Mafia

[ladd]

i refuse to believe he shot bop or stett

in that case, what kp was he? i think dya is legit here and the most likely case is that rask was a 3p sk of sorts who thought it was safe to claim his shot since he didn't consider a cross kill option

so we have 1-shot vig and whatever arctic was? i guess it's a really odd post to make if you're not KP, but i don't see kp from him n1 or n2

Shrug

We cant only have dya 1 shot vig and in a flipless game arctic would not make the death flavour post if not kp

[Jan]

i refuse to believe he shot bop or stett

in that case, what kp was he? i think dya is legit here and the most likely case is that rask was a 3p sk of sorts who thought it was safe to claim his shot since he didn't consider a cross kill option

so we have 1-shot vig and whatever arctic was? i guess it's a really odd post to make if you're not KP, but i don't see kp from him n1 or n2

I could see wolves having a redirect.
The post was clumsy enough for someone to read into it.

[insomnia]

ngl, if you won't push for someone or at least give a more concrete path you intend to follow today, i will prob consider you voting a lot more than the previous phases

you want to go maple i assume but there's 3 other wolves. who you looking at?

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

vvv
grr
stett
arctic

very likely v
colonel lubriderm

very special tier of hoping it's 2 villas but it's kinda hard to stick with this without just straight up flipping them*
gemma
knightsofneeee

gth villa
jan
vanta black
Raskolnikov
enderwiggin
dyachei

null
dolby
wisdom
sunbae
benneh
Montmorency
maple

meh
ladd

*this feeling would dissuade if we keep doing good in terms of wolf flips. if we end up missing a ton, i'd revisit there, but def not for next 2-3 days

i intend to follow in this list still, but the logistics of who is more likely than the other im still unsure of. im a bit bummed we've lost like... 3 pretty clear villas last night

i haven't played a ton of closed setups. despite me liking to think im pretty proficient in terms of mechs in mashes, flipless is a bit beyond my understanding

i believe dya is for sure a 1-shot vig, most likely village. jan's explanation would at least account for the lack of equal KP on N1 so im tempted to still trust him

a point that is pretty obvious to me that i see as being discussed is that rask can't possibly have been arsonist. there is no world in which he claims the nightkill as arso the next day esp cuz the iron wasn't put on him yet and he did so pretty early iirc? it makes infinitely more sense to me that his kill was truthful and he assumed he wouldn't get cc'd by our villa vig cuz that was his rightful kill to claim and he didn't consider the villa stacked with him. yoloing that kill for cred, especially when he wasn't a wolf so he can defend himself is pretty odd gameplay to me given he's 3p. if he was wolf, maybe it would make some sense, but he wasn't

IF wisdom is legit and jan is also legit, then i guess another world is possible that the wolves are the ones that have an arsonist. arctic couldn't have been arsonist if wisdom is legit cuz why would there be a villa firefighter and a villa arsonist

pretty puzzling, we might be better off just ignoring the mech aspects that aren't confirmed to us lol

i really wanna kill maple today, im not giving him another day. best he can do is post villagery and maybe i change my mind

and im gonna strengthen my trust on knights as a villager due to bop's pretty confident read that he dropped on knights. i guess i should also consider wisdom, but firefighter is such a lame and unconvincing claim as a wolf that im kinda just buying it ngl

[grr]

I got a ping from @Wisdom

Ah, here we are.

@grr can you explain like I'm 5 what you mean here?

Not sure how this helps you solve me i was just musing. its self-meta. if u care about my meta u kinda need to do your own research anyway so my take doesn't matter. like am i gonna explain to you how i play as a wolf and you're gonna be like "ah that makes sense now I townread you"? I dont think so?

I think it was somewhat in line with what Arctic referenced here:

guess i'm just gonna use this time to talk about some other things

i don't like wisdom's post about the situation regardless of what rask is (i think dya is town either way imo, claim matches too well with what they've been crumbing previously + no real reason to claim here). it feels like TMI that rask is a wolf here, or even if he isn't the lack of real consideration about what's going on doesn't feel great

i haven't spoken about grr yet today but i want it known that i am +1'ing all of the lock town meta reads on him - he is a much more binary player as a wolf and it would be a lot more obvious. he isn't really capable of replicating the back and forth he's had over his reads and his doubt/paranoia on stuff. i can't describe it very well and these all feel like buzzwords, but he is a pretty idiosyncratic player and the way he's been parsing this game particularly with the frustration over being ignored on the newcomb push + his indignation in interactions with rask today are just from town him. i would not reconsider this read until lylo

