The fight for Inishmore [Concluded]

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Thanks for not lynching me. Boo to those of you who nearly did. It would have been just as much a waste for town as lynching Ares was.

So your defense is "well, I'm innocent, thanks"?

[Ituralde]

So Ares really did make up those arguments, interesting. Also I would have preferred a double lynch just to be sure. And whether you believe me or not I was actually expecting the vote to be over by the time I logged on this morning and wanted to use the time I had to catch up with the discussion.

We're already down to Night 4, I hope the town gets some support from the detective come the next Day phase, he should have found something to work with. ATPGs idea to get the information to us might actually work, though it is wide open to abuse.

[LittleGrizzly]

Boudica i don't know if your in a position to criticise those who voted for you.... voting atpg has got to be the one of the easiest votes to make... not that it makes you scum but mafia sometimes like going for the easy cases... like atpg...

All this being said watch this turn out to be the game ATPG is scum... better lynch him otherwise i may look stupid... ;)

[Thermal]

I don't mind you choosing to lynch me, just don't keep telling people what to do when your not always right

edit: actually your not controlling your just heavily influencing, I apologize

[Thermal]

Thanks for not lynching me. Boo to those of you who nearly did. It would have been just as much a waste for town as lynching Ares was.

As a 'townie' you really shouldn't need to tell us that... (yes I used ellipses DEAL with it )

[Reenk Roink]

edit: actually your not controlling your just heavily influencing, I apologize

I tried to save you Ares, you will be avenged.

Dear Mafia, contact me and we can like work together for a bit killing off people who don't share my point of view. I promise not to betray you until the end.

[Askthepizzaguy]

To make it easier on me, I'm responding to each in one post, and giving you all cute but inappropriate nicknames, like George W. Bush does.



Itsy Bitsy Spider-

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So Ares really did make up those arguments, interesting. Also I would have preferred a double lynch just to be sure. And whether you believe me or not I was actually expecting the vote to be over by the time I logged on this morning and wanted to use the time I had to catch up with the discussion.

We're already down to Night 4, I hope the town gets some support from the detective come the next Day phase, he should have found something to work with. ATPGs idea to get the information to us might actually work, though it is wide open to abuse.

Anyone who claims to be an investigator can have their so-called facts checked. We lynch the person they investigate, and if they don't have a role.... you have a liar on your hands.

Papa Bear-

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Boudica i don't know if your in a position to criticise those who voted for you.... voting atpg has got to be the one of the easiest votes to make... not that it makes you scum but mafia sometimes like going for the easy cases... like atpg...

All this being said watch this turn out to be the game ATPG is scum... better lynch him otherwise i may look stupid... ;)

Thanks for the vote of confidence Papa Bear, seems I will never make it all the way through a game, and I don't care to do so. I love being dead. I already basically committed suicide twice this game, on the first round and again this last one, and I offer myself a third time later on if I fail to catch any scum. It would be easier for me to assist you guys if I didn't have to respond to calls for my lynch. Either decide to do so or wait a bit. I am honoured you still think I could be mafia after my behavior so far this game. I consider it a high compliment, but even I am not so willing to stick my neck out. Your benefit of the doubt warms my rotting zombie heart.

God Boy-

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I don't mind you choosing to lynch me, just don't keep telling people what to do when your not always right

edit: actually your not controlling your just heavily influencing, I apologize

I didn't tell anyone to do anything! I asked people to spare boudica for a round, because you were acting more strangely to me than she was. Turns out you were being your usual 777Ares777 self. Now I made myself and boudica look guilty, which is the price I pay for being wrong about you. I don't believe it would have been a responsible townie move to let the round end in a tie. Runoff and delay of game because no one had the Balzac to pick between the two of you? Double lynch? The game had to progress and I was the only one willing to make it happen.

Roinktastic Bus-

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I tried to save you Ares, you will be avenged.

Dear Mafia, contact me and we can like work together for a bit killing off people who don't share my point of view. I promise not to betray you until the end.

How deliciously devious. I'd like the mafia to contact me too. But not just because I stole the idea from Reenk. I'd like to re-reveal to everyone in the game that I am the Irish Godfather, just as I said. The English mafia cannot afford to take a gamble, can they? Pick me! Pick me!

