Best 'small Successor'?

[satalexton]

Philromaio arse-weasels.

Baktra, indeed is fun to play. Almost Equal to the Fatherland if it weren't the fact that it's not as easy to burn Barbaropolis due to the distance....(but i've accomplished it nonetheless)

[Azathoth]

The problem with Thorakitai Hoplitai is that they always use their swords. I've never seen them use spears - they just immediately switch weapons.

[Prussian to the Iron]

correct me if im wrong, but i believe they simply throw thier spears then charge; since they are not a phalanx unit, if their primar weapon is a spear, they will always use a spear unless throwing another weapon.

[Centurio Nixalsverdrus]

correct me if im wrong, but i believe they simply throw thier spears then charge; since they are not a phalanx unit, if their primar weapon is a spear, they will always use a spear unless throwing another weapon.

Glad you want to be corrected. You are wrong. Thorakitai Hoplitai don't throw javelins. They have an underhand spear and an AP sword. Just like the Basilikon Agema.

[Reality=Chaos]

correct me if im wrong, but i believe they simply throw thier spears then charge; since they are not a phalanx unit, if their primar weapon is a spear, they will always use a spear unless throwing another weapon.

I think you are thinking of the Thorakitai unit not the thorakitai hoplitai one

[Maion Maroneios]

Indeed, I believe PI confused the Thorakitai with the all-different Thorakitai Hoplitai. The former emulate Romaioi tactics by throwing heavy javelins and then charging with spears, while the latter are elite reformed hoplites of the Koinon Hellenon. The Thorakitai Hoplitai are like Iphikrateans, with a dory and kopis as primary and secondary weapons.

Oh, and I've seen the Thorakitai Hoplitai use spears. Iphikratides as well. They form up in guard mode and use their spears in the open when I fight them.

Maion

[Xurr]

I'd go with Baktria, it's a bit distant but is a nice challenge. The only real problem with it is you will be fighting Seleukeia the whole time.

Personally I'd forget about doing a Successor campaign, once you've done one they are all pretty much the same. For a challenge of a different sort, do a Getai campaign. You will be pleasantly surprised at the versatility of the units and develop new tactics to use them. I'm just finishing a Getai campaign and my new favorite unit is Thraikioi Peltastai. They are perhaps the most versatile infantry in the game. A close second are the Drapanai, an excellent phalanx killer. Heck I never really liked the idea of "disposable" infantry with little to no armor until I met the Drapanai.

[AqD]

Pontos if you want an insane challenge

Although it's not an actual diadochi faction, it can field similar armies.

Huh?!

Pontus is easy on VH/M! It's just a bit boring because I had no money to recruit anything but the cheapest phalangite unit and no choice but to fight the same bridge battles again and again and again to save my little kingdom from Seleucid invasions .......

[Subotan]

Baktria/Epeiros.

[Constantius III]

Now that I think about it. There was Thrace. It got dogpiled by all the other Successors though in hilarious fashion.

I'd be wary of labeling Lysimachos' kingdom as 'Thraikian'. When the center of his territory was there, he was a nobody and a weakling, and forced to share power (the arrangement is unclear) with Seuthes, a native Thraikian king; after Ipsos, when he catapulted into prominence (despite the engagement having largely been won by Seleukos' and Kassandros' troops), I believe he pulled far greater revenues and manpower from Asia Mikra.

[Prussian to the Iron]

Glad you want to be corrected. You are wrong. Thorakitai Hoplitai don't throw javelins. They have an underhand spear and an AP sword. Just like the Basilikon Agema.

im sorry, but you seem to be taking a rather arrogant and smart-ass tone here. perhaps thats just how you talk, but you could be nicer.

thanks to reality=chaos for being nice about it.

[DaciaJC]

im sorry, but you seem to be taking a rather arrogant and smart-ass tone here. perhaps thats just how you talk, but you could be nicer.

Best not to mention it. I imagine some people are still rather displeased after your remark to bovi...

