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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro View Post
    I've decided to vote for psychonaut until he gets lynched, starting next round. No reason necessary. We have about 8 lynches so why not?
    Lol. Alright then.
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    My track record, in case anyone cares.

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    Lunar Whale: Town

    Nailed all the mafia, but made a last second vote change which lynched FactionHeir instead, due to El Diablo pleading with me for his life. Town didn't follow my advice, and the game ended with a loss.

    Mafia nailed: 2/2 remaining.

    Fillet Royale: Town

    Dropped out after I got murdered early, didn't come back until there was the final moments. QJC and the other suspect were tied. I grilled QJC and was sure he was mafia. Reenk Roink showed up and confirmed it, and I confirmed he was innocent. I was right. Town victory.

    Mafia nailed: Partial credit- 1/1 remaining

    Resident Evil: Zombie


    I killed the mafia and town won. I was neutral and didn't care either way. Though this doesn't count, I knew he was a scumbag all along, but he wanted to bait me into attacking him, and I obliged.

    Mafia killed: 1/1 remaining.

    Prometheus: Mafia

    I behaved much differently here than any other game. Mafia won. And I left clues incriminating my mafia partner.

    Mafia hinted at being scum: 1/1 remaining

    Family Guy: Town

    I nailed Seireikhaan and QJC, and even Rythmic early. I eventually second guessed myself and voted White Eyes instead of Rythmic. I personally cost town the game, but I was correct on all 3 mafia.

    Mafia nailed: 3/3

    Chicago Soiree: Town

    Didn't use my analysis system on everyone in the game. Consequently, I focused on the wrong people and we lost. My biggest mistake.

    Mafia nailed: 0, my fault.

    Sourge of Ephesus: Town

    Got partial scum readings on two of the scum while they were still alive, cleared two townies, falsely accused two. I claim no credit points.

    Mafia nailed: 0, but most other townies were dead wrong too.


    You Can't Win: Neutral

    Nailed Andres and revealed my accusation against him privately. Even got him to basically admit to me his guilt. Then I joined his team because he was bold enough to admit it.

    Mafia nailed: 1 out of 1 remaining.


    Whispers in the Night: Town

    Nailed Glyphz and I believe I was responsible for his death. Accidentally and erroneously nailed Sigurd who was pro-town at the time, later was SK, so no credit. Detected Shlin as having a role but thought he was mafia. Many of the people were dead and that was a complex game, so I am only claiming my one prize.

    Mafia nailed: 1 out of several.

    The Godfather: Town

    Deciding vote on a mafioso (so far as we can tell, at least give me a 75% chance or better on that), and Reenk and Tevash, between them, there's at least one scumbag there. That would make 2. But since the game is not over, I claim no credit.

    Mafia nailed: We will see.

    Blackadder Mafia: Mafia

    Nailed Thermal Mercury AKA Ares as being the scummiest besides myself, he was the Serial Killer. Nailed the vigilante role in second place in my system.

    Both are considered the "enemy" from my point of view, and I cleared the other two. So I'm claiming credit.

    Targets nailed by SkyNet: 2/2 remaining


    Jubal's Mafia: Mafia

    I was mafia, but I helped nail someone who came up as evil in the investigation. So even when I am mafia, I still help town.

    Evil character nailed: 1/1 besides us mafia.
    So, thats 12 or more mafia (or hostile-to-me targets) destroyed/detected out of 12 games I've been in, and hints at who the real scum are in at least one game when I was scum. My analysis is worthless. Thank you.



    Edit: GH tells me he won't end the round even if I get 7 votes, because he's supposed to be impartial. I understand, and withdraw my offer. Doesn't matter anyway.
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    All I'm going to add to my last post is that Tevash's defense seems fairly solid to me. Based on that, and the fact that my attitude hasn't really changed since yesterday...

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    just to clarify, sasaki told me i forgot to unvote

    so unvote, vote: abstain

    sorry for any confusion

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    I can't believe your guys are putting faith in a system that has been frankly, ripped to shreds in almost every way.

    You say Atpg is probably not Mafia?

    Fine. I say that doesn't make him innocent at all and he is being an awful townie.

    Atpg doesn't even bother addressing me calling out his inconsistencies and my charge of him construing every one of my posts and actions in an ad hoc manner and then using buzzwords such as "logic" when he either misunderstands the term or uses it so loosely to refer to a way of reasoning (not to mention that the contradictions in his post make it look worse) and now his favorite word "scummy" because he has no substance to refute my points.

