Bolañafia

[Vaimes]

sad

i like rask

also i'm at page 9 and taking a break

i want to kill visor so that i'm the only player with a v-start name

[Raskolnikov]

Rask.

lololol. would be hilarious if they actually have a shot

[EnderWiggin]

sad

i like rask

also i'm at page 9 and taking a break

i want to kill visor so that i'm the only player with a v-start name

I think there are a lot more sus people than Rask. But Rask exists in a place where their flip would tell me a bunch about the game state.

[Vaimes]

don't clown me but i think rask being ping'd by syn's hiiiii is. not a good read but the act itself is something i have done as a villager and never thought to fake as a wolf

(i'm a bad wolf)

i think i had other things i liked about him too but i cannot be assed to towncase him at this moment

[EnderWiggin]

Anyway I'm sleep.

[Vaimes]

Visor
Maple
Cuthillius
Syn
Wisdom
-
Taffy

i would kill any of these

taffy is...she had a post that i think is a strong indicator for her being a villager but i also don't want to pin all of my hopes and dreams on one post, so. not my first priority by any stretch

feels like a snooze-inducing list but so it goes

[Raskolnikov]

I think there are a lot more sus people than Rask. But Rask exists in a place where their flip would tell me a bunch about the game state.

would prolly tell u Wisdom is a wolf

[ladd]

Visor
Maple
Cuthillius
Syn
Wisdom
-
Taffy

i would kill any of these

taffy is...she had a post that i think is a strong indicator for her being a villager but i also don't want to pin all of my hopes and dreams on one post, so. not my first priority by any stretch

feels like a snooze-inducing list but so it goes

you dont seem to like meta but if it helps i think syn seems a lot more in their village meta than their wolf meta and i would be kidna surprised if they are a wolf. ender/rask can probably confirm

i would kill hally before syn just for that post about maple




taffy is a low volume player ime so dont expect a ton of activity but they are capable of posting very good and making themselves ~unlunchable

[Vaimes]

i'm willing to roll with town!syn worlds For Now

we're probably going to kill someone i don't want to kill so i'm making peace with that in advance

can't imagine how eod is gonna go with this slow-ass forum

[ladd]

i'm willing to roll with town!syn worlds For Now

we're probably going to kill someone i don't want to kill so i'm making peace with that in advance

can't imagine how eod is gonna go with this slow-ass forum

everyone is complaining but it works fine for me lmao


whats your read on hally?

[Raskolnikov]

don’t threaten me with a good time

this one @ladd?

[ladd]

@rask nope, this one:

i reread maple’s posts and they kind of feel like bs to me but i’m not sure if it’s just manti-isms lol


i don’t get what this means? it feels like maybe wolfy perspective of thinking about who could be pushable instead of just… trying to solve and seeing who you actually wolf read
@Maple can you unpack what you meant here?

i have a bit of trouble believing the bolded is a real thought, cause it's something really stretchy to accuse manti of (like i said why would manti openly post who could be pushable itt as a wolf)

there is the excuse that its early game in a slow game so not much to off on but it's still giving me some bad vibes

below maple post hally was talking about for ease of reference:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Vaimes, I'm curious -- you're evidently new to the org, but where have you played mafia before previously? You mentioned knowing cuth, so I'm just wondering.

I considered opening with a tunnel on waza but everyone, including ladd, thinks his opening here was at minimum *fine* so I'll just sit here and pout instead. Mm, really there's a LOT of slots here that I could see myself opening up with a tunnel on, but I'd rather meow at my boyfriend instead of getting into things this early.

not sure how I would link them yet but the bolded in wisdom post also felt weirdly aggressive compared to the rest of wisdom tone all game:

Didn't say I had solved the game already, but I felt like I got into a flow despite not posting much. Today I have a headache and a sore throat and people are throwing wrenches into my reads so we'll see where I end up.

