Legion vs. Phalanx online tournament

[Phalanx300]

It's called a noob box by those who let their enemy form one......

Not really, considering alot of vanilla players who use it form in in deployment phase. And game wise there is no way one can beat it without elephants or artillery(though in EB very toned down I gues?)

[IrishHitman]

Not really, considering alot of vanilla players who use it form in in deployment phase. And game wise there is no way one can beat it without elephants or artillery(though in EB very toned down I gues?)

Phalanx almost beat mine with a heavy combined attack on one side.
Only intervention by my cavalry and a centre unit to delay the fall saved me.

He almost had it beat.
EB pikes don't hold back the enemy as effectively as in RTW vanilla.

[Aemilius Paulus]

EB pikes don't hold back the enemy as effectively as in RTW vanilla.

You are kidding us right??? The EB phalanxes are near invincible. Please, someone help me out here. RTW phalanxes are ultra easy to get through, while the EB ones seem to employ some sort of magic to hold back just about anything excpet heavy cavalry.

[BurningEGO]

Hell, the box aint noob, but it is an extremely lame tactic!

Irish, you little lamer.

[A Very Super Market]

I don't like doing that. For me, if I can't form an effect phalanx line, I consider the battle lost. Though I wonder if a looser box formation would be acceptable?

[Tiberius Claudius Marcellus]

I am bringing it up with the other judges:

If a player gets into a box the battle should be considered a loss for that player IF the enemy is able to surround them.

This would be the result in a real battle, because no commander would assault such a monstrosity, and if they could surround it, no army could escape.

The definitions that I am giving them are that "Surrounded" would mean that at least 4 main infantry units and at least 2 other units of any type are stationary and physically touching each other to form a "ring" of sorts that encircles the "boxed" enemy.

We'll see what the judges vote on.

[IrishHitman]

I am bringing it up with the other judges:

If a player gets into a box the battle should be considered a loss for that player IF the enemy is able to surround them.

This would be the result in a real battle, because no commander would assault such a monstrosity, and if they could surround it, no army could escape.

The definitions that I am giving them are that "Surrounded" would mean that at least 4 main infantry units and at least 2 other units of any type are stationary and physically touching each other to form a "ring" of sorts that encircles the "boxed" enemy.

We'll see what the judges vote on.

I would argue in favour of a time limit before that.
A box still contains a reasonable amount of fighting power anyway, give the player a few mins to launch an attack from the box formation.

You are kidding us right??? The EB phalanxes are near invincible. Please, someone help me out here. RTW phalanxes are ultra easy to get through, while the EB ones seem to employ some sort of magic to hold back just about anything excpet heavy cavalry.

Tell that to the RTW vanilla boxes, which are pretty much invincible.
Even to heavy cav. RTW vanilla phalanx formations don't break up as easily is why.

[Potocello]

I am bringing it up with the other judges:

If a player gets into a box the battle should be considered a loss for that player IF the enemy is able to surround them.

This would be the result in a real battle, because no commander would assault such a monstrosity, and if they could surround it, no army could escape.

The definitions that I am giving them are that "Surrounded" would mean that at least 4 main infantry units and at least 2 other units of any type are stationary and physically touching each other to form a "ring" of sorts that encircles the "boxed" enemy.

We'll see what the judges vote on.

I would have to agree with this because after a while the boxed in guys would either have to attack or die of starvation or suicide or something... I think that if you make a box you have to formulate an attack or you lose.

[antisocialmunky]

I think something like this happenedi n one of the Syrian Wars(Battle of Raphia) where the Seleucids formed a box. It worked alright until the Elephants inside the box panicked.

[Lucio Domicio Aureliano]

I would have to agree with this because after a while the boxed in guys would either have to attack or die of starvation or suicide or something... I think that if you make a box you have to formulate an attack or you lose.

I believe the box you can form in TW can´t be formed in real life because unlike TW you can´t have all the perimeter protected with pikes since you can´t put one unit inside of the other. For this reason and the others already pointed, i agree with Potocello. Btw, i´ve been seeing the battles and i must say they´re pretty nice and i didn´t think this tournament could be so fun

[IrishHitman]

I believe the box you can form in TW can´t be formed in real life because unlike TW you can´t have all the perimeter protected with pikes since you can´t put one unit inside of the other. For this reason and the others already pointed, i agree with Potocello. Btw, i´ve been seeing the battles and i must say they´re pretty nice and i didn´t think this tournament could be so fun

Ah, but in real life, you can form a circle.

[IrishHitman]

Potocello (Roman Republic) vs. IrishHitman (Kingdom of Makedonia)

http://www.mediafire.com/?jinlmugqzq5

Victory to IrishHitman.

A good battle, could have went either way.
Engaged the Roman line, the battle went to the flanks (as it usually does when playing with Mak), and I eventually destroyed the Roman centre, and used the remaining troops to rout the rest.

A rematch soon.

[antisocialmunky]

So what is it?
(Hellens, Draws, Romans)
3-2-0?

[Potocello]

I think these are just test games so we can work out the kinks. But Rome has defiantly won more with Tolg so i don't know that to score is.