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    You can change it back (should just be a checkbox somewhere).

    I miss my university broadband. I get lag every two minutes at home. Usually when fighting pyros.

    And the new unlock system is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good View Post
    And the new unlock system is stupid.
    Agreed. It's completely random and doesn't seem to be able to understand you've already earned items, and will thus give you duplicates. I got two items last night, both items I'd already earned. The only silver lining in the new system is that while it can't tell what you already have it won't give you the same thing twice.. so if it gives you the heavy's boxing gloves it (allegedly) wont try to give them to you a second time...

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    Valve said they are giving duplicates for "item trading" in the future, no idea what it means. But it's taking a lot of the fun out of getting achievements for me. Not only is my heart not into playing sniper or spy, but there's no way to specifically try and get the new unlocks even when I'm not those two classes, either.

    I don't think achievement servers (bad though I think they are) were bad enough to warrant this really arbitrary system that discourages planning or going for the neat things in the achievements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander the Pretty Good View Post
    Valve said they are giving duplicates for "item trading" in the future, no idea what it means. But it's taking a lot of the fun out of getting achievements for me. Not only is my heart not into playing sniper or spy, but there's no way to specifically try and get the new unlocks even when I'm not those two classes, either.

    I don't think achievement servers (bad though I think they are) were bad enough to warrant this really arbitrary system that discourages planning or going for the neat things in the achievements.
    To me, achievements were a neat idea- the unlocks never were. They just don't work in a game like TF. The classes are each supposed to have their own strengths and weaknesses while balancing out overall. Every new piece of kit they threw into the mix threatened to upset that delicate balance.

    New content is great, but I wish they had stuck with new maps and gameplay modes. Oh... and grenades woulda been nice too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    To me, achievements were a neat idea- the unlocks never were. They just don't work in a game like TF. The classes are each supposed to have their own strengths and weaknesses while balancing out overall. Every new piece of kit they threw into the mix threatened to upset that delicate balance.

    New content is great, but I wish they had stuck with new maps and gameplay modes. Oh... and grenades woulda been nice too.
    Grenades are a bit of a taboo subject for TF2, most of the time when you mention them in game you get people screaming for you to "go back to call of duty"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monk View Post
    Grenades are a bit of a taboo subject for TF2, most of the time when you mention them in game you get people screaming for you to "go back to call of duty"
    They worked well enough in TFC.
    ..which is the only reason I mention them. Classes having grenades really seemed to fill out the classes nicely and would probably remedy some of the more annoying crap that people get away with on TF2 now.

    Of course, to be effective, they'd have to be mappable to their own buttons- not requiring you to change weapons....(like in TFC)
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    Valve dislikes the grenades themselves. If you have ever played TFC, you surely must have seen the constant grenade spam that caused everyone to die constantly, without ever accomplishing anything.

    Besides, if they gave classes grenades, then the Demoman wouldn't have any purpose left to him.
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