I liked the RaskWazaLadd team but Hally is being dumb which makes me nervous

But sure let's say CapeEnderTaffyHallySyn are town that leaves like CuthVaimes left to solve too see if above world is wrong. Feels like I'm forgetting someone tho

I dont see what hally would have done to be called "being dumb"

[ladd]

waza 180s wisdom read:



hally 180s wisdom read:



ladd 180s wisdom read:

[Raskolnikov]

@rask nope, this one:



i have a bit of trouble believing the bolded is a real thought, cause it's something really stretchy to accuse manti of (like i said why would manti openly post who could be pushable itt as a wolf)

there is the excuse that its early game in a slow game so not much to off on but it's still giving me some bad vibes

below maple post hally was talking about for ease of reference:






not sure how I would link them yet but the bolded in wisdom post also felt weirdly aggressive compared to the rest of wisdom tone all game:



I dont see what hally would have done to be called "being dumb"

go on. it's actually hally/maple/wisdom and wisdom is being upset at hally because she felt the need to put a preemptive bus itt? smtg like that?

[ladd]

go on. it's actually hally/maple/wisdom and wisdom is being upset at hally because she felt the need to put a preemptive bus itt? smtg like that?

nah, that stuff ~never actually happens for real



i just think wisdom toan in that hally remark was bit off place is all for now

[Maple]

i reread maple’s posts and they kind of feel like bs to me but i’m not sure if it’s just manti-isms lol


i don’t get what this means? it feels like maybe wolfy perspective of thinking about who could be pushable instead of just… trying to solve and seeing who you actually wolf read
@Maple can you unpack what you meant here?

amusingly, my first instinct here is to say "hally should know better than to call something like this wolfy perspective from me because i talk like that all the time", but having thought it through overnight that's pretty unfair from me.

Especially because, in hindsight, i know ive recieved questionmarks about this sort of thing pretty commonly and recently too.

so sadly ive thought my way out of making this our jumping off point, sorry.

To answer your question: you know that thing I do where I lock someone into a conversation that goes in circles for like 2 hours over something that isn't even particularly wolfy but is generally some sort of logical misstep? im talking about that, hally. i like pushing people. i like trolling people. i like getting the entire game wound up about some stupid bullshit because it makes every party involved easier to read -- and more importantly, it's a lot of fun!

So while I *do* think you're pushable off this line of inquiry, it seems like a lot of work, and with the way I -- frankly -- have not at all been villagery today, I think initiating a dome with you this early has high odds of getting me killed today.

I think what's more interesting, i suppose, is me thinking about what ladd's defense of me here means. I honestly sort of expect to be given a d1 pass by virtue of being >randv by *meta* right now. I see my name floating a bit, and its honestly a little funny that the people who know me less aren't taking that opportunity. But anyway, that's not important. I think I'm going to go back to bed now, or at least try to. I'm very eepy.....

[Raskolnikov]

meanwhile here is a short yet vital introduction to Shakespeare (look what u have done with ur gif wall)

[Maple]

I think there are a lot more sus people than Rask. But Rask exists in a place where their flip would tell me a bunch about the game state.

such as? you got me all interested :3

[Maple]

someone else had asked me a question but i forget who or what but all i remember is not really giving a shit about it and ignoring it so if i ignored your question thats probably why

[Maple]

oki back to bed!

[Raskolnikov]

someone else had asked me a question but i forget who or what but all i remember is not really giving a shit about it and ignoring it so if i ignored your question thats probably why

it was me but nvm, get back to me l8r or don't. emergencies always get back to you, one way or another

[Totally not Taffy]

the math ain't mathing, unless you're joking. or just talking about day 1

if out of all the posts you've made so far, zero of them will help me read you, what am i to do? cross my fingers and make it a future problem? why shouldn't everyone be readable day 1? i'm not asking for "locked and never rescinding" levels of towniness from you

The thing is, one of Ender's defining traits as a player is that he's exceedingly aware of his own play and what ppl read him on and he's really good at emulating his town play as a wolf. The one thing I haven't seen him be able to copy is that, if he's the first player in a game to catch a wolf and he's sure of himself, you can tell bc his posts sound giddy and he never quite gets that when he's bussing (or pushing a town for that matter) but ofc that's not going to be useful in every game. Other than that it's really mostly about how he interacts with flips, who he pushes when etc but that usually only becomes apparent after a few flips.

Atm I'm thinking town mostly bc we've had an overnight shift in wagons where most votes are for Wisdom while Wisdom thinks Rask's the wolf and Ender says he wants to shoot Rask bc it'll help him solve Wisdom (and others, he didn't phrase it this way but that's what I'm taking from it).