    TevashSzat is probably an innocent man, I already owe him for my work in Scourge of Ephesus, and everything he has done so far makes him look even more innocent. I will defend him like I defend Beefy.

    Atpg got himself into this situation, but he unfortunately dragged Tevash into it too. Please redress this wrong and lynch the one detrimental to our cause. Lynch Atpg.

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    I just have grown weary of people who don't know for a fact that Reenk and Tevash aren't scum posting in a condescending fashion about how wrong I am, and about how horrible my analyses are, when I have a track record that, while imperfect, actually says otherwise.
    Your "track record" is horribly misguided. For one, you claim "victories" when you really didn't do anything. Case in point with QJC in Fillet Royale. Do you realize how tenuous your claim of "grilling QJC" was? It did nothing to add to my suspicion of him to be quite honest. I already knew that the Mafia must be either QJC or YLC beforehand, and had decided that QJC was the better choice beforehand as well.

    Add to that you "confirming" I was innocent. Sorry Atpg, but nearly everyone at that point realized I was The Watcher, as the gradual letters were designed to do that. You take far too much credit here.

    In Family Guy you say you nailed Rythmic and then second guessed yourself and voted otherwise, but claim Rythmic as a "victory" anyway? Come on Atpg, anyone can say at the end "I had suspicions of such and such" it's so weak.

    In Whispers of the Night, the town didn't follow your lead to lynch glyphz much at all. The reason that glyphz and shlin were on the cutting block is because everyone else had revealed. And then shlin revealed. So it went down to glyphz. Recall that glyphz got very little voting support when you made your case against him, and only after shlin was eliminated as a suspect.

    The Prometheus case is just sad if true? You actually intended to put clues and did put clues against your own partner?!? Remind me of that fact when I get the chance to pick partners...

    I'm sorry, but I will say it's a bit self centered to associate such importance of your system in those games. Your track record is no better or no worse than random guessing, which is what I would expect from any method of analysis. Add to this that your method is essentially using Mafia cliches like lurking, 3rd on the bandwagon, and the good old misguided behavior changes to draw conclusions. It's epistemic value is not high.


    I'm sorry if my criticisms of your system seem harsh Atpg (recall that I encouraged you to play in your way and still do), but you must be ready to accept it, especially when your system criticizes others wrongly and promotes itself as the best method. Don't act like the victim Atpg, you have brought this on yourself.

    I've been discussed to death, and it's OVER. I'm done! I had fun, but now we are beating a dead horse. Either lynch Tevash, or lynch me. I'm beyond caring at this point. I will come back later and continue doing my work for town if I die, and I'll shut up if I am a dead mafia, so you will know. No apologies necessary, let's turn the game forward. Tevash is afraid to die, I'm not.
    If you weren't afraid to die, unvote Tevash. In fact, vote yourself right now. You say you are more than willing to do it later anyway, so why not now?
    Last edited by Reenk Roink; 02-14-2009 at 14:04.

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    I got an idea... why don't we lynch ATPG this round, then lynch Tevash next round? Its not like delaying a lynch is gonna make the town lose... this is just like the plan ATPG proposed, but the other way round. (ATPG is trying to force my side (Sasaki, Tevash etc) to compromise, but why don't you compromise first?

    As for my "worthless" analysises (according to ATPG...), I've never been good at those things, I just get along trying to be as least suspcious as possible in the thread, not doing much. Only when I get a role do I get relatively active and gets paranoid -(See my constant reassurances to the town that I will be back in X hours in Whispers in the Night). I just play mafia for the heck of it and for fun

    and a Rebuttal to his evil Wallz of Textz:
    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