insomnia's posts are also just too good, even if ladd is town i don't care i just feel like he's been the only person in the group of "strong players" who's been seriously getting his hands dirty and actually parsing that group, would maybe reconsider like the day before lylo but i doubt it. same applies to stett, she has a particular way of questioning people as town where i can tell she cares about the response and her follow ups have been proof of this

i'm actually less sure on ladd being a wolf now that i think wisdom is probably a wolf which is ironic given the earlier sentiment expressed, but ladd was the first person to call out wisdom's claim as probably fake iirc so it's worth thinking about. i would expect at least one between them though

i was going to say that after colonel's post transcripting the neighborhood chat i would have locked him as town but learning that was all fake kind of gave me whiplash and also scares me a little in terms of implications for how good his wolfgame is knowing he can fake all that. i haven't had many other thoughts on his posts today. i'd re-visit him like.. tomorrow, honestly? maybe the day after

sunbae i am kinda townreading cuz i honestly just believe the unconvincing self-meta wall. like they expected it to be not convincing if they are a wolf. when i'm town i have a habit of doing the same thing and just posting it anyway because i know it's true, and i don't bother so much when i'm a wolf. i also don't really feel like they have an agenda and the restless urge to do something that strong wolf players have tends to be pretty hard to ignore, and that's what he's done this game if he is a wolf. i find it much easier to just be happy about doing nothing when i'm town than when i'm a wolf, most people probably know this feeling too. is this gonna stop you guys killing him later - probably not, and i don't expect it to either, so this one is more of a hero townread that i fully expect you guys to ignore

montmorency actually, uh, yeah still no clue honestly. i find his posting very null. i've seen the arguments about his eod1 seeming uninformed and there seems to be some meta involved which i nodded along to, but i think this may need to be reconsidered if rask is a wolf too

benneh i think kinda falls into a similar place to sunbae for me (quite unhelpful, i know) but i don't really think the way he's playing is super sustainable as a wolf? i know that like, no one is really trying to kill him but going back to the restless urge thing, it seems like if he is a wolf he's perfectly happy about just letting villagers clear each other which is inevitably going to result in his untimely boxing in. dunno. i think he's had fine posts today, i don't agree with the ender push but i think his last push on rask seemed the most grounded thing presented today. i'm running out of people to call a wolf though so uhm i guess he's just a wolf anyway. rip!

think i've more or less spoken about everyone else

i have found knights and gemma distinctly unimpressive today (moreso knights, i still believe gemma is spewed) but if we keep missing killing people who aren't either of these two, the world where all of the wagons on day 1 were wolves is worth considering, because wolves stacking on syn there is like, pretty a pretty reasonable explanation for things. so re-visit them if the above people keep flipping town i guess

but as it stands my poe would probably be

jan (replace with colonel if rask is wolf)
dolby
mont
vanta
benneh
ladd
maple
wisdom
rask

anyhow here is my answer:

I have a very specific wolfmeta (that i personally characterize as just, pretty -EV for my team most of the time as i tend to be unaware of the ulterior motives that i SHOULD be having or i'm just not on top of it. I bus my teammates when I should be wolfsiding. I shield them when I should be bussing. Obviously I'm not like, completely clueless but its a tendency).

Ig the main thing is that i do not really like wolfing so one of my bigger tendencies is that I tend to overcommit to stuff. Because I just want to get it over with. In turbos I regularly snapvote in lylos as a wolf, because it's faster. I tend to redcheck some random peeps just cuz it accelerates the game. It doesn't always make sense but has certainly cost me wins. I commit to reads harder, because it feels faster.

So, putting myself into a long drawn out struggle to make decisions and documenting this in the thread is probably one of the things I do struggle most with as a wolf. Would I do that in the best wolfgame of my life? probably? Would I be having the best wolfgame in my life in this PL? Probably not? LOL

Hence, your observation "grr is fencesitting" is actually towny for me, when I probably would have made a call as a wolf much earlier. It's just an immediate thought that is sparked in my mind when I read something like that.

