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    Or in English, would any of you gentlemen know of a good and effective free defragging program? Preferably tell me quick, so i can download it in the morning and set it to go while i'm out at an interview.

    Much appreciated, danke.
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    Try PerfectDisk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whacker View Post
    I second JKDefrag, as seen in the glorious free software thread.
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    I downloaded JKDefrag and used it last night. I learned two things:

    1. My HD was so badly fragmented that nearly 25GB wat taken up by... nothing!

    2. Vista's defragmenting tool does not work.
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    Ultimate Defrag. So beutiful, it could be used as art. Oh, and it works wonderfully as well.

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    I used JKdefrag a few nights ago...

    Started at about 1.30AMish....finish shortly before 6am. Took absolutely forever, didn't give me any info on what all the pretty colours meant, and was far too simplistic in that it had no menus or options, as opposed to most defraggers which have a few basic options, such as the ability to turn off the computer once done.

    I ended up lying in bed for two hours listening to music waiting for it to finish. Will definitely not be using that again.

    CrossLOPER: It's a well known fact now that Microsoft is about as competent at making a working defrag tool as Gregoshi is capable of going a day without making a terrible cringe-inducing pun.
    Last edited by Mikeus Caesar; 11-17-2008 at 01:10.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranika
    I'm being assailed by a mental midget of ironically epic proportions. Quick as frozen molasses, this one. Sharp as a melted marble. It's disturbing. I've had conversations with a braying mule with more coherence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar View Post
    I used JKdefrag a few nights ago...

    Started at about 1.30AMish....finish shortly before 6am. Took absolutely forever, didn't give me any info on what all the pretty colours meant, and was far too simplistic in that it had no menus or options, as opposed to most defraggers which have a few basic options, such as the ability to turn off the computer once done.

    I ended up lying in bed for two hours listening to music waiting for it to finish. Will definitely not be using that again.

    CrossLOPER: It's a well known fact now that Microsoft is about as competent at making a working defrag tool as Gregoshi is capable of going a day without making a terrible cringe-inducing pun.
    RTFM?
    The Windows version of JkDefrag shows a high-detail map of the harddisk, refreshed 3 times per second. Bottom-left of the window is the beginning of the harddisk. The colors used are:

    * Black: empty
    * Green: regular files, unfragmented
    * Dark green: spacehogs, unfragmented
    * Yellow: fragmented
    * Red: unmovable
    * White: busy
    * Pink: MFT reserved zone (NTFS only)
    * Gray: in use by unknown data
    How it works
    JkDefrag is based on the standard defragmentation API by Microsoft, a system library that is included in Windows 2000, 2003, XP, Vista, and 2008. Most defragmenters are based on this API, including the free defragmenter that comes with Windows and many commercial defragmenters. Basically all JkDefrag does is send "move this file to that location" commands to the API. JkDefrag does not modify the disk by itself, and is therefore extremely solid.

    Defragmentation and optimizing will not only make a harddisk faster, but also lengthen it's life span. The disk will have less work to do and therefore have less wear and tear. Secondly, the sorting optimization strategies (see the "-a" option) will refresh all the magnetic data on your harddisk. However, defragmenting and optimizing is work, so excessive defragmenting and optimizing can actually cause more wear and tear than it prevents. JkDefrag is therefore set for "fast" optimization by default, intended to be used on a daily basis. The other optimizations should only be used occasionally.

    Phase 1: Analyze
    JkDefrag has to scan all the files on the disk to determine if they are fragmented and where they are. A second step inside this phase will apply the exclude masks and determine which files are SpaceHogs.
    Phase 2: Defragment
    All fragmented files are defragmented, simply by moving them to the first gap on the disk that is big enough. If there is no gap big enough then the defragmenter will reduce the number of fragments in the file by moving as much of the file as possible into the largest gaps available.
    Phase 3: Optimize