    If that's the best you have to offer, Shlin, and you don't give better suspects soon, my opinion of your skills as town or mafia will have diminished. And you're registering higher on the scumdar with each post. Fair warning, my friend.
    I'm just wondering why you think trying to become CoP is suspicious. CoPs have pratically NO powers whatsoever - especially as they will be scrutinesed extenisvely due to their status. Sure the candidates/winner needs to be thoroughly vetted, but get lynched just because of what they did during the elections? As for suspects, I'm just doing what I normally do.
    To be fair, my specific criticism of you is that you're defensive, quick to judge me, you're dismissive and sarcastic. What are you hiding? You have every right to criticize me, and disagree. I just think you made a poor case against me, gave a scummy defense, and have been disastrously wrong so far. Plus you got support from people I consider scum. No proof, just interesting.
    So if I protect someone you suspect, I muse be scum...? Does that mean I can accuse you of being scummy because you helped YLC/others?
    You're not doing a good job as Police Chief. I recommend you be lynched before the game is over. You're mostly just joking around, and your analysis is lacking, and your suspects are easy marks. You're not putting forth effort, and that galls me to no end, buddy.
    The CoP has no powers apart from deciding lynch method (useless strategically wise) and be immune from kills - what the hell I'm I supposed to do with that? The only good job I can do is do good lynch write-ups, and I think I'm doing very well at that. Even if I was not CoP, I would still behave the same way (minus the pompous entrances and equally pompous exits...).

    Anyway, I don't have to make this post, I could just ignore this and keep playing the normaly way, especially as I am in no way threatened to be lynched. BUT, I choose to make this post because I feel that Tevash' treatment is unjustified and your suspicions on me are groundless.



    PS: If it doesn't make any sense, I wrote in a hurry, so sorry in advance.

    PS 2: I'm just basing this on the top of my head, I didn't actually look back in the thread, so any inconsitencies that are found are my mistakes


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    I've read about 100 posts (yes, I wasn't online yesterday evening) on frickin' Valentine's Day (in the meanwhile letting my lovely wife wait for me) because the host was concerned about things getting too heated.

    It was not a fun read. In fact, I'm considering to commit suicide in this game (apologies to GH, this has nothing to do with the quality of the host, you know I hold you in very high regard, good sir ) based on what I've seen.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    My track record, in case anyone cares.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Lunar Whale: Town

    Nailed all the mafia, but made a last second vote change which lynched FactionHeir instead, due to El Diablo pleading with me for his life. Town didn't follow my advice, and the game ended with a loss.

    Mafia nailed: 2/2 remaining.

    Fillet Royale: Town

    Dropped out after I got murdered early, didn't come back until there was the final moments. QJC and the other suspect were tied. I grilled QJC and was sure he was mafia. Reenk Roink showed up and confirmed it, and I confirmed he was innocent. I was right. Town victory.

    Mafia nailed: Partial credit- 1/1 remaining

    Resident Evil: Zombie


    I killed the mafia and town won. I was neutral and didn't care either way. Though this doesn't count, I knew he was a scumbag all along, but he wanted to bait me into attacking him, and I obliged.

    Mafia killed: 1/1 remaining.

    Prometheus: Mafia

    I behaved much differently here than any other game. Mafia won. And I left clues incriminating my mafia partner.

    Mafia hinted at being scum: 1/1 remaining

    Family Guy: Town

    I nailed Seireikhaan and QJC, and even Rythmic early. I eventually second guessed myself and voted White Eyes instead of Rythmic. I personally cost town the game, but I was correct on all 3 mafia.

    Mafia nailed: 3/3

    Chicago Soiree: Town

    Didn't use my analysis system on everyone in the game. Consequently, I focused on the wrong people and we lost. My biggest mistake.

    Mafia nailed: 0, my fault.

    Sourge of Ephesus: Town

    Got partial scum readings on two of the scum while they were still alive, cleared two townies, falsely accused two. I claim no credit points.

    Mafia nailed: 0, but most other townies were dead wrong too.


    You Can't Win: Neutral

    Nailed Andres and revealed my accusation against him privately. Even got him to basically admit to me his guilt. Then I joined his team because he was bold enough to admit it.

    Mafia nailed: 1 out of 1 remaining.


    Whispers in the Night: Town

    Nailed Glyphz and I believe I was responsible for his death. Accidentally and erroneously nailed Sigurd who was pro-town at the time, later was SK, so no credit. Detected Shlin as having a role but thought he was mafia. Many of the people were dead and that was a complex game, so I am only claiming my one prize.

    Mafia nailed: 1 out of several.

    The Godfather: Town

    Deciding vote on a mafioso (so far as we can tell, at least give me a 75% chance or better on that), and Reenk and Tevash, between them, there's at least one scumbag there. That would make 2. But since the game is not over, I claim no credit.

