OOC Thread and Chatroom 2

[Zim]

Looks a lot better than mine.

[TinCow]

The drain of funds will become less of a problem if we get into battles with each other and kill off the large armies. Then the budget will be balanced, and we'll merely lack the troops necessary to keep order in and defend such a large territory.

I find the debt/deficit very interesting. As far as I'm aware, no PBM of any kind, succession or mega-game, has ever had to deal with a debt, let alone one this large. It will start to have huge implications on the game-play soon enough, and that in and of itself is fun. We're entering uncharted ground here.

(I'll get the various info posts updated with all the new civil war info later today.)

[TheFlax]

To both of the map makers, you placed Woad's capital in Yerevan, not Tbilisi.

Thanks for the map though.

[Rowan]

Just a quick FYI... I have been sick for the last 3 days, and according to the doctor will stay that way at least another 3 days... (&%@# influenza). So I won't be online much.

[TinCow]

Hope you feel better Rowan!

For anyone interested in history, it's worth noting that our current situation is not entirely without precedent. The death of a controversial Roman Emperor resulted in four separate and simultaneous claims to the title. The chaos caused by this in-fighting allowed several local rebellions to occur against Roman rule. Sound familiar?

And don't worry, there's plenty of other historical analogies even if we get a fifth or a sixth person claiming the throne. Ah, Roman history. I do love it so.

[ULC]

Just a little Rebel bashing, with a call to arms, and a bit of foreshadowing

[Ituralde]

We'll probably have more like a decade of the Four Emperors rathern than a year!

[mini]

Hi guys :)

just joined! I'd like to start out in the region Ragusa, since its bordered with ze germans, whom I own a can of whoop-ass.
Whose region is that, can I get permission to start there, and whose ass do i have to lick in order to make myself useful there? ;)

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Just a little Rebel bashing, with a call to arms, and a bit of foreshadowing

Lol.. it was quite entertaining. But Helarionas' men should be careful when saying those words since he himself was part of a rebellion against the Empire and not just recently he fought a civil war against other Senators!

Edit: mini - You should check the Library and especially Map Room where all the owners are mentioned!

[Ibn-Khaldun]

An interesting find:

1180 With the death of the Emperor, Manuel I Komnenos, the decline of the Empire recommences.
1185 A successful rebellion is organized in Bulgaria and other lands are lost in the Balkans.

Kind of similar to what has happened in lotR. Almost similar years too!

Transferring this to LotR:

With the death of the Emperor, Ioannis I Komnenos, the decline of the Empire recommences.
A successful rebellion is organized in Thrace and other lands are lost in Armenia and Pontus.

[TheFlax]

Ragusa is part of House Asteri and is owned by the House leader, Ioannis Kalameteros also known as "the Chivalrous" now it seems. Sadly the player of Ioannis, deguerra, is inactive right now due to computer problems.

Getting someone to give you men at this time won't be easy, we are pretty stretched thin. I'm not sure about what's going on at the Venetian front, but we could always use another commander in the East, fighting the Turks. You can either contact me or Ibn-Khaldun if you want to join the fight there, we'll find something for you to do.

Hi guys :)

just joined! I'd like to start out in the region Ragusa, since its bordered with ze germans, whom I own a can of whoop-ass.
Whose region is that, can I get permission to start there, and whose ass do i have to lick in order to make myself useful there? ;)

[ULC]

Can anyone tell me who controls Durazzo? And who gets to move Andreas?

[TheFlax]

Durazzo is controlled by Arintheos Voutoumis (Zim) and I think Andreas can be moved with permission of Asteri, since Marcus Agrippa has computer problems if I recall. Though, ever since his "escape" a few turns back he seems to be floating aimlessly in the Adriatic.

Can anyone tell me who controls Durazzo? And who gets to move Andreas?

[ULC]

Who's the current Asteri representative? I have need to speak to them.

[TheFlax]

That would be Rossahh or KnightandDay I think.

