Originally Posted by Beskar:
Hard to explain as there is a really strong gut feeling I had since a while ago for Ichigo. I had suspicions since early on and I wanted BG to investigate him for me, however, BQ didn't live that night. However, look at Ichigo's case, there is nothing that even suggests a town-role, any form of aid, advice or logic. He has repeatedly voted on bandwagons or against innocents. Hell, he has never actually denied being a mafia-role either when accused.
Even then, there is as you said:
How long ago?
Oh, btw I'm innocent.
Yoyoma1910 16:51 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by
Kagemusha:
Have you guys gone utterly mad? This very well might be our final round when we have even slightest chance to still win the mafia and people start randomly challenging people like this.
Are you guys in hurry to loose to the mafia?
1st point is that the only thing we can base anything is Banguos list and people voting others from that list are either acting like buffoons or they are scum. Also Yoyoma1910 now suddenly starts challenging people with nonsensical reasoning. Have you run out of poems or could you be in bit of a hurry to ensure mafia victory? If there is anyone scummy among the people left its him. Vote: Yoyoma1910
What crime is it
For me to desire
Post be made
In a format
More simple
And elegant?
And how is my reasoning nonsensical?
A replacement arrives, and the OX houred killer,
Who stabs in the eyes returns.
Tell me the nonsense in challenging the man who arrived?
Why do you find it so?
Defend your accusation.
Originally Posted by Ichigo:
Oh, btw I'm innocent.
Well, you convinced me to change my vote.
Got any reasons for people not to vote for you? Any evidence or proof of your innocent? People have been lynched for less suspicion than you.
Edit: I am actually the last person on the innocent list? Looks like my prediction was correct then, I thought two of the people who were killed were not on it. Doh....
Yaropolk 18:09 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by Beskar:
I am actually the last person on the innocent list? Looks like my prediction was correct then, I thought two of the people who were killed were not on it. Doh....
That is not the case:
https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...96#post2227396
Seamus Fermanagh 18:10 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by Yaropolk:
Sasaki, why are you so focused on lynching Beskar?
Sasaki is still convinced that BG's innocent list features a hidden "godfather" of the ninjas and that ending everyone on that list will produce a win.
Kagemusha 18:20 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910:
What crime is it
For me to desire
Post be made
In a format
More simple
And elegant?
And how is my reasoning nonsensical?
A replacement arrives, and the OX houred killer,
Who stabs in the eyes returns.
Tell me the nonsense in challenging the man who arrived?
Why do you find it so?
Defend your accusation.
Well my friend because if you think he might be guilty, surely you should vote for him and make a case against him,no? Also now that our numbers are low why are you risking your own life in duel and die in vain, if you are just an innocent townie with low duel rate? Could the reason be that you are not worried about dying in the duel because you have a high duel rating. Thus we are back at my original case against you.
Yoyoma1910 18:36 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by Kagemusha:
Well my friend because if you think he might be guilty, surely you should vote for him and make a case against him,no? Also now that our numbers are low why are you risking your own life in duel and die in vain, if you are just an innocent townie with low duel rate? Could the reason be that you are not worried about dying in the duel because you have a high duel rating. Thus we are back at my original case against you.
There is a chance I may die,
But should prefer it be with honor in battle.
Rather than in bed,
Like some turtle
Slumbering
In the afternoon sun.
And if the Count has posted
Accurately,
Our ratings are reasonably
The same.
My vote:
I am still contemplating
Who is leading,
And who is following.
Kagemusha 19:32 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910:
There is a chance I may die,
But should prefer it be with honor in battle.
Rather than in bed,
Like some turtle
Slumbering
In the afternoon sun.
And if the Count has posted
Accurately,
Our ratings are reasonably
The same.
My vote:
I am still contemplating
Who is leading,
And who is following.
Surely this is no talk of Samurai. You live to die for your master. Your petty ambitions should not interfere you from protecting him with your life. If you die in vain you have failed your master and yourself by not being there to protect him.
Yoyoma1910 19:37 05-08-2009
You are a coward!
Challenge me!
Or are you simply some peasant with a stick?
Yaropolk 20:23 05-08-2009
Yoyoma's argument about the ox may hold some water, don't condemn him yet. Your poems are really annoying though
Two of
Beskar's challengers from last night bit the dust - I think he does protest too much. We should really lynch him, I dont know how he survived this long.
Yoyoma1910 20:32 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by
Yaropolk:
Yoyoma's argument about the ox may hold some water, don't condemn him yet. Your poems are really annoying though 
You insult my art?
Challenge me!
Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh:
Sasaki is still convinced that BG's innocent list features a hidden "godfather" of the ninjas and that ending everyone on that list will produce a win.
Only hidden godfather would have been Kurkirkhan, who was innocent with a weird explanation compared to everyone else, but he got lynched.
The innocent list other than that were all innocent and everone on it dying.. yeah... self-explanatory
Okay, I think considering my duel record, we can all agree that I can hold my own in a duel. Therefore, I propose my services to the town. Tell me who to challenge and I'll do as you wish. If I fall, especially easily, you guys know who to go after. I think the time has come where we have more suspects than rounds. Therefore, it's time to coordinate.
Yoyoma1910 20:54 05-08-2009
Vote:Tiberius of the Drake formerly known as Stephen Assen.
It is the strongest lead I have for now.