    * On most harddisks the beginning of the harddisk is considerably faster than the end, sometimes by as much as 200 percent! See the link to "HD Tune" in the "See Also" chapter for a nice little free program to measure your disk. The default JkDefrag optimization strategy therefore moves all files to the beginning of the volume. It is intended for daily use and will simply fill gaps with files from above, very quick and with very little data movement.
    * JkDefrag classifies files into 3 zones: directories (zone 1), regular files (zone 2), and SpaceHogs (zone 3). Directories are perhaps the most accessed data on disk, so zone 1 is placed at the beginning of the harddisk. After the directories comes a free area (see below), then zone 2 with regular files, another free area, and then zone 3 with SpaceHogs (less important files that take up a lot of space). The beginning and end of the zones is determined automatically, see the "-f" option.
    * A running computer will create and delete temporary files like there is no tomorrow. If the harddisk were completely optimized then the only place for new temporary files would be behind all the other data. Which is rather slow. So JkDefrag maintains a free space of 1% of the total disk space between zone 1 (directories) and zone 2 (regular files), and between zone 2 and zone 3 (SpaceHogs).
    * Sorting the files on your disk can give you even more speed. There are several sorting strategies to choose from (see the "-a" options). These are all very slow and intended for occasional use only.
    * Windows reserves a percentage of the disk for the MFT (Master File Table), but can place normal files there if the rest of the disk is full. The files will remain there, even when there is enough space again. JkDefrag looks for files in the MFT reserved space and moves them to normal diskspace, making the reserved space available again for the MFT.

    When JkDefrag is running you will see lot's of messages zipping by showing you exactly what is happening. The messages are also stored in the logfile ("JkDefrag.log" or "JkDefragCmd.log") for later inspection. The logfile may also contain warning messages, for example when a file could not be moved. This is normal, no need to worry. Windows has many system files that cannot be moved while Windows is running.

    Commandline
    JkDefrag is completely automatic.
    The commandline options are not needed for normal use.
    JkDefrag is ready to run, just click the "JkDefrag" program. Default behavior is to automatically process all the mounted, writable, fixed volumes on your computer. You can change this behavior with the following commandline options:

    For example: JkDefrag.exe -a 7 -d 2 -q c: d:

    -a N The action to perform. N is a number from 1 to 11, default is 3:
    1 = Analyze, do not defragment and do not optimize.
    2 = Defragment only, do not optimize.
    3 = Defragment and fast optimize [recommended].
    5 = Force together.
    6 = Move to end of disk.
    7 = Optimize by sorting all files by name (folder + filename).
    8 = Optimize by sorting all files by size (smallest first).
    9 = Optimize by sorting all files by last access (newest first).
    10 = Optimize by sorting all files by last change (oldest first).
    11 = Optimize by sorting all files by creation time (oldest first).
    -e "mask" Exclude files and/or directories that match the mask. The items will not be defragmented and will not be moved. Use wildcards '*' and '?' in the mask to match a set of files or directories. If the mask contains a space then it must be enclosed in double-quotes. Some examples:
    JkDefrag -e *.avi -e *.zip -e *.log
    JkDefrag -e D:\MySQL\Data\*
    -u "mask" Files that match a mask will be moved to the SpaceHogs area. The program has a built-in list for all files bigger than 50 megabytes, files not accessed in the last month, archives, files in the recycle bin, service pack files, and some others. Disable this list by specifying the special mask "DisableDefaults". Use wildcards '*' and '?' in the mask to match a set of files or directories. If the mask contains a space then it must be enclosed in double-quotes. Some examples:
    JkDefrag -u *.avi -u *.zip -u *.log
    JkDefrag -u D:\MySQL\Data\*
    -s N Slow down to N percent (1...100) of normal speed. Default is 100.
    -f N Set the size of the free spaces to N percent (0...100) of the size of the volume. The free spaces are room on disk for temporary files. There are 2 free spaces, between the 3 zones (directories, regular files, SpaceHogs). Default is 1% (per free space).
    -d N Select a debug level, controlling the messages that will be written to the logfile. The number N is a value from 0 to 6, default is 1:
    0 = Fatal errors.
    1 = Warning messages [default].
    2 = General progress messages.
    3 = Detailed progress messages.
    4 = Detailed file information.
    5 = Detailed gap-filling messages.
    6 = Detailed gap-finding messages.
    -l "filename" Specify a filename for the logfile. Default is "JkDefrag.log" and "JkDefragCmd.log". Specify empty string "" (two double-quotes) to disable the logfile.
    -h [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
    -help [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
    --help [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
    /? [commandline version only] Show a short help text.
    -q [windows version only] Quit the program when it has finished.
    items The items to be defragmented and optimized, such as a file, directory, disk, mount point, or volume, including removable media such as floppies, USB disks, memory sticks, and other volumes that behave like a harddisk. Wildcards '*' and '?' are allowed to select a set of files. If the item contains a space then it must be enclosed in double-quotes. Some examples:
    JkDefrag C: D:
    JkDefrag f:\*.log D:\MySQL\Data\*

