Swords in the Moon [Concluded]

[FactionHeir]

Where's Sigurd when you need him....need to find out the chances of TC beating YLC.

[Beskar]

He reminds me of PrivateerKev in many ways.

Who is he?.

Husar saved himself.

How is that even possible? I never heard of a mafia-game like that.

As a side-note: people love their bandwagons. I am not a mafia-role, and I don't think TinCow might be one either for reasons. Something very fishy is going on and I think people are being played by the mafia

[Prince Cobra]

I have little experience with Martial Arts and what TinCow did is quite practiced in the martial arts. Have in mind that samurai also knew the martial arts well, not only ninja. My vote on Beskar stays. I will take this risk.

TinCow is not a closed case, though.

[Beskar]

Lets get rid of two suspects in one round. That way we can move on.

Though I am actually innocent and I believe there is actually evidence showing that TinCow is actually innocent himself. Way to go with assisting the Mafia.

I also believe Rhyfelwyr to be innocent as well.

Actually if anything, me, TonCow and Rhyfelwyr, CountArach are basically the only confirmed innocents. Husar and Sasaki could be innocent, but nothing proven. The rest are unknown.

So only someone who is trying to purposely kill townies are voting, as that what they are doing.

Want to know why? Rhyfelwyr posted his role note on the forum, which was very similar to my own, I posted a modified version but I wasn;t a vet, so mine was slightly different to Rhy's. TinCow posted one identical to my own, look at my mock and his and you can see the similarities, splitpersonality also said that TinCow's which is also identical to my own, was the same as his and he was killed. Using this logic, me, TinCow and Rhyfelwyr are actually innocent.

Husar managed to defend himself from ninja, I am not sure why or how, but I am suspecting he might be a pro-town role.

CountArach well, self-explanatory.

Sasaki got defended from traitor, doesn't absolve him, but there must be something to it.

Oh, anyone posting role pm's are now void, since they could just copy&paste them.


Now, everyone who has voted should seriously rethink their votes, as if they vote for anyone just mentioned as innocent, they are purposely trying to kill townies, and I believe they should be the ones killed as possible mafia-roles, not an innocent which will let more innocent players die and mafia-role people to survive and win the game.

Oh and since the Mafia now might try to kill me, TinCow and Rhywr purposely, not going after us would actually give you a better chance for survival.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Though I am actually innocent and I believe there is actually evidence showing that TinCow is actually innocent himself. Way to go with assisting the Mafia.

I also believe Rhyfelwyr to be innocent as well.

Actually if anything, me, TonCow and Rhyfelwyr, CountArach are basically the only confirmed innocents. Husar and Sasaki could be innocent, but nothing proven. The rest are unknown.

So only someone who is trying to purposely kill townies are voting, as that what they are doing.

Want to know why? Rhyfelwyr posted his role note on the forum, which was very similar to my own, I posted a modified version but I wasn;t a vet, so mine was slightly different to Rhy's. TinCow posted one identical to my own, look at my mock and his and you can see the similarities, splitpersonality also said that TinCow's which is also identical to my own, was the same as his and he was killed. Using this logic, me, TinCow and Rhyfelwyr are actually innocent.

It is common practice for hosts to give the mafia the townie pm. TinCow came under fire for asking for it to be posted because townies don't know whether the mafia have it or not. But no, no ones innocence is proven by posting a pm.

Crazed Rabbits death from last night interests me. We'll see if the sword cleaning killer returns.

[Prince Cobra]

It is common practice for hosts to give the mafia the townie pm. TinCow came under fire for asking for it to be posted because townies don't know whether the mafia have it or not. But no, no ones innocence is proven by posting a pm.

Crazed Rabbits death from last night interests me. We'll see if the sword cleaning killer returns.

Forgive me Sasaki but you were probably wrong about Tosa... Maybe it is a bit hastily to sentence TinCow to death. Why do you defend Beskar so much? Leave TinCow to the duelling. If he survives, we can decide his fate.

[Beskar]

It is common practice for hosts to give the mafia the townie pm.

That sucks. In the mafia games I played, you get it on a card and you are not allowed to show your card at all. In the warcraft 3 version, there is only one mafia-role depending on the type of map, and they either have a normal unit or a townie unit, or they can "morph" into anonymous unit and you have to use things such as floor number and different variables to work it out.

However, I am still innocent. :D

Why do you defend Beskar so much

Why do you attack me so much?

[Sasaki Kojiro]

I think beskar has a good chance of being guilty. Usually in mafia games you are wrong the majority of the time in your suspects. Given tincow's performance in the duel--I find it unlikely that he will be killed that way.

I was only a veteran Samurai with a ridiculously high battle rating, essentially a low chance daykill vigilante.

[Beskar]

Given tincow's performance in the duel--I find it unlikely that he will be killed that way.

The difference in 3 and 5 don't look extreme to me. Rediciliously high rating would have been like 15.

[woad&fangs]

A duel between me and TinCow should result in a close fight. His victory over YLC is explainable as a fluke. However, if he defeats me by a large margin he is likely lying about his skill rating. That is why I challenged him.

[Prince Cobra]

I think beskar has a good chance of being guilty. Usually in mafia games you are wrong the majority of the time in your suspects. Given tincow's performance in the duel--I find it unlikely that he will be killed that way.

In the rules Andres-sama posted that this can happen. Maybe we have to wait and see. Who knows...

It was unlikely that YLC will be killed.

[Wishazu]

Vote: Beskar For no other reason than his blunt and agressive posting style matches the "MO" of one of the killers...