I also don't like being called out for stuff as wolf and waffling is something in general i get called out on in every villa game so like. I'm just be less likely to do it. Why say "idk" when i can just say "i think im going this way here" in that instance, btw. this goes especially, when after the flip, and we still assume dyachei to be town, both of these look like villagers with TMI to me. What exactly would I be having trouble with deciding as a wolf here?

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btw wisdom i am also pretty sure you have seen me "not solving" (an accusation you had to me) as a villager. I know aren't good at reading me, but we actually play a lot so this feels so out of the field I am actually more than confused that you don't at least acknowledge that being like this is at least normal for me? (I will also say I don't super accept this as its very superficial. I have been solving. Have I been solving in a helpful way? Probably not. If you want to call me lazily "yeah he ain't insomnia and doesn't have cool comprehensive readslists and he also didn't have walls of quotes" sure. But If you actually read my posts it should be visible I have been trying to discern people's alignments pretty much all game. That's solving.)

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I got a question from @Sunbae, who asked for my reads on ladd, benneh, vanta. wolf, idk, town.

this is without me having thought more about the game yet tbh. if you actually want like, opinions that you think are reliable I gotta disappoint. Can I ask why ask specifically on benneh? I didn't really try to read him and leave it to dya and you (and maybe ladd, or literally anyone else), hence the question. I lean into just calling him a villager, because he's cool and i like him but I also do it, when he is a wolf which is why I havent really been trying that this game lol. Ig all I can say is that benneh is capable of obvtowning and he hasn't done that. Does that make him a wolf? idk. It didn't in the hydra game we played a few years ago where you were the one that looked more... energetic? while he didn't really, if i remember correctly at least, which is honestly one of the reasons I'm kinda squinting at you more. But I have also grasped dyachei seems to trust you more tho. In that case I'd trust that more over my own take.

[dyachei]

Dya, Jan, Knights, Grr:

Can I get your thoughts on Benneh, Ladd, and Vanta please?

Benneh prob v, ladd I keep flipflopping on but right now i think w, and vanta is likely newer villager here and having a hard time parsing what looks to be role madness

[Jan]

Grr is because I've had just so many people tell me Grr is a villager. Knights I made a long post on a bit ago



I know Bop mentioned them falling off day 2 but they also seemed to just be busy irl and I wont worry unless they fall off today too?


With Jan, I think he's claimed jailkeeper right?
@Jan is that right? Standard jailkeeper now inverted?

Yes, I was Jailkeeper going into the game ( protect + block a target).
I got inverted last night and am now a ToS Jailkeeper/Jailor.

You asking me this feels like such a filler question. it is within my last 10 posts and there is no way you didn't read them or are stupid enough to not comprehend them.

[Sunbae]

Yes, I was Jailkeeper going into the game ( protect + block a target).
I got inverted last night and am now a ToS Jailkeeper/Jailor.

You asking me this feels like such a filler question. it is within my last 10 posts and there is no way you didn't read them or are stupid enough to not comprehend them.

Sure, of course. That's probably because I was reading day 2 and saw this post

My role does have an uncommon stipulation as well tbh.

and realized during your explanation today of jk stett over newcomb n1 and dya n2 (and your full claim) that you didn't really mention there was a stip during your choices. you just claimed normal jk who is now a different type of jk due to inversion. So I wanted to have you confirm that you were a normal jk.

Now im gonna go back to bed and ponder this some

[Jan]

Sure, of course. That's probably because I was reading day 2 and saw this post



and realized during your explanation today of jk stett over newcomb n1 and dya n2 (and your full claim) that you didn't really mention there was a stip during your choices. you just claimed normal jk who is now a different type of jk due to inversion. So I wanted to have you confirm that you were a normal jk.

Now im gonna go back to bed and ponder this some

Yes. I tend to not claim info that helps wolves and does not help the village.
It is a bad habbit of mine.

I was a normal jk with a minor twist/downgrade and that downgrade is still there.

[Gemma]

sup jan

do u think we're bluhblublughbulmgluhbuhbuhluh for sussing ladd

i own a home of my very own now apparently

whoshamammythunkit

[Wisdom]

I got a ping from @Wisdom



Not sure how this helps you solve me i was just musing. its self-meta. if u care about my meta u kinda need to do your own research anyway so my take doesn't matter. like am i gonna explain to you how i play as a wolf and you're gonna be like "ah that makes sense now I townread you"? I dont think so?

