USS Constitution?

[Sir Beane]

@NimitsTexan

The US answer for the Constitution is Best Buy. The UK (and possibly Europe) answer for the Constitution is Play.com. There is another exclusive unit available in the UK (and Europe?) called the Death's Head Hussars that is available from Game. Amazon UK is supposed to have an exclusive unit as well but I didn't see it listed what it is. That makes me wonder if Amazon US has an exclusive unit.


The Special Forces Edition is supposed to have six additional units. I'm guessing that these are the same units if the game is purchased through Steam or through retail (Best Buy, Amazon, Play.com, etc.) for the SF edition.:

1) HMS Victory
2) Rogers' Rangers
3) Ottoman Organ Gun
4) Ghoorkas
5) Corso Terrestre Guerillas
6) Bulkeley's Regiment

Source: http://store.steampowered.com/sub/1281/

Amazon's special unit is the Dahomey Amazons. A female musket unit, probably skirmishers.

[Fisherking]

Here are the exclusive units:


3 pre order units

USS Constitution: this unit is available when playing as the USA and your technology has sufficiently advanced. It may also be captured by opposing factions.

Death’s Head Hussars: this unit is available when playing as Prussia and your technology has sufficiently advanced. Prussia must also hold Brandenburg.

Dahomey Amazons: this unit is available when holding territory in North Africa.

http://www.totalwar.com/empire/gamei....php#aanswer_4


I hope all you North Americans have access to Old Ironsides.

I would get more of a conformation than what another site has to say. Call the Company. I do hope it is available from Best Buy but you best make sure.

Otherwise see what the shipping is from Play. There is no shipping fee in the UK or Europe from them. I don‘t remember if they sell world wide.

[ScipioAfricanus]

I hope all you North Americans have access to Old Ironsides.

I would get more of a conformation than what another site has to say. Call the Company. I do hope it is available from Best Buy but you best make sure.

@Fisherking

I'm about 90% sure based on the Best Buy websites. Both the US and Canadian sites have the same box cover pictured and in the upper right it has what looks like a ship: US Best Buy E:TW. It can be seen a little better on the Canadian BB site but not much (they have an image that is a bit larger).

If I get a chance I'll run by BB today to see if they have any information about it. It's better to see it for oneself than to ask people that work there, or at least that's the case with the local BB store.

Otherwise see what the shipping is from Play. There is no shipping fee in the UK or Europe from them. I don‘t remember if they sell world wide.

Apparently Play doesn't deliver to the US, not surprising really with Amazon, Best Buy and other options available here. It does look cheaper at Play if I did the conversion correctly but it doesn't look like BB has marked any off yet, which I would think might change by the time that it's released although I don't remember that being the case with M2:TW. Play is showing it for £29.99, which seems to be about $43.25 (US) or close to $7 cheaper than BB. Those numbers are of course for the regular edition while the SF edition is about $20 more.

I haven't seen any mention of the Dahomey Amazons being included. Was that on the UK Amazon site? Notice on that link that it mentions E:TW under Popular Culture.

[ThePianist]

Off topic - sorry to waste bandwidth.

The issue there was that instead of using the a/c names like Wildcat and Avenger, UBI Soft went ahead and used the name Grumman Wildcat and Grumman Avenger. And Northrop-Grumman got all in a huff and claimed TM infringement (how they get to trademark the names of US taxpayer purchased stuff is anybodies guess). They worked out a deal in the end where they would not sue and have UBI remove the content - BUT - UBI just decided that this was the end of any american a/c additions to the franchise. So we missed out on a great looking TBD Devastator and a number of other a/c.

A real shame.

A real shame. They don't have trademark infringement unless someone builds an actual thing with the parts. Why can't I paint a Grumman Wildcat and Grumman Avenger painting and sell it? Isn't Coca Cola a trademark of that company? It's also the exact complete name of the product. How come I can make a movie with Coca Cola in it, and sell the movie and that's OK?

What about people in movies saying Name-of-Car, Number-Year, that's the exact complete name of that product. What about people in movies saying Name-of-wine/beer, Number-year, that's also the exact complete name of that product. What about games with Colt .45, Colt M-16 and Springfield 1907? Those are exact complete names. What about tank sims, and flight sims and car sims. There would be so many fees if everyone was a crook like Northrop Grumman (and, they aren't even competitive anymore, or I think they were bought by Boeing, or something). UbiSoft should counter-sue, and get hassle fee from Northrop Grumman.

Also, since the government belongs to the people, government property is public property, and you don't trademark public property. Like, the White House, the Capitol Hill, the Supreme Court, the Library of Congress, the Mount Rushmore, they may be built at expense and maybe by private enterprises, but once they are done building they are public property, the name and image thereof, or should I say, the knowledge of the name and the image is public property, and you don't have to pay to mention the name or depict them in painting (video game = 3D painting).

[ratbarf]

Also, since the government belongs to the people, government property is public property, and you don't trademark public property.

Il Sturmovik is made by Russian company. (I think ubisoft is its distributor in NA) So that may be a problem. Also, the rights and such still belong to the company that made the product even if the US government bought it. They buy Blackberries yet don't have any rights to them for an example.

Finally, I think this whole business is utterly and totally gay. I shouldn't have to buy four copies of the same game from different stores to get all of the units in the game.... Its total bullshit!!!

[scipiosgoblin]

Why can't I paint a Grumman Wildcat and Grumman Avenger painting and sell it?

You can. Perfectly legal. You are selling your talent. The fact that you are selling a representation of a trademarked object is not illegal.

Isn't Coca Cola a trademark of that company? It's also the exact complete name of the product. How come I can make a movie with Coca Cola in it, and sell the movie and that's OK?

Because Coca Cola paid the movie company to place the product in the movie. Haven't you ever seen the generic COLA cans in movies. Every brand name you see on TV and in a movie was paid advertising for that product.

What about people in movies saying Name-of-Car, Number-Year, that's the exact complete name of that product. What about people in movies saying Name-of-wine/beer, Number-year, that's also the exact complete name of that product.

Same thing, if it's mentioned it was paid for.

What about games with Colt .45, Colt M-16 and Springfield 1907? Those are exact complete names. What about tank sims, and flight sims and car sims. There would be so many fees if everyone was a crook like Northrop Grumman (and, they aren't even competitive anymore, or I think they were bought by Boeing, or something).

Northrup Grumman is a comapny who's duty is to make money for their stockholders. They are in a VERY competitive business called defense contracting. They are not crooks, they are people just like you and me. They are trying to protect their livelyhood. And BTW they are the 2nd largest defense contractor in the world.

UbiSoft should counter-sue, and get hassle fee from Northrop Grumman.

They would lose because the law is on the side of NG.

Also, since the government belongs to the people, government property is public property, and you don't trademark public property. Like, the White House, the Capitol Hill, the Supreme Court, the Library of Congress, the Mount Rushmore, they may be built at expense and maybe by private enterprises, but once they are done building they are public property, the name and image thereof, or should I say, the knowledge of the name and the image is public property, and you don't have to pay to mention the name or depict them in painting (video game = 3D painting).

Exactly. You don't have to pay for trademarks that are owned by the governemnt aka the people. You do have to pay for trademarks owned by companies. Even those trademarks of objects bought with government money such as airplanes. NG was well within their rights.

BTW I think it was a mistake on NG's part because they were getting free advertising.