Immigration Question

[CountArach]

But as it is now it's opium for the elite.

That's funny, because I would say the same about Capitalism...

[Fragony]

That's funny, because I would say the same about Capitalism...

Why would a company want immigrants, and why would a politician want immigrants. Who is making a living and who is having a hobby.

[CountArach]

Why would a company want immigrants, and why would a politician want immigrants. Who is making a living and who is having a hobby.

Let me explain what I was saying:
1) You changed JAG's post to a pro-capitalist message (Free markets = free people).
2) You state that immigration is the opiate of the elite
3) I use a combination of 1 and 2 to get a message across about Capitalism and how anything can be labelled as an opiate of the elite without any real substantive evidence.

[Fragony]

and how anything can be labelled as an opiate of the elite without any real substantive evidence.

One is and the other isn't, that's the difference. Evidence: just about every western nation.

[Husar]

The problem is the inequality, as it was all westerners were rich and other countries poor, now our clever capitalist managers found out if they hire immigrants from poor countries for less money they can themselves become even richer and shift the rich-poor gap from West-Rest of world to Managers-Everybody else due to the decrease in normal wages caused by undermining the previous wages with the use of poor immigrant workers and the resulting higher profits which the management usually uses to increase their own income, then whine that all the poor people don't buy enough.

[KukriKhan]

My problem with un-visa'd immigrants is: if we have, and are apparently sustaining 12 million of them (as some estimators guess), they - the immigrants - have 'jumped the line', and taken the place of 12 million other immigrants from China, India, Kenya, Germany, Hungary, Syria, Korea, etc., etc. who would also like to come and live and work here - and have followed the rules we set down, but get delayed or denied entry because we're "all full up".

It's a situation that deserves a lot more attention than it currently gets.

[drone]

The economic situation will sort things out. Right now, they are doing jobs we don't want to do. Soon, they will be competing for jobs with desperate citizens and the opportunities will diminish greatly.