I`m am not yet convinced of Tincows guilt, if he lied about his battle rating he would not have required any luck at all to block a rash attack from a battle level 5 Samurai...

[Dutch_guy]

I think beskar has a good chance of being guilty. Usually in mafia games you are wrong the majority of the time in your suspects. Given tincow's performance in the duel--I find it unlikely that he will be killed that way.

Not at all, it could indeed be the case that YLC had a lower rating and TC got lucky (if he is not lying about his rating, this is possible). Of no means a guaranteed duel winner, especially if we are to believe TC's said rating.

[TinCow]

It is common practice for hosts to give the mafia the townie pm.

Some hosts. Andres has never done it before.

[AggonyDuck]

Husar managed to defend himself from ninja, I am not sure why or how, but I am suspecting he might be a pro-town role.

I think it's pretty clear that Husar is one of the swordmasters, atleast on the basis of the write-up, but it remains to be seen how his injury will affect his abilities.

[Sasaki Kojiro]

Not at all, it could indeed be the case that YLC had a lower rating and TC got lucky (if he is not lying about his rating, this is possible). Of no means a guaranteed duel winner, especially if we are to believe TC's said rating.

This was not the point--I was giving a reason for lynching TC rather than putting faith in killing him via duel.

Some hosts. Andres has never done it before.

Have any of his big games had a townie pm?

[TinCow]

This was not the point--I was giving a reason for lynching TC rather than putting faith in killing him via duel.



Have any of his big games had a townie pm?

I had a townie PM from him in both Taormina and Ephesus.

[AggonyDuck]

Out of the two bandwagon options, none really satisfies me. For some reason Wishazu tingles my gut. Might be that something feels a bit off in his posts.

Vote: Wishazu

[Wishazu]

Might be that something feels a bit off in his posts.

Such as?

[A Very Super Market]

Lurking has failed us today.....

[PershsNhpios]

I now suspect Rhyfelwyr much more.
And not only because I was suddenly targeted after challenging him, (perhaps I was considered a danger because I won a duel previously?), but because of his very weak reasoning for joining the bandwagons which he has.
He has been active in the game, but contributed nothing to the intelligent discourse, and his style reminds me very much of Beefy when he is playing as mafia.

Leave TinCow alone...

[White_eyes:D]

Leave TinCow alone...

No....he is lying though his teeth....he BEAT "The Crimson Demon"...and he claims a duel score of 3??
Die Ninja scum

[Seamus Fermanagh]

It would seem that lynches and duels have accomplished little; the ninja still attack three per night and the other faction one more. I suspect that one or more of our baddies are simply lurking away and relying on the numbers -- which works in huge games as I well know.

I am inclined, provisionally, to assume Husar and Sasaki are innocent. Husar defended himself but was hurt badly in the process. This strikes me as very much how I would narrate a "defeats first night kill effort special ability. Both appear to have been targeted by the mafia. Doesn't preclude them being in the traitor sub faction, but a strict numbers interp favors innocence.

YLC made a fairly specific claim as to his duel rating. Based on that I have questions for:

Andres: Is there any real chance of a lower score defeating a higher score duelist, or is this chance very small?

Arach: Was YLC's duel score a 5 or higher (presuming 3 is the average samurai score -- as a lack of argument with above reveals seems to indicate?

[KukriKhan]

Lurkers, previously safe within their caves, begin to emerge.

Interesting.

Please, Yoyoma, a haiku for the occasion. :)

My offering:

Petals fall aground
stamen remains to feed bee
life and death proceed

[Gregoshi]

If CA posts that you had a high duel score, I'll just retire from this game. Under those circumstances, I doubt anyone will believe anything I have to say until its over.

That would depend upon the circumstances of your death, wouldn't it? If it is an honourable one, you are vindicated and you can still serve Lord Shingen as a Samurai Ghost. Apart from voting for lynchings, your analytical skills would still be useful - in the same way mine are not.

[Csargo]

Vote:Beskar

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[PershsNhpios]

Why.... is the Haiku..
Eternally inclusive
Of petals or life?

[Crazed Rabbit]

Sheesh, I pop up with a tiny bit of activity and get killed off.

Well, for goodness' sake people, LYNCH TINCOW.

He's terribly inconsistent on the whole role posting thing. Especially with the claim that he couldn't have forged his.

IIRC, this is the fellow who has made some massively impressive forged PMs in past games, which would make turning a known vet samurai PM into a samurai PM easy.

CR

[Haudegen]

I can confirm that the role-pm TinCow posted looks genuine.

YLC (aka Sanada Yukimura) was undoubtedly one of Lord Takeda´s swordsmen becaused he was named after a historic person who served Takeda.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sanada_Yukimura

To me, it looks like TinCow fluked a duel victory against YLC. The write up mentions that "pure luck" played a role. So TinCows defense makes some sense.

TinCow, did you receive a bonus to your battle rating after this duel? How high is it now?

[Gregoshi]

Disclaimer: the following fabricates "facts" in the game as needed for artistic purposes. All in the name a of little fun (hopefully).

Start spreadin' the noose, for lynching today
I want to be a part of it - TinCow TinCow!
These dead geisha blues, I can't vote anyway
Got stabbed right in the heart by him - TinCow TinCow!

We won't wake up in the mornin' - couldn't sleep
Because the ninjas that kill - when we're countin' sheep.

The townies are blue, they're dying away
Today they'll find a new scapgoat - in ol' TinCow.
If we can lynch him now, with no proof anyhow
It will be you - Tin-Cow Tin-Cow!