I think if he was partnered with either one he'd go about it differently. If they're v/v I could see him give this answer as either alignment but I don't believe they're v/v.

[Totally not Taffy]

someone else had asked me a question but i forget who or what but all i remember is not really giving a shit about it and ignoring it so if i ignored your question thats probably why

Someone asked what pinged you from Waza's SoD that nobody else was picking up on and I thought that was a good question so I'ma repeat it.

[Cape90]

I find it odd that Wisdom basically admitted that they were relying on waza TMIing me in order to townread me.

Waza lock towning me for like one thing I did day 1 seems really strange to me tbh.

[Cape90]

I think Rask is town now

[Totally not Taffy]

My first impression of Syn was that it was towny for him to be there at SoD making jokes and generally seeming happy to be here given how his past wolf rands on this site have all been bad experiences for him.

So it pinged me when Rask called him pockety especially bc Rask claimed a few games ago to have some kind of godread on Syn so either, Syn is town and he should see that, or Syn is a wolf and he should have confidence in his read and vote him for the pocketing, or Syn can't be read from those posts and he should also know that and not post what then looks like shade.

And Wisdom calls him out on that which was good, but then she made a readslist with only two actual reads which was a bad townread on Ender (not bad bc Ender was wolfy but bad bc she was townreading him for stuff nobody who's played with Ender a lot should read him on) and then just "Rask wolf (yes)" and it just looked like that readslist existed only for the purpose of putting the wolfread on Rask in thread which made me think I was wrong and she's a wolf who saw a townie do a scummy thing and is happy to make it into a read.

Then Syn called that readslist towny for her and it made me insecure so I wanted to see how things would progress.

But they've actually both become wolfier.

Rask wants the Wisdom wagon to be "just teasing her for her birthday" and says he needs to reread her while voting Cuth but then when Ender wants to shoot him that's going to definitely reveal her as a wolf. This looks like a wolf who knows Wisdom is going to flip v and wants to keep his own hands clean but also wants others to vote there.

Wisdom has not fleshed out her wolfread on Rask but he's still a wolf however she's voting Ladd for potentially being teamed with him (and for why he's voting her)

Idk but it's one of them and I'd like to vote the correct one.

[Totally not Taffy]

My first impression of Syn was that it was towny for him to be there at SoD making jokes and generally seeming happy to be here given how his past wolf rands on this site have all been bad experiences for him.

So it pinged me when Rask called him pockety especially bc Rask claimed a few games ago to have some kind of godread on Syn so either, Syn is town and he should see that, or Syn is a wolf and he should have confidence in his read and vote him for the pocketing, or Syn can't be read from those posts and he should also know that and not post what then looks like shade.

And Wisdom calls him out on that which was good, but then she made a readslist with only two actual reads which was a bad townread on Ender (not bad bc Ender was wolfy but bad bc she was townreading him for stuff nobody who's played with Ender a lot should read him on) and then just "Rask wolf (yes)" and it just looked like that readslist existed only for the purpose of putting the wolfread on Rask in thread which made me think I was wrong and she's a wolf who saw a townie do a scummy thing and is happy to make it into a read.

Then Syn called that readslist towny for her and it made me insecure so I wanted to see how things would progress.

But they've actually both become wolfier.

Rask wants the Wisdom wagon to be "just teasing her for her birthday" and says he needs to reread her while voting Cuth but then when Ender wants to shoot him that's going to definitely reveal her as a wolf. This looks like a wolf who knows Wisdom is going to flip v and wants to keep his own hands clean but also wants others to vote there.

Wisdom has not fleshed out her wolfread on Rask but he's still a wolf however she's voting Ladd for potentially being teamed with him (and for why he's voting her)

Idk but it's one of them and I'd like to vote the correct one.

[Totally not Taffy]

oh great sorry for the double post

[Wisdom]

would prolly tell u Wisdom is a wolf

Well you've never been wrong on me before ((((:

[Wisdom]

nah, that stuff ~never actually happens for real



i just think wisdom toan in that hally remark was bit off place is all for now

I mean I probably have a fever but
She sounded so confident in her initial town read on me
I felt like we bonded
I feel betrayed