Quote Originally Posted by Maion Maroneios View Post
Well, Greek scholars wrote that and considered it weird since they had the most beautiful women. And if this seems weird to you, it's from the times of the Celtic invasion of Greece. Wow, "homosexuals" find sleeping with men strange? Wow, Aristophanes called the Eromenoi "euryproktoi" (wide-arses)? How could that be? Ohhh yes, because they were all homosexuals and thought of homosexualism as weird, of course.

Also, welcome to the fora

Maion
Look all good maion, i dont mean to be rude, just to defend myself, my point was the defenition of civilized is a very delicate matter, also i belive generaly speaking, people dont give the right credit to celtic factions and their contributes in humanty history, In social matters mainly they were very progressive, for that era.
All i heard is All greeks this, all romans this, etc off course there is reasons to do that. And they were amazing civilizations, with their own time.
But there is alot of aspects, that dont have a good foundation. For instance they say the gauls were devided, and fight each other... of course thats true, manny tribes, with manny rivals, and alot of wars among each other. But greeks dont? the romans dont? lol just and example.

About homosexuals, well this was a transversal reality in all human societies, what changed was the way one can look at that.
The greeks were famous to be more tolerants, and valorize, passion,love,afection,lust etc.
The relations among persons, should be man or women,speacialy in higher classes, were more open minded, for that time. Do not mistake this with marriage, marriage values werent the same as today of course.
And off course not every greek thinked and lived all the sameway.