Anyways, I would recommend Baktria, if only because they are in the best position to gain access to Indian units (those Guild Warriors, while not as tough as Traikioi Rhomphaiaphoroi in my eyes, are killers through-and-through).

[teh1337tim]

most enjoyable would be makedonia... i mean its fun... u can go either way (no sexual pun intended)
to iberia and destroy the barbaroi romani or to the east and claim what is rightfully yours as the true heir to makedon and so must be king of all makedonians :)
then you could go northeast and have a bosphorus kingdom?
endless possibilities

but to be sure, I'd think im torn on the next campaign as Baktria or Epirus as they have both unique rosters and new tactics other than anvil and hammer (immitation legions, horse archers etc)

Looking forward to that and EBII after i get my new comp XD

[Prussian to the Iron]

Best not to mention it. I imagine some people are still rather displeased after your remark to bovi...

you know what? i'm sick of people here treating me and other newer people like crap for no good reason. I mostly take a good attitude towards people on here, but i'm one of those people who believe that the way you speak is the way you are. so if someone is a total douche bag to me, then i know they are douche bags in real life, thus i treat them badly for doing whatever it is they do verbally to others.

/rant

sorry you had to read that; i needed to vent.

[miotas]

You need to relax mate, you're gonna blow a gasket. You asked to be corrected and he corrected you.

The way I read it was:

Glad you want to be corrected. *insert big cheesy grin here* You are wrong. Thorakitai Hoplitai don't throw javelins. They have an underhand spear and an AP sword. Just like the Basilikon Agema.

[Prussian to the Iron]

but compare it to the guy below him. he is more cordial and doesnt have a tone.

[Reality=Chaos]

Just let it slide prussian Iron.... I know how hard that can be (from experience on other fora) be tough... but in my experience it's a waste of YOUR valuable energy.

Personally I prefer to be nice unless someone is either particulary rude to me, or if I know them enough so they know it when I am joking

[Subotan]

Internets is srs business.

[Maion Maroneios]

Serious business my arse. Unless it isn't work, people who take IL as serious as RL should re-consider their approach to it.

Maion

[Reality=Chaos]

Serious business my arse. Unless it isn't work, people who take IL as serious as RL should re-consider their approach to it.

Maion

Quite a lot of people do take it too seriously though.... And those who don't nee to be aware of that. That is not to say they should become serious of course. But I find it rather easy to be at least a bit serious when someone who is touchy comes along. Saves you both a lot of time and energy

[Maion Maroneios]

Agreed. That's why one shouldn't take IL seriously. Unless he sees his IL as a place where he can be "someone" or just freely express himself in fear of RL. That, my friends, is a person with mental problems.

Maion

[satalexton]

and while everybody argues and bickers, The Romaioi Barbaroi Clobbers the lot.

[Fluvius Camillus]

Makedonia, Pontos or Baktria are all awesome examples of smaller sucessors with good potential.

Final OT:

Het verbaast mij ook hoeveel Nederlanders ik tegen kom het internet. Natuurlijk ben ik een echte, geboren en getogen in de Lage Landen, geen half.

~Fluvius

[Reality=Chaos]

Het verbaast mij ook hoeveel Nederlanders ik tegen kom het internet. Natuurlijk ben ik een echte, geboren en getogen in de Lage Landen, geen half.

~Fluvius[/QUOTE]


So am I... I get a bit nervous when natonal 'pride' or nationalism in general is mentioned

[Maion Maroneios]

Natuurlijk ben ik een echte, geboren en getogen in de Lage Landen, geen half.

For some reason, this part hurt a bit...

Maion

[Subotan]

Serious business my arse. Unless it isn't work, people who take IL as serious as RL should re-consider their approach to it.

Maion

...That was my point. I was being ironic. >.>

[Maion Maroneios]

Maion

[Reality=Chaos]

For some reason, this part hurt a bit...

Maion

Well that's what you get for denying your germanic heritage

[Maion Maroneios]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

*shoots himself*

Maion

[Reality=Chaos]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

*shoots himself*

Maion

Sorry I couldn't resist myself after what you said in the other thread