    Mafia nailed: We will see.

    Blackadder Mafia: Mafia

    Nailed Thermal Mercury AKA Ares as being the scummiest besides myself, he was the Serial Killer. Nailed the vigilante role in second place in my system.

    Both are considered the "enemy" from my point of view, and I cleared the other two. So I'm claiming credit.

    Targets nailed by SkyNet: 2/2 remaining


    Jubal's Mafia: Mafia

    I was mafia, but I helped nail someone who came up as evil in the investigation. So even when I am mafia, I still help town.

    Evil character nailed: 1/1 besides us mafia.
    So, thats 12 or more mafia (or hostile-to-me targets) destroyed/detected out of 12 games I've been in, and hints at who the real scum are in at least one game when I was scum. My analysis is worthless. Thank you.



    Edit: GH tells me he won't end the round even if I get 7 votes, because he's supposed to be impartial. I understand, and withdraw my offer. Doesn't matter anyway.


    There is a reason why there will never be a 'ranking system' as long as I have something to say about Gameroom policy. Competition brings out the worst in people. The Gameroom is NOT a place where we compete and I find it bad taste to sum up ones' merits like that.

    We are here to have fun, not to compare penis length.

    I will now log out (yes, that's what I do when I get angry, to avoid typing things I shouldn't type, maybe it's a tactic some of you should consider as well) and will think before I decide whether or not to suicide from this game.

    Thank you for paying attention to your boring moderator.



    EDIT: a while ago, Sigurd spent a whole lot of time making this thread. I suggest you honor his efforts by reading it, especially numbers 2, 3 and 6 under the section "General Rules and Advice". Thanks in advance.
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    Understand Andres

    Please don't leave this game! It won't be the same without you! As the local CoP, I can make it worth your while to stay! Pretty please?


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    I AM SORRY I messed up.....but I well be more sportsman-like....rather then.......(I feel like I did something really wrong so I am saying I'm sorry...)

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    Sorry Andres, I was totally out of line. It won't happen again.
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    I have no qualms about removing BOTH Tev and Pizza. Seems practical enough. Of the two, I find Pizza's case more choppy -- Sasaki makes good points. Moreover, Pizza's offer to put his head on a chopping block is not indicative of innocence. As he and Reenk taught us in Prometheus, such a "gambit" is part of the repetoire.

    Vote: Pizza

    Others in serious need of swimming with our Laserine Sharks include:

    Psyhco, Iggy, and Taka. WAY too much lurk and vote lurk and vote from that trio. They need to be weeded out even if NOT mafia, just because a lack of commentary and discussion always plays into the mafia's hands.
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    Okay, I can't believe this has gone this far already, but as per the rules of GH, the Detective cannot reveal privately to anyone.

    Thats right, guys, I am the Detective. That is partially the reason why I actually made a long rebuttal to ATPG's analysis of me. I wanted to head off any votes on me so I won't actually have to do a reveal, but here we are.

    If people don't trust me, fine, and go lynch me, but know that you will be killing your only detective and drastically reducing your chances of winning the game.

    This is what I have gotten from my investigations:

    Night 1: I investigated shlin, of course. If the mafia had somehow gotten the CoP, they would have a tremendous advantage.

    Result: Innocent. That means that shlin is definately not a Grunt, but he may still be the Godfather.

    Night 2: I investigated Sasaki this time. The Day lynching was somewhat of a choice between the lesser of two evils ie Seamus and Ichigo and I had no one jump out as being really scummy. Thus, I chose an old veteran that would definately be contributing to the town

    Result: Innocent.

    Night 3: Alas, did not manage to get in my results in time. I don't know what I was thinking, but I didn't send it in early.

    By the time I got back from school the next day, I had missed the night deadline by like an hour or so.....

    Night 4: Investigated YLC due to the whole thing with him there

    Results: Innocent. Meh, I still didn't know from then since he screamed scummy to me, but with ATPG's whole YLC thing I guess that explains it


    As for people who ask me why I didn't reveal earlier: When I had last saw the thread, ATPG was ahead of me in votes and I didn't think I was in that much of risk of getting lynched.

    Unfortunately, we tied. I still didn't reveal because I have had no results so far and it would be a shame to reveal so early.

    But now, here we are and I hope you guys like what you've forced me to do.