[LittleGrizzly]

Thanks for the vote of confidence Papa Bear, seems I will never make it all the way through a game, and I don't care to do so. I love being dead. I already basically committed suicide twice this game, on the first round and again this last one, and I offer myself a third time later on if I fail to catch any scum. It would be easier for me to assist you guys if I didn't have to respond to calls for my lynch. Either decide to do so or wait a bit. I am honoured you still think I could be mafia after my behavior so far this game. I consider it a high compliment, but even I am not so willing to stick my neck out. Your benefit of the doubt warms my rotting zombie heart.

The last line was a joke... i meant what i said about boudica choosing you as an easy vote/lynch...

[Askthepizzaguy]

I know it was. There hasn't been an easier lynch all game.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I tried to save you Ares, you will be avenged.

Dear Mafia, contact me and we can like work together for a bit killing off people who don't share my point of view. I promise not to betray you until the end.

Scarily enough, I think they might consider it AND I believe you would honor such a promise.

Reenk, you are abso-********-lutely awesome.

[boudica]

So your defense is "well, I'm innocent, thanks"?

Defense? Defending oneself in a close lynch vote that one didn't even read up on properly til after the event: I think you'll find is impossible.

I already said I was a fine choice of lynch given my lack of participation, but a bad one given my innocence. I stick by that - and kind of don't really mind - As a relative newcomer to mafia, I was reticent about joining a third game after discovering not so long ago that 2 was my limit - and now I have more RL work on than I thought I would have to boot.

My only shame in being lynched tomorrow would be that I have already served town poorly.

- Also, a bit about my vote for Askthepizzaguy and how I was admonished by Little Grizzley for it. All I can say is that I can only play the posts in the thread in front of me, and though I try not to cross-game - you even 'jokingly' said yourself that this would be the one time that super-keen super-town pizza guy would turn out to be mafia. Now you said you were joking when ATPG thanked you for it, but you still said it and the fact that you (assuming you are a townie) don't want to be caught out, coupled with the fact that we know ATPG will keep on investigating even when he is rotting in the ground IS the reason that ATPG keeps getting lynched.

So far I've voted for a zombie detective without a badge and before that - a 'God-like master' who displays the very scummy qualities that he himself claims in this very thread
If that makes me guilty - go ahead and lynch me

[LittleGrizzly]

It was just a criticism of your choice of an easy lynch, doesn't nessecarily make you guilty....

What i meant was the joke was the lynch him now part... otherwise i would have voted for him with you..

I am slightly worried that i could campaign for ATPG to stay alive and then it turns out he's mafia... would be twisted, but i don't expect it...

anything else...

ohh yeah Vote Boudica

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Defense? Defending oneself in a close lynch vote that one didn't even read up on properly til after the event: I think you'll find is impossible.

I meant towards the reasons people voted you earlier...the fact that the vote got to the point where it was tied is a point in your favor though. I think looking back on this round some time from now will give a better view of your guilt/innocence.

[Thermal]

Scarily enough, I think they might consider it AND I believe you would honor such a promise.

Reenk, you are abso-********-lutely awesome.

what curse would fit into that gap thats 8 letters long? I'll go with 7


Reenk, you are abso-*******-lutely blingin!

[Seamus Fermanagh]

what curse would fit into that gap thats 8 letters long? I'll go with 7

I meant "freaking," but was worried that it might be too harsh for present company.

[pevergreen]

greyblades, for your post (#716) consider this a warning...no screenshots.

Thank you.

[Greyblades]

Well just quoteing it would have probably gotten me accused of faking a PM. But if that is your rules then im fine with it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Now you said you were joking when ATPG thanked you for it, but you still said it and the fact that you (assuming you are a townie) don't want to be caught out, coupled with the fact that we know ATPG will keep on investigating even when he is rotting in the ground IS the reason that ATPG keeps getting lynched.

Yakety Yak, in spoilers.