[miniwally]

Can someone put step by step what i have to do and where to put things to get this working i have kingdoms installed and the MTW:2 update for it if that matters so someone plz tell me what to do

[TheFlax]

This post should be of some help to you.

[miniwally]

i said before where do i install stainless steel to and do i need MTW:2 patch 1.2 and 1.3 if i have kingdoms as i think that installs an update

[Zim]

Here's the post on installation.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...89&postcount=3

If you have Kingdoms you don't need to worry about the 1.3 patch. That leaves just three steps left.

1. Here's the mod we use, an older version of Stainless Steel. It has an installer. Just double click on the file after downloading.

http://files.filefront.com/Stainless.../fileinfo.html

2. After that there's a patch for the mod, also with an installer.

http://files.filefront.com/Stainless.../fileinfo.html

3. Lastly, some fixes were added for LotR. I think the easiest of the two versions of that is this one, with an installer.

http://www.iki.fi/rowan/lotr-mod/LotRMod1.3.exe

[TheFlax]

I think you still have to install the patches of M2TW, regardless of Kingdoms. As for Stainless Steel, simply install it in your Medieval 2 Total War folder.

[TinCow]

I dont know how the game works with a Kingdoms install, as I don't have the expansion pack. If you can't make a clean M2TW install to play from, just skip to step 4 on the install instructions and see if it works.

Beaten to the punch.

[Zim]

Kingdoms updates MTW2 for you, as I learned after having to do many reinstalls.

Just try installing Kingdoms over MTW2 1.0 sometime, it will update your game to 1.2 before Kingdoms itself installs.

I think you still have to install the patches of M2TW, regardless of Kingdoms. As for Stainless Steel, simply install it in your Medieval 2 Total War folder.

[miniwally]

will this affect my vanilla MTW:2 game in any way?

[ULC]

No, Stainless Steel installs into a separate folder - it is in essence another game entirely.

[TinCow]

will this affect my vanilla MTW:2 game in any way?

Please do read the instructions and FAQ, they're there for a reason:

Q: Will this mod prevent me from playing the vanilla game?
A: No. The mods install in a separate "Stainless Steel" folder within your M2TW folder. They do not overwrite the original files. The shortcut provided for SS 4.1 will launch the game in the proper configuration for LotR. If you want to play the vanilla version of the game, just use the vanilla shortcut.

[miniwally]

and the lotr mod won't effect it as a different mod changed my game which ni didn't want it to so i had to uninstall it and then i lost disk 2 :P

[TinCow]

LOTRmod installs on top of the Stainless Steel mod. It does not impact the vanilla game in any way.

[miniwally]

Please do read the instructions and FAQ, they're there for a reason:

i have sorry i just like to be sure on these things

[woad&fangs]

I like the maps but...

-My capitol is at Tbilisi
-I also contol Diyarbakir, which Zim ceded to me before he broke his oath.

Talking about historical parallels...

A Basileus by the name of Andronikos Komnenos was desposed by the Angelos family. Tristan is now playing an avatar with the last name Angelos. The descendents of Andronikos established a kingdom in Pontus which would go on to outlast the rest of the Byzantine Empire(). Under the rule of the Megas Komnenoi, a cliffside monastery flourished and became an important place of Orthodox religion. Before I learned this, I described the location of the Order of St. Jude as a monastery jutting out of a mountain.

[ULC]

I like the maps but...

-My capitol is at Tbilisi
-I also contol Diyarbakir, which Zim ceded to me before he broke his oath.

Talking about historical parallels...

A Basileus by the name of Andronikos Komnenos was desposed by the Angelos family. Tristan is now playing an avatar with the last name Angelos. The descendents of Andronikos established a kingdom in Pontus which would go on to outlast the rest of the Byzantine Empire(). Under the rule of the Megas Komnenoi, a cliffside monastery flourished and became an important place of Orthodox religion. Before I learned this, I described the location of the Order of St. Jude as a monastery jutting out of a mountain.

Woad, I would not be so sure History is going to repeat itself...I mean, come 1210-15...