    BTW, I love how ATPG thinks taka is scummy for lurking when Ignoramus, who is on his "trusted people list" is lurking even more. Rythmic has basically done the same
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    Quote Originally Posted by TevashSzat View Post
    Okay, I can't believe this has gone this far already, but as per the rules of GH, the Detective cannot reveal privately to anyone.

    Thats right, guys, I am the Detective. That is partially the reason why I actually made a long rebuttal to ATPG's analysis of me. I wanted to head off any votes on me so I won't actually have to do a reveal, but here we are.

    If people don't trust me, fine, and go lynch me, but know that you will be killing your only detective and drastically reducing your chances of winning the game.

    This is what I have gotten from my investigations:

    Night 1: I investigated shlin, of course. If the mafia had somehow gotten the CoP, they would have a tremendous advantage.

    Result: Innocent. That means that shlin is definately not a Grunt, but he may still be the Godfather.

    Night 2: I investigated Sasaki this time. The Day lynching was somewhat of a choice between the lesser of two evils ie Seamus and Ichigo and I had no one jump out as being really scummy. Thus, I chose an old veteran that would definately be contributing to the town

    Result: Innocent.

    Night 3: Alas, did not manage to get in my results in time. I don't know what I was thinking, but I didn't send it in early.

    By the time I got back from school the next day, I had missed the night deadline by like an hour or so.....

    Night 4: Investigated YLC due to the whole thing with him there

    Results: Innocent. Meh, I still didn't know from then since he screamed scummy to me, but with ATPG's whole YLC thing I guess that explains it


    As for people who ask me why I didn't reveal earlier: When I had last saw the thread, ATPG was ahead of me in votes and I didn't think I was in that much of risk of getting lynched.

    Unfortunately, we tied. I still didn't reveal because I have had no results so far and it would be a shame to reveal so early.

    But now, here we are and I hope you guys like what you've forced me to do.

    BTW, I love how ATPG thinks taka is scummy for lurking when Ignoramus, who is on his "trusted people list" is lurking even more. Rythmic has basically done the same
    ORLY? Curiouser and Curiouser...
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    Dear Seamus, I hope you can get back into the thread before this round ends. It would be a terrible pity if you were to have lodged a vote against Pizzaguy just before this new information becomes available and not be able to get back and evaluate this reveal now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TevashSzat View Post
    Thats right, guys, I am the Detective. That is partially the reason why I actually made a long rebuttal to ATPG's analysis of me. I wanted to head off any votes on me so I won't actually have to do a reveal, but here we are.
    So you do have a role (detective or not)...

    Unvote: Tevash

    Revealing to be the detective will be your last ditch defense, even if ATPG gets lynched this round I doubt you'll survive for long.

    A fair compromise.

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    Tevash, please post your complete role PM.


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    I said I would keep this game tied, and I will do everything in my power to keep it that way. We do not have to lynch either of them.

    Vote: TevashSzat

    Tally:

    Tevash: 6 (Chaotix27, Ignoramus, Taka, Psychonaut, ATPG, YLC)
    ATPG: 6 (Sasaki Kojiro, TevashSzat, White_eyes, Reenk Roink, Beefy, Seamus)

    Abstaining: Ares, Gaius (possibly others, I didn't check previous pages)
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    How would you know they would both survive? As far as I recall GH has said nothing cocerning what happens after the tie vote.

    In light of Tevash's reveal, I suggest we lynch ATPG and then see if Tevash gets killed. If we let them get into the murky terriotaries of what happens when they are still tied after this extended round of voting... maybe BOTH may be lynched. Who knows?

    Edit: Didn't Khaan kinda claimed detective already? :S
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    Chaotix27, did you see Tevashzats' role reveal?

    Vote : Askthepizzaguy

    1) I don't want to lynch a possible detective;
    2) ATPG still looks scummy to me;
    3) Tevashzat never struck me as guilty. The somewhat aggressive tone he used to defend himself is not out of the ordinary. In fact, I've seen him posting like that before when under pressure as a townie.
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    For the record, if the game stays tied after the deadline passes, then the round stays extended until the tie gets broken.

    Since I won't have enough time to write anything before I leave, the round will conclude in a few hours.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
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    I believe Tevash (sorry on behalf of the town it came to this).