I think it was somewhat in line with what Arctic referenced here:




anyhow here is my answer:

I have a very specific wolfmeta (that i personally characterize as just, pretty -EV for my team most of the time as i tend to be unaware of the ulterior motives that i SHOULD be having or i'm just not on top of it. I bus my teammates when I should be wolfsiding. I shield them when I should be bussing. Obviously I'm not like, completely clueless but its a tendency).

Ig the main thing is that i do not really like wolfing so one of my bigger tendencies is that I tend to overcommit to stuff. Because I just want to get it over with. In turbos I regularly snapvote in lylos as a wolf, because it's faster. I tend to redcheck some random peeps just cuz it accelerates the game. It doesn't always make sense but has certainly cost me wins. I commit to reads harder, because it feels faster.

So, putting myself into a long drawn out struggle to make decisions and documenting this in the thread is probably one of the things I do struggle most with as a wolf. Would I do that in the best wolfgame of my life? probably? Would I be having the best wolfgame in my life in this PL? Probably not? LOL

Hence, your observation "grr is fencesitting" is actually towny for me, when I probably would have made a call as a wolf much earlier. It's just an immediate thought that is sparked in my mind when I read something like that.

I also don't like being called out for stuff as wolf and waffling is something in general i get called out on in every villa game so like. I'm just be less likely to do it. Why say "idk" when i can just say "i think im going this way here" in that instance, btw. this goes especially, when after the flip, and we still assume dyachei to be town, both of these look like villagers with TMI to me. What exactly would I be having trouble with deciding as a wolf here?

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btw wisdom i am also pretty sure you have seen me "not solving" (an accusation you had to me) as a villager. I know aren't good at reading me, but we actually play a lot so this feels so out of the field I am actually more than confused that you don't at least acknowledge that being like this is at least normal for me? (I will also say I don't super accept this as its very superficial. I have been solving. Have I been solving in a helpful way? Probably not. If you want to call me lazily "yeah he ain't insomnia and doesn't have cool comprehensive readslists and he also didn't have walls of quotes" sure. But If you actually read my posts it should be visible I have been trying to discern people's alignments pretty much all game. That's solving.)

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I got a question from @Sunbae, who asked for my reads on ladd, benneh, vanta. wolf, idk, town.

this is without me having thought more about the game yet tbh. if you actually want like, opinions that you think are reliable I gotta disappoint. Can I ask why ask specifically on benneh? I didn't really try to read him and leave it to dya and you (and maybe ladd, or literally anyone else), hence the question. I lean into just calling him a villager, because he's cool and i like him but I also do it, when he is a wolf which is why I havent really been trying that this game lol. Ig all I can say is that benneh is capable of obvtowning and he hasn't done that. Does that make him a wolf? idk. It didn't in the hydra game we played a few years ago where you were the one that looked more... energetic? while he didn't really, if i remember correctly at least, which is honestly one of the reasons I'm kinda squinting at you more. But I have also grasped dyachei seems to trust you more tho. In that case I'd trust that more over my own take.

@grr

I think you misunderstood both what I asked for and what I found wolfy. But I read this anyway and a bit more of your ISO and I think you're probably town anyway.

You're being weird tho. We haven't played a normal game in like 3 years, and I couldn’t read you back then, I don't remember your meta at all. You also sussed me for calling you town when you were solvy d1 and now you're sussing me for calling you wolf when you were fencesitting d2, lol. I don't think either of that is AI though, that's probably how you are.

And a hot take but I don't think self meta is wolf indicative amongst familiar players. I usually tell the truth about my perception of my meta when I'm wolfing and when I'm towning and so does most others. It's easy to look up or get outted so people rarely lie about it.

[EnderWiggin]

I exist! Kinda.

I just want to say that it's amazing how you can literally label a bunch of hardware with The Exact Location and people will still somehow swap two of them without telling you.

[EnderWiggin]

I know Stett is dead but I feel it important to respond to this:

@EnderWiggin does your role indicate you should give feedback?

Yes. It should have.

Or well... It doesn't explicitly say Stett should have got feedback but I find it very hard to believe she wouldn't have.

Which does make me wonder if I got N1 blocked for some reason :/

[Wisdom]

I'm starting to suspect ladd is a wolf who's pocketing/whiteknighting me tbh, but it's hard to explain why

But when I think that there's 3-4 wolves in 14 players (right?) and that he's alive it's easy to think he's a wolf.