Yoyoma1910 20:58 05-08-2009
unvote:Tiberius
Actually, I should like to think about it more.
Tiberius is innocent.
Also, I think all those not ont he innocent list should duel eachother, as it is one of them.
Yoyoma1910 21:02 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by Beskar:
Tiberius is innocent.
Well then, who is guilty?
Kagemusha 21:07 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by Yoyoma1910:
You are a coward!
Challenge me!
Or are you simply some peasant with a stick?
No. I am a samurai and loyal servant of my Lord. Not a fool throwing challenges around.
Yoyoma1910 21:10 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by
Kagemusha:
No. I am a samurai and loyal servant of my Lord. Not a fool throwing challenges around.
Sure you are.
Vote: Kagemusha
Not Mafia-roles
Beskar
Stephen Assen aka Tiberius of the Drake
GeneralHankerchief
Possible Mafia-role
Ichigo
Rhyfelwyr
Kagemusha
Chimpyang
Yoyoma1910
woad&fangs
ajaxfetish
Dutch_guy
I would argue to vote for Ichigo.
Sasaki Kojiro 21:16 05-08-2009
hmm, well I support a beskar lynch on principle.
Ichigo always lurks, he could be mafia but there is no evidence.
Rhyfelwyr has acted strange. Good lynch, but his first game so no comparison.
Kage seems normal.
Chimpyang is quiet, couldn't say why without a reread. Decent suspct.
Yoyo doesn't seem different than normal. Neither do woad and fangs, ajax, and dutch_guy, but they all could have put up that appearance.
Who is left over after we cut out the people from the innocent list and everyone who made a challenge before today?
Also, what is the vote count?
If I had to pick three it would be rhyelwyr, chimp, and beskar.
atheotes 21:26 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief:
Okay, I think considering my duel record, we can all agree that I can hold my own in a duel. Therefore, I propose my services to the town. Tell me who to challenge and I'll do as you wish. If I fall, especially easily, you guys know who to go after. I think the time has come where we have more suspects than rounds. Therefore, it's time to coordinate.
You should probably challenge rhyf or beskar - hopefully one of them will be the lynch target and you can challenge the other...
rhyf has gone into lurking and has been more active in other parts of the forum...
Beskar - he is been hyper actively using BG's list as his defense - trying too much... i actually cant believe he still hasnt been lynched....
Originally Posted by Sasaki Kojiro:
hmm, well I support a beskar lynch on principle.
The principle I am still alive and you are not and you keep trying to get a bandwagon against me even though I am innocent?
Originally Posted by atheotes:
Beskar - he is been hyper actively using BG's list as his defense - trying too much... i actually cant believe he still hasnt been lynched....
It is more people keep on ignoring a pro-town detectives innocent list which says who is innocent and keep trying to lynch innocent people. Not my fault people keep to be told like a broken record.
AggonyDuck 21:51 05-08-2009
I think we can assume that Chimpiyang is innocent as he had a long absence between the 2nd of May and his last post.
Gregoshi 21:52 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by atheotes:
Beskar... i actually cant believe he still hasnt been lynched....
He has been a lynch target since day one, yet never rose to the top of the list. We're gonna be kicking ourselves if he turns out to be on the dark side.
I still don't know why innocent townies would be running silent now and thus casting suspicion upon them rather than a real target. Therefore, one begins to think the suspicions are well founded.
Chimpyang was suposedly afkb for a few days, posted he has returned after last night's action and is surprised that he is still alive, yet what is the difference? He has been silent anyway.
If not my prime recommendation of
ajaxfetish, then
Rhyfelwyr,
Ichigo or
Chimpyang appear to be good targets, in that order.
Gregoshi 22:04 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck:
I think we can assume that Chimpiyang is innocent as he had a long absence between the 2nd of May and his last post.
Yeah, but he's not posted anything in 20 hours since his "return". That's not helping the cause.
We are down to the end game and there is a surprising lack of interest in the game from too many of the players that are still alive. Or so it seems. Is this normal? What am I missing about strategy at this point of the game that would account for the silence?
Originally Posted by
Beskar:
Well, you convinced me to change my vote. 
Got any reasons for people not to vote for you? Any evidence or proof of your innocent? People have been lynched for less suspicion than you.
Edit: I am actually the last person on the innocent list? Looks like my prediction was correct then, I thought two of the people who were killed were not on it. Doh....
What? You don't believe me? Well I guess only you can say that and it be true.
I've been fairly active I think(60ish posts), which means at least to me I'm not a lurker like you claim. I don't really know what the rest of your "case" against me is though. I told you I was innocent but you didn't believe me
AggonyDuck 22:32 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by Gregoshi:
Yeah, but he's not posted anything in 20 hours since his "return". That's not helping the cause.
Well Chimpyang had a five day absence without logging on. Either it is an elaborate scheme or he is innocent. My bet is on the latter.
Yaropolk 22:36 05-08-2009
Originally Posted by AggonyDuck:
Well Chimpyang had a five day absence without logging on. Either it is an elaborate scheme or he is innocent. My bet is on the latter.
Why wasn't he wog'd?
Originally Posted by Gregoshi:
If not my prime recommendation of ajaxfetish, then Rhyfelwyr, Ichigo or Chimpyang appear to be good targets, in that order.
What did I ever do to you Gregoshi? Why does you want me deadzies?
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