    Please please please try to investigate Seamus as soon as night comes. I don't know if GH is still doing the realism thing but if your order goes in before the Mafia you will get your result sooner. I think Seamus is a bad guy, let's see if he's a grunt or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seireikhaan View Post
    Dear Seamus, I hope you can get back into the thread before this round ends. It would be a terrible pity if you were to have lodged a vote against Pizzaguy just before this new information becomes available and not be able to get back and evaluate this reveal now.
    Now khaan. Revealing after death is usually prohibited in GH games, but you've been hinting at being detective for ages despite that. Surely, given what your implying here, you're at liberty to explain exactly what you claim you were hinting at in your posts before you were killed. Your behavior has been somewhat fishy.

    ********

    Standard procedure for detective claims is to leave them alive until a later point in the game and then lynch them. We can probably give tevash 5 rounds--killing the other grunt is not key really, finding him would be more useful in terms of finding the connection between the grunt and the godfather.

    Nothing about tevash's claim screams innocence or guilt to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief View Post
    For the record, if the game stays tied after the deadline passes, then the round stays extended until the tie gets broken.

    Since I won't have enough time to write anything before I leave, the round will conclude in a few hours.
    There's no point keeping things tied. TevashSzat's reveal (true or not) makes the decision a bit easier.
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    Very well. You have basically decided to lynch me, but I will still help out.

    Oh, I have something regarding shlin based on Seireikhaan's cryptic clues.

    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=351

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    Night 2

    Seireikhaan was driving down the street when he noticed a damsel in distress frantically waving her arms. He pulled up to her and offered his help. She explained that she needed to change a flat tire. As Seireikhaan checked the busted tire, a dark figure came into view and smashed his head with the tire iron, knocking him out cold.

    Seireikhaan woke up many hours later in a dark cavern.

    "What? Where am I?"

    A deep voice replied "You are in a cave many miles from town. No one but me knows you are here. You are finished."

    Seireikhaan looked around and discovered that he was strapped down to a metal chair. As he struggled to free himself, a large screen rolls down in front of him. Suddenly the screen goes bright and a video of a masked figure eating babies started rolling.

    "I have your chair placed right above a giant tank of water. That button in your right hand will cause you to have a watery death," boomed the voice with laughter.

    Seireikhaan did not last through the hour. His drowned remains were shipped to the front office of the Gameroom in the morning.

    After the recent murders of Tratorix and CountArach, boudica had good reason not to go out at night for anything, other than for the lynching of Ichigo.

    It didn't bother boudica enough to keep her from her evening jogging routine, however. After all, what was a potential mafia attack with the potential of destroying her entire peaceful little town when compared to the maintenance of her fitness regimen?

    To be fair, it helped that she jogged on the other side of town from Tratorix's usual route. boudica went the scenic way, spending quite a bit of time in the Frontroom Park, far away from the alleyway, which, by this point, had been sealed off due to Tratorix's murder.

    She jogged past the lake with its many mice and trace amounts of osmium, around the Frontroom cliffs with its extremely pointy rocks at the bottom, back to the lake where, sitting on a bench that looked like it had never been there before, was a man dressed in a business suit and hat waving at boudica.

    boudica, out of breath, stopped automatically to wave back and chat with the man.

    "Excellent evening for running, I do say," he said amiably.

    "They all are," boudica replied.

    "Indeed," said the man. "Allow me to recommend a beautiful route up in the hills if you're up for a change of scenery."

    "The hills, eh?" boudica panted. "Maybe it is time to adjust my route. I'll have to try that sometime."

    "I'm afraid you won't be able to," the man said, pushing boudica in the lake and holding her head under till she drowned, all with an apologetic smile on his face.

    Eventually, Chief of Police shlin28 got wind of all these murders and grinned. The mafia hadn't been eliminated yet. That meant he got to supply another cool execution. After making a few phone calls to local farms, he gathered everybody in the town square, passing the nude unicyclist juggler and the guy with the boombox in the park. Stopping at this second guy, he asked a question.

    "You," he said, "you're always at the park. Did you see anything strange?"

    "No, man," the guy replied. "I was too busy chilling out to Perry Mason by Ozzy Osbourne."

    "Well, all right," shlin said. "But I'm keeping my eye on you."

    After some time, everyone had arrived, including the results of the few phone calls he had made. As a result, shlin was ready to begin the day's proceedings.