Like, the easiest world is it's like Gemma/Vanta/Dolby/Monte but it's never that easy. Ladd's easy to tinfoil, and then we have Knights and Benneh who I've got no clue on, and Ender who I can't remember a single d2 post from but I read he claimed pr.

Dya's town. Grr's probably town. I still want to think Jan is my D1 Town Clear and won't re-evaluate unless alive end game, if he's town pr he'll just die eventually anyway. And Maple who I don't know what his deal is.

My goal for today is finding 8 villagers, I have 3 right now +2 potential pr's. I'm soon done with work so can put some more work in when I get home.

[EnderWiggin]

tbh I still want to kill Wisdom Ender and Maple

I did no work overnight beyond a crackpot idea that Rask and Monty are on a neut team together and that's what prompted Monty's claim but I'm here for wolves, not neuts

I mean I'm ~moderately sure Monty is Neut.

Wolf wouldn't do that play and feels weird for a villa.

The question is whether they were a neut we wanna kill or not. Which is much more a shrug question and tbh idc to kill em today at the very least.

[EnderWiggin]

I'm starting to suspect ladd is a wolf who's pocketing/whiteknighting me tbh, but it's hard to explain why

But when I think that there's 3-4 wolves in 14 players (right?) and that he's alive it's easy to think he's a wolf.

Like, the easiest world is it's like Gemma/Vanta/Dolby/Monte but it's never that easy. Ladd's easy to tinfoil, and then we have Knights and Benneh who I've got no clue on, and Ender who I can't remember a single d2 post from but I read he claimed pr.

Dya's town. Grr's probably town. I still want to think Jan is my D1 Town Clear and won't re-evaluate unless alive end game, if he's town pr he'll just die eventually anyway. And Maple who I don't know what his deal is.

My goal for today is finding 8 villagers, I have 3 right now +2 potential pr's. I'm soon done with work so can put some more work in when I get home.

Didn't you have a pretty good townread on me from D1?

[EnderWiggin]

let me guess

maple is responsible for a part of tonight's massacre

"I self resolve" can very easily be code for "I have KP I need to unload before you wagon me" tbh.

Which I should know more and I feel kinda dumb for not having thought of that yesterday when Manti was claiming self-resolving.

[Wisdom]

I'm starting to suspect ladd is a wolf who's pocketing/whiteknighting me tbh, but it's hard to explain why

But when I think that there's 3-4 wolves in 14 players (right?) and that he's alive it's easy to think he's a wolf.

Like, the easiest world is it's like Gemma/Vanta/Dolby/Monte but it's never that easy. Ladd's easy to tinfoil, and then we have Knights and Benneh who I've got no clue on, and Ender who I can't remember a single d2 post from but I read he claimed pr.

Dya's town. Grr's probably town. I still want to think Jan is my D1 Town Clear and won't re-evaluate unless alive end game, if he's town pr he'll just die eventually anyway. And Maple who I don't know what his deal is.

My goal for today is finding 8 villagers, I have 3 right now +2 potential pr's. I'm soon done with work so can put some more work in when I get home.

I forgot about Insomnia and Sunbae. Put them in no clue but I know others town reads them.

Gemma seems like the carton "lots of sus little push" wolf from what I've read. She's probably the best slot to solve atm.

[Wisdom]

"I self resolve" can very easily be code for "I have KP I need to unload before you wagon me" tbh.

Which I should know more and I feel kinda dumb for not having thought of that yesterday when Manti was claiming self-resolving.

That was 100% what I thought he was doing tbh

[EnderWiggin]

Ah fuck it. I can't be asked to wait.

I was jailkeeper and am now jailkeeper.
which is just very funny.

n1 protected stett (I expected Newcomb would only be targeted if wolves have strongman and stett was the dodgekill)
good chance that I actually got a protection on stett if we look at 3 kills tonight.

n2 protected dya in case they were bluffing about part of their role and are odd night vig).
this does tell us that dya did not do any of the kills inc ase anyone was paranoid for some reason.

...

Does Jailkeeper block non-killing actions?

If so (Respectfully) fuck you.

[Wisdom]

Didn't you have a pretty good townread on me from D1?