    Fast optimization
    This optimization strategy is designed for every day use. It moves a minimum of data on the harddisk and finishes very quickly, but will not fill all the gaps on the disk. The strategy scans for gaps on the disk and fills them with files from above.
    Sorted optimization
    All the sorting optimizations WILL CREATE FRAGMENTS. This is by design, it is not a bug. For more info see the Frequently Asked Questions.
    These sorting optimizations are for incidental use once in a while. They take a lot of running time and data movement because they rewrite all the data on the disk. The strategies vacate a small area on disk and then fill it up again with the files in the selected order.

    * Sort by name: very good for fast program starting. The files used by a particular program will be very close together on disk.
    * Sort by size: placing all the small files together at the beginning of the disk will dramatically reduce the average file seek time.
    * Sort by last access: files that have not been accessed in a while are probably unimportant and are best sorted to the back.
    * Sort by last change: placing files together that change a lot (for example databases and log files) will speed up regular operation of the system.
    * Sort by creation time: The oldest files on the disk are likely to be important system files, for example used when Windows is booting.

    Note: If you want to sort by last access time then first make sure your virus scanner (and other programs that scan all files on disk) do not change that time.
    Force together
    Intended for partition resizing. All movable files are moved to the beginning of the disk, even if it means fragmenting them to fill gaps that cannot be filled otherwise.
    Move to end of disk
    Move all the files to the end of the disk, making more room at the beginning of the disk. Intended for big and rarely used files such as log files, backup archives, installation files, and such.


    It has more options than I'd know what to do with. Frankly, I just run the program without any options and walk away. Works fine.
    Last edited by Xiahou; 11-17-2008 at 08:13.
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    Ermm.... What Xhole said. It's really easy to use and figure out. The fact that it took ages on your machine tells me that it's either of: 1. your HDD is slow 2. your machine was INCREDIBLY fragmented, or both. Honestly the best thing you can do is just run it and let it go. The first time something like that runs on a fragmented drive, it can take hours. Each time after that should be much, much shorter. So relax.

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    One last thing. For best results set it up using Windows task scheduler to run once a week or once a night. That way you don't have to worry about doing it manually all the time.

    Edit - So I just realized that my box hasn't been running the weekly defrag for the past 6 months or so. My drive was about 50% fragmented with about 60% total space used. It took about 3 hours to complete the whole operation, and I have a fast SATA HDD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeus Caesar View Post
    CrossLOPER: It's a well known fact now that Microsoft is about as competent at making a working defrag tool as Gregoshi is capable of going a day without making a terrible cringe-inducing pun.
    Hey! Don't make me go all pun-fu on you Mikeus. BTW, Fragony is not a tool and I'm sure Microsoft has nothing to do with him.

    BTW, I downloaded and ran JK Defrag this past week and ran it over the weekend. It took several hours but then it was working on 640MB of harddrive space to defrag. While I was somewhat surprise that there was no menu or prompting, it did do what I wanted it to do, so no harm done. Why require a few buttons to be clicked when none are needed. Also, you can stop it at any time you want/need. I'm happy with it so far.
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    JKDefrag is sweet, moved some large files that both Microsoft and PerfectDisk couldn't rearrange.
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