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First of all, boudica's defense satisfies me. (Imagine that! No one saw that coming) I did indeed invite votes on myself, and you really can't criticize someone who does vote for me after I do that. My only criticism with her was that she didn't seem to be paying attention to the facts. On reflection; that doesn't indicate to me that she has a role. If she had a valuable role, for example, she would want to be very careful who she chooses to have night actions performed on.
(...I could make a joke here, but I'll abstain, courteously. )

I'm fine with the lynch Askthepizzaguy early policy at present, however I would like to suggest that it's not wise to do so every game. If I end up with a good role, you could be hurting the town, and it could end up being less fun. Imagine if I did get saddled with a godfather role, for example. Your game would be over on round one, and then... no real reason to assemble 30 people just to slaughter me. It would be amusing in retrospect but also less fun. To me, if I ever got such a role, I'd be squirming the whole game because I'd know I was doomed.

We should mix it up. I've noticed boudica, for example, getting stomped pretty quick by the lynch due to her recent streak of mafia roles, and others like CountArach or Tratorix or Ignoramus getting murdered but not lynched due to previous games where they were less talkative post-death. Just so that everyone gets a fair shake, I think that we should take note of settling into predictable patterns. I'd like to see players like those mentioned survive longer into a game, and have a shot at maybe winning such a game as mafia. You'll also notice right away when some of these players don't get murdered, and probably lynch them for the unusual nature of their survival, and at that point; the players could be asking themselves "when will I get a break?"

Lynching the lurkers every game, shouldn't happen. It should happen enough times to discourage lurking, and to encourage discussion, in my opinion; you may disagree. Lurking is a valid strategy and lurkers will never be talkers. And if we make the lurkers scapegoats every game, they may not want to play anymore. At some point, I'll be changing my methods as well and will hope to survive at least to the mid-game on occasion. For now, I think it is a good tactic in games with lots of pro-town roles to have a volunteer to die, and for the present moment, that would be me. Others may volunteer in the future.

[A Very Super Market]

If the godfather DID get lynched round one on a large game like this, we would be permitted to restart, right?

[LittleGrizzly]

If he did theres another one left to kill...

BTW ATPG's talking to much... lynch him

[Askthepizzaguy]

@AVSM-

Up to the host

@Papa Bear-

Make up your mind!!!

[Sasaki Kojiro]

To me, if I ever got such a role, I'd be squirming the whole game because I'd know I was doomed.

So, never offer yourself up for lynch.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Well just quoteing it would have probably gotten me accused of faking a PM. But if that is your rules then im fine with it.

Grey: That's exactly the point. If screenshots are allowed then the ONLY thing that will be accepted is screenshots and any who won't provide them must be guilty. Game over, boring. So, in the interests of play.....

...Even though it creates situations where two mafiosoi can claim they're BOTH detective and the real detective must be fake and actually get him LYNCHED with their fake PMs ...

... the no screenies rule is an important one.

[Reenk Roink]

Grey: That's exactly the point. If screenshots are allowed then the ONLY thing that will be accepted is screenshots and any who won't provide them must be guilty. Game over, boring. So, in the interests of play.....

...Even though it creates situations where two mafiosoi can claim they're BOTH detective and the real detective must be fake and actually get him LYNCHED with their fake PMs ...

... the no screenies rule is an important one.

Even I use it in my game and you all know how permissive I am.

Also, The Wanax is the friend of the Bible killer once again... The Bible killer does not know this yet...

[Diana Abnoba]

Got caught up on thread, will be back tomorrow on day phase to vote before going to work IRL.

[pevergreen]

It was a warm night and murder was at large. YLC didn't care for it as he stepped outside to take a leak. Too much Guinness - it would be the end of him. The silver of blades flickered in the darkness and YLC lay there in a pool of piss and blood.
Happy with himself Mike Fingers leaned down to tie a knot in his shoelace. Humming a tune he tucks away his knives and strolls off. Not noticing the cat - watching him - apparently intent on cleaning her fur.

Blackadder went in to the Mcdoogals bar and ordered a pint. This time the guy serving the drinks was Brendan. You knew here? Said Blackadder. Youre not the usual barkeep. Brendan said no, I had to kill him because he wont fight for ireland. Blackadder said what??? Brendan said Its too bad, he was a good lad. Now, will you fight for ireland or do I have to kill you to? Blackadder jumped over the bar and said those are fightin words. But Brendan stabbed him in the neck and the fight was over. Blackadder bled in to the handkerchief in his pocket and Brendan left a card stuck in the hole in his neck that said Two Blind Mice.