Yeah but no d1 read matters except Jan

[EnderWiggin]

Yeah but no d1 read matters except Jan

Sure.

But it feels sus for you to go from "I townread Ender pretty hard" to not really making a read on me D2 and then D3 being like "I don't remember their posts so they can go in the sorta sus pile."

[Wisdom]

Ah fuck it. I can't be asked to wait.

I was jailkeeper and am now jailkeeper.
which is just very funny.

n1 protected stett (I expected Newcomb would only be targeted if wolves have strongman and stett was the dodgekill)
good chance that I actually got a protection on stett if we look at 3 kills tonight.

n2 protected dya in case they were bluffing about part of their role and are odd night vig).
this does tell us that dya did not do any of the kills inc ase anyone was paranoid for some reason.

This was my exact reasoning n1

Bop I targeted because he too seemed like a not-factional target since he didn't claim PR (neighbor doesn't count). I was wrong about that one tho, or blocked.

I my target was jk'd n1 and I got rb'd n2 this is my worst pr game ever

[EnderWiggin]

I expect Wisdom, Ender, and Maple to all come in pushing me and/or Monty

Big question for me for how I view EOD is 1. Is Rask a killing or jester role. I think almost certainly a SK variant. In that case I actually really like Gemma’s EoD. Mafia have probably clocked that Rask is SK by that point and I don’t think that Gemma would be saying that they were saying about the claims then. Same applies to a way lesser extent to Monty. I kind of don’t like Vantas vote on Dya looking at it in retrospect bc like, any town should recognize that Rask looks worse but I also think that Vanta was kinda disconnected from the thread in that moment so it’s probably fine

I think Ender can turn it around but bro is probs wolfing, more at 11

What if I push Maple?

And then keep the pushing you for tomorrow.

Gotta savour the good stuff right?

[Wisdom]

Sure.

But it feels sus for you to go from "I townread Ender pretty hard" to not really making a read on me D2 and then D3 being like "I don't remember their posts so they can go in the sorta sus pile."

I don't think you had even posted when I ISO'd you yesterday.

[EnderWiggin]

Well, I actually am a Lover. But I'm not aligned with Rask.

Why did I lie about Rask? Chaos. He was dying, and shouldn't, but what was left. I also wanted to find out whether there would be a bandwagon effect on him. Also, Lovers have been some of my funniest roles.

I think stetter may have been arsoned. What was @Wisdom doing?

@Ender claimed to have targeted stetter N1 with an unspecified power, which needs elaboration.

I definitely would try to claim I did something to the person I doused right before lighting them on fire.

That sounds like a great career move.

/s

[EnderWiggin]

nobody claiming any card thus far, to the surprise of no one

Tempted to claim my card just to be contrary =P

[Dolby]

Wisdom what is your read on Maple? Tbh even though it isn’t sbpc, I honestly feel that your Gemma/Dolby/Vanta/Monte world is kinda just the easiest miselims right now? Like, I think all four slots are town

Sup Ender I’m willing to give you a chance and you’re my lowest priority of my scimreads rn so I’m just gonna leave you to do your thing for probs an hour

[EnderWiggin]

Wisdom what is your read on Maple? Tbh even though it isn’t sbpc, I honestly feel that your Gemma/Dolby/Vanta/Monte world is kinda just the easiest miselims right now? Like, I think all four slots are town

Sup Ender I’m willing to give you a chance and you’re my lowest priority of my scimreads rn so I’m just gonna leave you to do your thing for probs an hour

Thank you for the grace your Excellency.

I shall be sure to make sure my serfs return the tithe within your hour. There shall be not an ear of wheat in my fields.

[EnderWiggin]

are we? rask was effectively a misyeet

Rask was a villa for wagonomics but hardly a misyeet.

I'd bet on him being a non-townsided neut. Arsonist/SK/something else malignant.

The reason I voted him early on D2 and stuck there (Before the claims) was because he read more like his wolf play than his town play (in that he starts to care more about psoitioning and the reads list was probably the biggest sign of this.

And yes I said nothing much about this yesterday but in my defense my energy was at 0 from just catching up.

If you gave me a choice between a second wolf and Rask the evil Neut, I'd take the second wolf. But Rask the Evil Neut is ~fine.

Because we gotta vote him out at some point.

(That being said I actually think he was truthful about the shot.)

[Wisdom]

Is there a vote count somewhere?