Quote Originally Posted by drone View Post
The Norse will just raid mainland Europe for food if it comes down to it.

A few years back, I read that the UK could no longer feed itself due to population growth and reduction of farming capacity. Considering the situation in both world wars, I would assume that this would raise some concern, but apparently it didn't. The massive dependence on foreign oil here in the States bothers me a lot, reducing our consumption should be a top national security concern. Russia's control of fuel to much of Europe should be ringing alarms all over the continent. Probably too many people making money off the short term status quo.
You're one to talk, the last time we tried to secure russia's ressources for europe, you gave them money and tanks to stop us.
I mean, being energy independant is nice but apart from water energy that isn't available anywhere, a lot of this green energy stuff is not all that reliable IMO. Sun is nice but not when it's cloudy, in a nuclear winter it would be completely gone, tidal waves are nice but when the chinese blow up the moon they're gone...