Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
No, revolution implies radical change, contrary to evolution which implies gradual change. I'm sure you've heard of revolutions in software industry, car industry, science and so on. When it comes to political revolutions, it's about changing the those in power. Those in power rarely give up that power and that's why it comes to bloodshed. That's common for all political revolutions around the world and throughout history.
The implications that Marx makes are not those of a peaceful revolution.

Those links you provided state that it isn't known how much people died in Soviet Unions and that estimates vary from 3.5 to 60 millions.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NOTE4.HTM

Sixty million is a fairly commonly accepted figure for the Soviet Union.

Of course, you assumed that the figure of 60 million is true (somehow I thought you would ).
Somehow, I assume you would not.

And allow me please to have my doubts about anyone having reliable information about death toll during communism in China.
I didn't take the high point of the death toll of communism in China.

No one knows how many people died during that time
Quote Originally Posted by Wiki
Estimates for the total number of casualties within Soviet Ukraine range between 2.2 million (demographers' estimate) and 3-3.5 million (historians' estimate), and up to 10 million is quoted by the media and cited in political debates.
and even the most anti-communist historian will tell you that there is no proof that Holodomor ever happened


You're combining unreliable data with propaganda under the concept "guilty until proven innocent". Don't be surprised if your arguments don't sound very convincing.
Also . If anyone is using propaganda, I somehow don't think that person is me.