In the back room of Mcdoogals, a man said to pevergreen, "He's made me an offer I can't refuse."
pevergreen nodded with a hint of a smile in his eyes.

Alive:
Andres
Askthepizzaguy
shlin28
LittleGrizzly
Reenk Roink
GeneralHankerchief
Sasaki Kojiro
Lord Winter
White Eyes
Seamus
Factionheir
serierkhaan
yoyoma1910
Diana Abnoba
boudica
Sigurd
greyblades
Ituralde
El Diablo

Dead:
Publius Aelius Hadrianus
A Very Super Market
Jolt
taka
Polemists
gaelic cowboy
Alexander the Pretty Good
CountArach
Psychonaut
YLC
Captain Blackadder

Lynched:
Beefy187
F.C is the bees knees
777ares777

It is now Day 5.

[Andres]

Vote : Abstain

Apparently, I have to read about 10 "new" pages

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hello Reenk Roink! Just a few questions and comments.

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Also, The Wanax is the friend of the Bible killer once again... The Bible killer does not know this yet...

What's this mean, Reenk? You're the Wanax, apparently. Who is the Bible killer?

Dear Mafia, contact me and we can like work together for a bit killing off people who don't share my point of view. I promise not to betray you until the end

Yeah, that's not suspicious.

It was a warm night and murder was at large. YLC didn't care for it as he stepped outside to take a leak. Too much Guinness - it would be the end of him. The silver of blades flickered in the darkness and YLC lay there in a pool of piss and blood.
Happy with himself Mike Fingers leaned down to tie a knot in his shoelace. Humming a tune he tucks away his knives and strolls off. Not noticing the cat - watching him - apparently intent on cleaning her fur.

A new murderer? How interesting. And the implication is obviously that it's Greyblades who did the kill, though I cannot fathom Greyblades intentionally incriminating himself.

In the back room of Mcdoogals, a man said to pevergreen, "He's made me an offer I can't refuse." pevergreen nodded with a hint of a smile in his eyes.

So, the mafia are recruiting now, are they?

Also boudica may be acting strange but she has been very busy and also she may prove of much use to me, do not move to lynch her or you may die. Thanks.

I don't quite follow this, even in retrospect. You keep accusing others of foul play, but you're clearly up to no good.

That is all. Thank you for listening to my fascist questions. Have a pint for the trouble.


Edit: More...

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Bible killer eh.... what game were you in with someone that sounds like a hankerchief...

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The Conclusion


Generalhankerchief invited TevashSzat outside for a victory celebration dinner which he offered to cook. They would drink wine and eat chicken and lamb and pork (as there was no more beefyz) and would tell stories of their glorious victory.

(SNIP)

Tevash: "You're no mere computer engineer..."

GeneralHankerchief: "And you're not just the mastermind of our heist. You wanted the gold to yourself all along."

Tevash: "At last we understand each other!!! Die, comrade!"

(SNIP)

The General prepared the killing blow but Tevash ducked into woad's cabin, and flung the Bible at the General in retaliation. He only had a few bullets left, and wanted to make sure they counted. The General ran down the hall, and whipped the assassin's sword back in Tevash's direction, just as Tevash turned the corner and fired a spray of bullets.

GeneralHankerchief's face was torn to shreds, and he died instantly. Tevash laughed and laughed as he watched his final opponent die. When he looked down, he saw the sword embedded in his stomach... and the blood pouring onto the deck. He felt surprisingly little pain, and dropped to his knees.

"Why???" Tevash moaned.

Within minutes, he was dead as well. He lost consciousness and passed out, face down on the Bible.

GeneralHankerchief and Reenk Roink, both players in the Golden Rule game, GH with a murder involving a Bible, Reenk looking to be recruited in this game, Reenk referring to himself as the Wanax, and a new murderer in the latest writeup... plus a reference to handkerchiefs in the second writeup. Plus the wonderful segment about making an offer you can't refuse.

Coincidences, all, I am sure.

[FactionHeir]

Hmmm looks like a new England killer?

[Askthepizzaguy]

I doubt that Oswald got WOG'ed, and there was never any writeup with his death, so probably an additional killer for England, or just as likely... a third mafia family has formed.

Pizza no like. Bad medicine.