    "All right, people," he said, getting everybody's attention. "Clearly, the mafia are still around, which means you losers didn't get it right last time. As such, we're going to try it again. And this time, the person with the most parts will literally be torn apart. I have acquired four majestic horses. They will each be attached to one of the unlucky person's limbs, and when I give the order they will race apart in different directions. Good luck!"

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~


    Still alive: (23)
    shlin28
    YLC
    777Ares777
    Andres
    TevashSzat
    Quintus.JC
    Lord Winter
    Rythmic
    White_eyes:D
    Chaotix27
    Sigurd
    Reenk Roink
    glyphz
    187Beefyz
    taka
    Seamus Fermanagh
    Jolt
    LittleGrizzly
    Gaius Scribonius Curio
    Ignoramus
    Askthepizzaguy
    TinCow
    Sasaki Kojiro

    Killed:
    Tratorix
    CountArach
    seireikhaan
    boudica

    Executed:
    Ichigo




    ================================

    Eventually, Chief of Police shlin28 got wind of all these murders and grinned. The mafia hadn't been eliminated yet. That meant he got to supply another cool execution. After making a few phone calls to local farms, he gathered everybody in the town square, passing the nude unicyclist juggler and the guy with the boombox in the park. Stopping at this second guy, he asked a question.

    "You," he said, "you're always at the park. Did you see anything strange?" "No, man," the guy replied. "I was too busy chilling out to Perry Mason by Ozzy Osbourne."

    -------------------------------------------------------------------


    Seireikhaan voted Shlin for invoking the execution method of EVIL. Seireikhaan was killed the very next night, and thusly could no longer reveal his role, which I deduce was an investigator role.

    Shlin I strongly suspect is a bad guy, but not the Godfather.

    Oh, and GeneralHankerchief is the nude unicyclist dropping us hints, so far as I can tell. Unless someone here wants to claim the nude unicyclist. Or the Boombox guy. I haven't quite solved that part.

    The hint, by the way, was obvious... a mason died that night. I think that is what it means.


    ----Or at least, I believe the first part is what Seireikhaan was implying. I think there's too much of a coincidence, and Seireikhaan is totally innocent, and I doubt he would try so hard to hint at something we'd need to figure out on our own if he wasn't absolutely sure about it.

    Assuming GeneralHankerchief allowed such posts, he hasn't stepped over the hinting line, and I had been suspecting Shlin for some time now, and my suspects voted him, and as soon as the thing with Tevash and Reenk was over, Shlin was next on my chopping block, for being totally irrelevant and unhelpful in his role as police chief.

    Good night, Shlin. I believe you're a henchman, not the Godfather, and so therefore if the game continues, Reenk should be next, then you. No hard feelings, but perhaps, just maybe, you shouldn't have gotten your mafia buddy to vote for you. It's a bit of a telling clue, and you should really have put on a better act instead of being a non-serious jokester with no clues and no reasons and no real suspects.

    If you all don't want Reenk to die next, you can choose between me and Shlin28. I for one don't care, but I suspect Reenk of being the scumbag, followed closely by Sasaki Kojiro for his absolutely stubborn refusal to listen to me and his consistent backing of my opponents.


    Seireikhaan, I totally understand your immense frustration now. From this perspective, you must have been grinding your teeth and shaking your head at our collective idiocy for quite a while. I sincerely apologize for not taking a closer look sooner.

    If I am dead wrong about this, so be it, but I see no other solution which explains all of your behavior.




    It saddens me you won't give me a benefit of the doubt for just one day. I am sorely disappointed in you.

    And yeah, I spent my valentines' day solving Seireikhaan's clues. Thanks.


    EDIT:
    Quote Originally Posted by TevashSzat View Post
    Okay, I can't believe this has gone this far already, but as per the rules of GH, the Detective cannot reveal privately to anyone.

    Thats right, guys, I am the Detective. That is partially the reason why I actually made a long rebuttal to ATPG's analysis of me. I wanted to head off any votes on me so I won't actually have to do a reveal, but here we are.

    If people don't trust me, fine, and go lynch me, but know that you will be killing your only detective and drastically reducing your chances of winning the game.

    This is what I have gotten from my investigations:

    Night 1: I investigated shlin, of course. If the mafia had somehow gotten the CoP, they would have a tremendous advantage.

    Result: Innocent. That means that shlin is definately not a Grunt, but he may still be the Godfather.

