Israel: Murdering scientists?

**Hooahguy** · 02-19-2009, 17:03

Originally Posted by tibilicus

No, I'm not troubled by Iran yet hence I see the killing of scientists pointless. Your simply wrong if you buy in to the belief that Iran posses some kind of major military threat. Just like everyone else in the region its military is pretty much a joke when compared to Israel or any other western country.

I mean seriously its air force consists of old 50's and 70's knock off's, the same can probably said for their armour and their foot soldiers consist of millions of loonies armed with AK's.

I know I wouldn't be scared if I had my modern multi role fighters and mechanized military.

i repeat: the most dangerous thing in the world to do is to underestimate your enemies.

btw, AFAIK russia sold iran some very advanced AA technology, among other things, a few years ago.

btw, what about the fact that iran has EMP capability?
EMPs are much worse...

**Alexander the Pretty Good** · 02-19-2009, 17:05

How dare they arm themselves after being demonized for 20 years!

**Hax** · 02-19-2009, 17:10

what i do take very seriously is an unstable and despotic regime against israel holding nuclear weapons.

Iran has democratically elected presidents. Or was Khatami a joke?

**Furunculus** · 02-19-2009, 17:24

Originally Posted by Hax

Iran has democratically elected presidents. Or was Khatami a joke?

what a nice soundbite............... but does it have any substance. lets see:

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/D...ex_2007_v3.pdf

Iran = 139th out of 167 and filed under authoritarian regimes.

Israel = 47th and filed under flawed democracy just underneath Poland.

no, your statement has zero worthwhile content.

**Ser Clegane** · 02-19-2009, 17:37

Originally Posted by Furunculus

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/D...ex_2007_v3.pdf

Very interesting - something worth to take a closer look at

**CrossLOPER** · 02-19-2009, 18:07

Originally Posted by Furunculus

http://www.economist.com/media/pdf/D...ex_2007_v3.pdf

That looks somewhat flawed. Looking at one of the category scores, II Functioning of government, a country becomes more democratic if people "feel like" they're a democracy. The questions also appear to be either somewhat subjective or really technical. I think it could be much better if factors such as stability and well defined social conditions were added in.

**Furunculus** · 02-19-2009, 18:28

Originally Posted by CrossLOPER

That looks somewhat flawed. Looking at one of the category scores, II Functioning of government, a country becomes more democratic if people "feel like" they're a democracy. The questions also appear to be either somewhat subjective or really technical. I think it could be much better if factors such as stability and well defined social conditions were added in.

a bit like a political stability index:
http://www.pwc.com/extweb/service.ns...571d8005f0b12#
medium = israel
medium/low =
low = iran

or Eurasia Groups political risk index:
http://www.eurasiagroup.net/download...0Index%20(GPRI)

or a bit like the human development index?

http://hdr.undp.org/en/statistics/

israel = 24
iran = 84

regardless, anyone got a better democratic index..............................................................?

**CrossLOPER** · 02-19-2009, 18:39

Originally Posted by Furunculus

a bit like a political stability index:
http://www.pwc.com/extweb/service.ns...571d8005f0b12#

Something like that, but that has far more to do with economic status.

**Hooahguy** · 02-19-2009, 17:16

Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good

How dare they arm themselves after being demonized for 20 years!

people said that about Nazi Germany too....

**Hooahguy** · 02-19-2009, 18:02

ignore- dang this lousy internet connection...

**tibilicus** · 02-19-2009, 17:09

Originally Posted by hooahguy

i repeat: the most dangerous thing in the world to do is to underestimate your enemies.

btw, AFAIK russia sold iran some very advanced AA technology, among other things, a few years ago.

btw, what about the fact that iran has EMP capability?
EMPs are much worse...

Well if I'm reading what I am about EMP's they seem very advanced and other than a few sources there is no major evidence to suggest Iran has them.

Also if I'm understanding what an EMP does on a bit of a side not couldn't some one like Russia use an EMP to disable the US anti nuke shield? Does it work in a sense like that?

**Hooahguy** · 02-19-2009, 17:22

Originally Posted by tibilicus

Well if I'm reading what I am about EMP's they seem very advanced and other than a few sources there is no major evidence to suggest Iran has them.

Also if I'm understanding what an EMP does on a bit of a side not couldn't some one like Russia use an EMP to disable the US anti nuke shield? Does it work in a sense like that?

EMPs shuts down communications and other such things, AFAIK.
with that, they could shit down israels nuclear capability, then launch a nuke.
and IIRC, http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=44017