    Night 2: I investigated Sasaki this time. The Day lynching was somewhat of a choice between the lesser of two evils ie Seamus and Ichigo and I had no one jump out as being really scummy. Thus, I chose an old veteran that would definately be contributing to the town

    Result: Innocent.

    Night 3: Alas, did not manage to get in my results in time. I don't know what I was thinking, but I didn't send it in early.

    By the time I got back from school the next day, I had missed the night deadline by like an hour or so.....

    Night 4: Investigated YLC due to the whole thing with him there

    Results: Innocent. Meh, I still didn't know from then since he screamed scummy to me, but with ATPG's whole YLC thing I guess that explains it


    As for people who ask me why I didn't reveal earlier: When I had last saw the thread, ATPG was ahead of me in votes and I didn't think I was in that much of risk of getting lynched.

    Unfortunately, we tied. I still didn't reveal because I have had no results so far and it would be a shame to reveal so early.

    But now, here we are and I hope you guys like what you've forced me to do.

    BTW, I love how ATPG thinks taka is scummy for lurking when Ignoramus, who is on his "trusted people list" is lurking even more. Rythmic has basically done the same

    TevashSzat's role reveal is completely bogus.


    EDIT: Andres, I am sorry if I crossed a line. When confronted with numerous "my analysis is worthless" accusations I did my best to prove otherwise. And I don't flaunt my record, because I've made big errors before.

    I'm scheduled to die very shortly. Would anyone care to discuss anything with me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
    TevashSzat's role reveal is completely bogus.
    How?....unless you know something we don't....I don't think Khaan is the detective...

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    I doubt much of town has time to consider/analyze the new evidence presented by both sides.

    Unvote: Askthepizzaguy; Vote: TevashSzat to temporarily keep things tied. Although individuals can simply overturn this tie. (currently, tied at 7 a piece) And yes, thiss phase has lasted a bit too long too.

    @ GeneralHankerchief: HOw many hours are left before this phase ends?
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    Yes, ask me anything you like and give me more time to present my case. You have nothing to lose in hearing me out.


    Ask yourselves this:

    Imagine if Seireikhaan is the investigator, and decided to check Shlin28. Lo and behold, it came back scum. Then, he mentioned it in the thread, in a subtle way, and voted Shlin. He wanted to survive as the detective so he didn't reveal.

    Then, later, Tevash, under pressure, under threat of death, REVEALS he is the investigator, and clears Shlin28, his mafia buddy.

    How convenient.


    Will you do me the honor of trusting me, for JUST ONE ROUND.

    Talk to me. Ask me to restate simply my case against anyone here.


    https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...&postcount=218

    Seireikhaan's final vote.
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    Note: I CAN ONLY BE A GODFATHER OR TOWNIE! If I was a grunt and tried to be the CoP, I would be found out and lynched so fast before I can think of a decent lynch method.

    Why would, if I was a grunt, I take such a risk and try to become CoP?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    Yes, ask me anything you like and give me more time to present my case. You have nothing to lose in hearing me out.


    Ask yourselves this:

    Imagine if Seireikhaan is the investigator, and decided to check Shlin28. Lo and behold, it came back scum. Then, he mentioned it in the thread, in a subtle way, and voted Shlin. He wanted to survive as the detective so he didn't reveal.

    Then, later, Tevash, under pressure, under threat of death, REVEALS he is the investigator, and clears Shlin28, his mafia buddy.

    How convenient.


    Will you do me the honor of trusting me, for JUST ONE ROUND.
    It won't be that easy, to put more weight on such (Imagine), compared to someone claiming to be the detective. It might be easier to prove TS' innocence, by lynching you and see if TS gets targeted by next night (at which town has nothing to prevent it, I believe).
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    Quote Originally Posted by shlin28 View Post


    Note: I CAN ONLY BE A GODFATHER OR TOWNIE! If I was a grunt and tried to be the CoP, I would be found out and lynched so fast before I can think of a decent lynch method.

    Why would, if I was a grunt, I take such a risk and try to become CoP?
    Nailed you, Shlin. You gambled, took a risk. You lost. Stop squirming.

    You haven't done anything to help us all game, you lying mafioso.

    You were nailed by Seireikhaan right away and have been covering your tracks ever since. Nice of you to drop by at this critical time to give your scummy defense.





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